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Old 13-12-2005, 09:14 AM
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Default anyone ever done a zvh turbo on high compression

say u have std zetec pistons 2l ones and run small boost would that still work? whats the max psi u could run i est 6psi max
anyone tried this
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if its a really small crap turbo you can probably run a bar of boost safely but you wouldnt want to do it that way of course.

Impossible for anyone to really say without knowing more about what turbo it is etc, and what you are doing for management, if you are looking at something really basic like an ERL MF2 setup then i should think your estimate is pretty much all you are going to manage.
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Apologies, ignore above reply, thought you were talking about a zetec turbo not a ZVH
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Roosie.

Looking at your other post i take it your looking to build a ZVH with standard zetec pistons and compression and run a T34.

Thats a bit odd Big turbo, crap engine!

Don't skimp on the internals of your engine or you will be doing it again in two weeks!!
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zvhturbo, what CR does it end up with if you put a stnadard CVH head on a standard zetec bottom end?
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the pistons are actually toilet rolls, with clingfilm stretched over the hole. It's actually good clingfilm though - not the value stuff.
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Chip, i don't know
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Fair enough mate!

Do you know the chamber volumes of the zetec and cvh heads and the standard zetec CR, we could make a very good guestimate from that?
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no im not thinking this im just wondering
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bore size 85
comp height 35
capacity 1997
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rooise thats useless without the chamber volumes im afraid
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8.6 to 1 i think
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still need the chamber volumes im afraid mate, no use without it!
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fook knows lol anyone?
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std 2.0l is 10:1

fuck knows the volume tho

i got a 1.8 zetec was thinking about just nailing a turbo on and blowing the fukka up just to see what it can take

but its far too much effort and i aint got the time/cash to piss about with it.
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Standard CVH head on a standard 2.0 zetec bottom end will give approx 9:1.....

Hope this helps
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Originally Posted by Sketch
Standard CVH head on a standard 2.0 zetec bottom end will give approx 9:1.....

Hope this helps
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Well based on that, you are going to get away with a lot more than 6psi without det if its mapped properly Roosie.
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like rick said run any boost on it pistons will give way lol

might try a tester and see if it can take 12psi and keep upping it gradually lol
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depends on how well you manage the heat, bit of water injection would probably extend it a couple of psi.

set of vauxhall 86mm squeeze cast pistons seems a better idea though, ive seen 300bhp even on the N/A ones, and 400+ is easy on the turbo ones!
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Zetec head - 48cc.

CVH head - 57cc.

Zetec multi layer gasket - 0.9mm.

CVH gasket ??? looks like 1mm or maybe a bit more.

Zetec deck height 0.1mm above block face.

Going from memory here, obviously there could be 1 or 2 cc either way depending on your engine and how ford were doing things at that time.

As far as I can remember, using 2.0 standard pistons and a CVH hemi head will get you about 9:1. Skim 0.5mm and it will be 8.6:1 - I think thats correct...but it might not be so check yourself.



Edit: I've got some XE Mahles lying about if anyone is interested just make an offer. I can get them matched up to Zetec rods if required.
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skim .5mm off the pistons for 8.6 do you mean?

probably not the best way to do it if they are weak initially!

also skimming pistons tends to ruin squish
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
skim .5mm off the pistons for 8.6 do you mean?

probably not the best way to do it if they are weak initially!

also skimming pistons tends to ruin squish
zetec are flat afaik chip
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
Originally Posted by chip-3door
skim .5mm off the pistons for 8.6 do you mean?

probably not the best way to do it if they are weak initially!

also skimming pistons tends to ruin squish
zetec are flat afaik chip
Same is still true though of course to a lesser extent.

The chamber isnt a perfect circle (or is it on the hemi cvh head, im not familar witht them?) and thats for a reason, by lowering the outside edge of the piston its not good for squish
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there are flat!
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It would obviously be better to leave a squish band by only removing from the middle of the piston (just like Arias made my pistons), but on the cheap it's a viable option.

You could also get the CVH head machined out for a few CC more.



Probably the best for little money is the XE Mahle setup, as long as you know someone that can machine to the accuracy required for a good price.
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it would be interesting to see tho, someone just nail in a std 1.8/2.0l zetec and see what it would take before lift off lol

i got a complete 1.8 engine, so if anyone is willing to give a rst head/manifold and turbo - let the experimenting begin lol
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