Dunc Maclean

between a saphire cossie shell and a normal saphire shell?

Dunc

cossiecrew

i think all 2wd are the same but not 100% someone knows the answer i think 4x4 shells are slighly different to a 2wd

Dunc Maclean

cheers mate, anyone else help me out?

Dunc

Martin-Hadland

iTrader: (2)

the bulkhead is not the same on non abs sierra's

foreigneRS

what are you planning?

don't forget also, that cossies had tinted glass, heated screen etc.

4x4 have a different panel in the floorpan, but all 4x4 are the same in that respect.

i've had differences in the bolt size on the front anti-roll-bar mounts before as well.

as martin said, non abs bulkheads are different.

sierra's with a/c also have a different bulkhead.

mrviper

when i read the title i thought he meant the shells in the engine

Dunc Maclean

so, a normal 2wd saphire is pretty much the same as a 2wd cossie shell?

the reason i ask is just reshell purposes

Dunc

cossiecrew

well it looks like as long as you get an abs model then yes

Ginge !

the 4wd has extra clearence on the inner wings for the front drive shafts

Dunc Maclean

ahh well its a 2wd i'd be needing.

so what are the actual differences in the bulkhead between a abs model and a none abs model?

and did all saff cossies have abs?

Dunc

p.s. sorry for all the questions lol

Daveyboy

saph cossies also had strengthened pillars iirc

rstoughy

iTrader: (5)

AS above plus Foam filled pillars IIRC and holes under the rear seat for the ABS wires

foreigneRS

all saph cossies did have abs, so it's better to get a donor that did have.

i have fitted abs to a non abs shell, but given the choice i would rather have the right shell.

your best bet, and i know this based on many reshells, is to either have a cossie shell (2wd or 4x4, doesn't really matter for a 2wd installation except for a length of 50mm box required to mount the gearbox x-member), or something like an xr or ghia model as these come with all the electrics already in the car for windows, mirrors, heated screen, abs etc, and with tinted glass.

good luck with the reshell.

Stealth Bomber

Oh and if you're reshelling due to stacking your Saff, we want pics!!!

Ratty

iTrader: (1)

What differences are there out of intrest, as I never noticed any when I converted my non abs lxi (the one in my sig btw)

Only thing I had to do to fit the ABS was drill 2 holes at the back for the wiring loom to go through under the seat

foreigneRS

iirc, and it was about 5 years ago now that i put abs into an old 3 door 1.6 l shell, it needed a couple of extra holes for the pedal box, and maybe a bigger hole for the actuating rod? i think it should have a strengthening plate as well?

foreigneRS

neither my 2wd or 4x4 shells (both genuine) had this.

jonnyturbo

is the gearbox cradle mounts not different for the cossies to standard sierras?