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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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between a saphire cossie shell and a normal saphire shell?

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Old Nov 19, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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i think all 2wd are the same but not 100% someone knows the answer i think 4x4 shells are slighly different to a 2wd
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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cheers mate, anyone else help me out?

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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunc Maclean
cheers mate, anyone else help me out?

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the bulkhead is not the same on non abs sierra's
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:43 PM
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what are you planning?

don't forget also, that cossies had tinted glass, heated screen etc.

4x4 have a different panel in the floorpan, but all 4x4 are the same in that respect.

i've had differences in the bolt size on the front anti-roll-bar mounts before as well.

as martin said, non abs bulkheads are different.

sierra's with a/c also have a different bulkhead.
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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when i read the title i thought he meant the shells in the engine
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Old Nov 20, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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so, a normal 2wd saphire is pretty much the same as a 2wd cossie shell?

the reason i ask is just reshell purposes

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well it looks like as long as you get an abs model then yes
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the 4wd has extra clearence on the inner wings for the front drive shafts
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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ahh well its a 2wd i'd be needing.

so what are the actual differences in the bulkhead between a abs model and a none abs model?

and did all saff cossies have abs?

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p.s. sorry for all the questions lol
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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saph cossies also had strengthened pillars iirc
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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AS above plus Foam filled pillars IIRC and holes under the rear seat for the ABS wires
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all saph cossies did have abs, so it's better to get a donor that did have.

i have fitted abs to a non abs shell, but given the choice i would rather have the right shell.

your best bet, and i know this based on many reshells, is to either have a cossie shell (2wd or 4x4, doesn't really matter for a 2wd installation except for a length of 50mm box required to mount the gearbox x-member), or something like an xr or ghia model as these come with all the electrics already in the car for windows, mirrors, heated screen, abs etc, and with tinted glass.

good luck with the reshell.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Oh and if you're reshelling due to stacking your Saff, we want pics!!!
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Dunc Maclean
cheers mate, anyone else help me out?

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the bulkhead is not the same on non abs sierra's
What differences are there out of intrest, as I never noticed any when I converted my non abs lxi (the one in my sig btw)

Only thing I had to do to fit the ABS was drill 2 holes at the back for the wiring loom to go through under the seat
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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iirc, and it was about 5 years ago now that i put abs into an old 3 door 1.6 l shell, it needed a couple of extra holes for the pedal box, and maybe a bigger hole for the actuating rod? i think it should have a strengthening plate as well?
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Originally Posted by rstoughy
AS above plus Foam filled pillars IIRC and holes under the rear seat for the ABS wires
neither my 2wd or 4x4 shells (both genuine) had this.
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Old Nov 21, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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is the gearbox cradle mounts not different for the cossies to standard sierras?
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