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just been pulled up by the police....
i was pulled earlier today by the traffic police and they told me that my exhaust ( that i have changed) is illegall.. but its the only back box and ive been told to remove it and get it m.o.t'd and show them proof of removal!!
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one of them reved the engine up whilst the other one stood behind my car and said it doesnt sound like other escorts so its illegal.. so theyve givin me 2 tickets.. one to show up within 7 days with all my legal documentation and another sayin i need to get it re-m.o.t-ed and give them a copy of the m.o.t to proove the exhaust has been removed
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same shit happended to me years ago in my rst, but then again i was overtaking a long line of cars at the traffic lights on the wrong side of the road
just got a producer and that was it. the copper was moaning about it being illegal and too loud but after i mentioned i had the engineers report, mot and insurance he quiety shut the fook up
just got a producer and that was it. the copper was moaning about it being illegal and too loud but after i mentioned i had the engineers report, mot and insurance he quiety shut the fook up
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i told him it went thru an m.o.t with it ojn and he didnt beleive me.. its not loud nowere near as loud as standard cossie or scooby exhausts... and nowere near as luod as the local nova with his strap on exhaust on...
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go down to the ploice station, tell the desk sargent what happened n say you want to make a complaint.
the coppers are talking complete bollocks n trying to "do you" for something thats perfectly legal...
its harrasment plain n simple... kick up a fuss... a BIG fuss
if they give you any shit TELL THEM (politely) to find where in the road traffic act that it states exhausts must sound a certain way and if they cannot do this, and are unwilling to drop the charge with a FULL apology then you'll be going straight to the local papers...
PLEASE do this as if you dont the wanker coppers will keep getting away with it
the coppers are talking complete bollocks n trying to "do you" for something thats perfectly legal...
its harrasment plain n simple... kick up a fuss... a BIG fuss
if they give you any shit TELL THEM (politely) to find where in the road traffic act that it states exhausts must sound a certain way and if they cannot do this, and are unwilling to drop the charge with a FULL apology then you'll be going straight to the local papers...
PLEASE do this as if you dont the wanker coppers will keep getting away with it
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Originally Posted by Rs Dave
one of them reved the engine up whilst the other one stood behind my car and said it doesnt sound like other escorts so its illegal.. so theyve givin me 2 tickets.. one to show up within 7 days with all my legal documentation and another sayin i need to get it re-m.o.t-ed and give them a copy of the m.o.t to proove the exhaust has been removed
Were these real coppers ?? I wouldn't of let him rev my car...tosser
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Or just take it to the place where you had your MoT done and get them to sign off the VDR, take it back within 7 days and make sure you get photos, receipt for VDR check, receipt for producing it at cop shop - then if they pull you again for the same thing you have concrete evidence that they are:
(a) wasting police time
(b) harassing you
(c) all just tossers
Wouldn't suggest trying the third one in court though
(a) wasting police time
(b) harassing you
(c) all just tossers
Wouldn't suggest trying the third one in court though
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they were in police cars, uniforms and theyre were 2 of them... wot a bunch of twats.. then afterwards they try n be all nice with me
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Thought the only thing that is illigal is if it's above a certain noise level, and to do this they need to have certain kit to prove it, not just rev it!.... Should complain to the police that when the copper rev'd the engine he did it to hard and damaged the car! shove that Mr Plod!
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What a crock of shit!!
So they're MOT testers now, why don't they go find real fcuking criminals!
I had that once on a Saturday nite, pulled me in the missus car for what he reckons was having the Front fogs light on, so i walked round to the front and asked him where they were
As it didn't BLOODY HAVE ANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So they're MOT testers now, why don't they go find real fcuking criminals!
I had that once on a Saturday nite, pulled me in the missus car for what he reckons was having the Front fogs light on, so i walked round to the front and asked him where they were
As it didn't BLOODY HAVE ANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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there aint even a noise limit mate! you could legally drive around in a hotrod drag car if you like...
i'm sure they can do you for something not related to the road traffic act if sum1 complained (bit like if you have your music up too loud at home n neighbours complain) but there is no way that that exhaust is illegal, no fucking way
i'm sure they can do you for something not related to the road traffic act if sum1 complained (bit like if you have your music up too loud at home n neighbours complain) but there is no way that that exhaust is illegal, no fucking way
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They do it to bikers all the time mate - If the pipe doesn't have a Kitemark or CE stamp, they say it is illegal. They actually have the power to unbolt it and confiscate it at the roadside if they really wanted to.
Think you'll be on to a loser with this one myself. Best just do the MoT and put it down to another highway robbery by the government.
One that always cheers them up after they do you for something like that is to say "For a minute I thought you were pulling me up to tell me you caught the guys that burgled my house last year, but I can see you obviously have higher priorities...."
Think you'll be on to a loser with this one myself. Best just do the MoT and put it down to another highway robbery by the government.
One that always cheers them up after they do you for something like that is to say "For a minute I thought you were pulling me up to tell me you caught the guys that burgled my house last year, but I can see you obviously have higher priorities...."
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dead n gone, even that's not illegal as such...
if the car is new n comes with a car and you remoe the cat it is NOT illegal
providing the emissions are still within the legal limits for that car (which are VERY tight n VERY hard to pass with the cat removed) then the exhaust is perfectly legal still
if the car is new n comes with a car and you remoe the cat it is NOT illegal
providing the emissions are still within the legal limits for that car (which are VERY tight n VERY hard to pass with the cat removed) then the exhaust is perfectly legal still
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Ive been done in the court for having a too loud exhaust, no idea the laws tho, wasnt tested, jus the pigs say so, i couldve prob got off with it if fought it but couldnt be arsed
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pikie, did you read what i wrote
there is nothing in there relating to cars n exhausts, just states that any noise above xxx is dodgy
there is nothing in there relating to cars n exhausts, just states that any noise above xxx is dodgy
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This is the law that covers bikes - don't know if it's the same for cars....
"Silencers - All replacement silencers/exhausts must, for road use, be marked as follows: EU e mark or UNECE E mark e.g. e11 or E11 and an approval number e.g. 007 or BS AU 193/T2 or BS AU 193a:1990/T2 or BS AU 193a 1990/T3 or an international mark that is equivalent to BS or Pre 1985 MC Only. If marked NOT FOR ROAD USE it is not road-legal."
A silencer will only get a CE mark if it's within the legal sound limit, so loud sports pipes don't have the mark.
"Silencers - All replacement silencers/exhausts must, for road use, be marked as follows: EU e mark or UNECE E mark e.g. e11 or E11 and an approval number e.g. 007 or BS AU 193/T2 or BS AU 193a:1990/T2 or BS AU 193a 1990/T3 or an international mark that is equivalent to BS or Pre 1985 MC Only. If marked NOT FOR ROAD USE it is not road-legal."
A silencer will only get a CE mark if it's within the legal sound limit, so loud sports pipes don't have the mark.
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wankers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
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Originally Posted by Rs Dave
one of them reved the engine up whilst the other one stood behind my car and said it doesnt sound like other escorts so its illegal.. so theyve givin me 2 tickets.. one to show up within 7 days with all my legal documentation and another sayin i need to get it re-m.o.t-ed and give them a copy of the m.o.t to proove the exhaust has been removed
I'd sew for criminal damage if anything happened. See how they liked that.
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go down to the ploice station, tell the desk sargent what happened n say you want to make a complaint.
the coppers are talking complete bollocks n trying to "do you" for something thats perfectly legal...
its harrasment plain n simple... kick up a fuss... a BIG fuss
if they give you any shit TELL THEM (politely) to find where in the road traffic act that it states exhausts must sound a certain way and if they cannot do this, and are unwilling to drop the charge with a FULL apology then you'll be going straight to the local papers...
PLEASE do this as if you dont the wanker coppers will keep getting away with it
the coppers are talking complete bollocks n trying to "do you" for something thats perfectly legal...
its harrasment plain n simple... kick up a fuss... a BIG fuss
if they give you any shit TELL THEM (politely) to find where in the road traffic act that it states exhausts must sound a certain way and if they cannot do this, and are unwilling to drop the charge with a FULL apology then you'll be going straight to the local papers...
PLEASE do this as if you dont the wanker coppers will keep getting away with it
Well said matey
i would do this if it was my car to
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i went to the m.o.t centre and my exhaust was passed and he charged me nothing to sign the police document.. he said theyre speakin out of theyre arse its got silencers onit and a cat so it is legal... took the document to the nick and they signed me off on the exhaust and i said the exhaust hasnt been changed due to it is not illgeal... one of ur officers has quoted an incorrect fact and u should correct him before he makes this mistake again..... my mum rung up (the viscious one) and they cops that ticketed me are now in deep shit coz they had a trainee in the car aswell as themselves when they shouldnt have..... so theyre in the shit im in the right and get to keep my exhaust!!
i went to the m.o.t centre and my exhaust was passed and he charged me nothing to sign the police document.. he said theyre speakin out of theyre arse its got silencers onit and a cat so it is legal... took the document to the nick and they signed me off on the exhaust and i said the exhaust hasnt been changed due to it is not illgeal... one of ur officers has quoted an incorrect fact and u should correct him before he makes this mistake again..... my mum rung up (the viscious one) and they cops that ticketed me are now in deep shit coz they had a trainee in the car aswell as themselves when they shouldnt have..... so theyre in the shit im in the right and get to keep my exhaust!!
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As per the MOT Testers' Manual (information taken from here), reasons for failing an MOT on the "exhaust system" are:
1.
a. A part of the system missing or excessively deteriorated
b. an exhaust system mounting missing, or In such condition that it does not fully support the exhaust system.
Note: An alternative mounting device is acceptable providing the system is secure and the fixing is not likely to fail prematurely-
2.
a. A major leak of exhaust gases from any part of the system
Note: A minor exhaust leak from, for example, a connection joint or a pin hole, is not a Reason for Rejection
b. a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition
a. A part of the system missing or excessively deteriorated
b. an exhaust system mounting missing, or In such condition that it does not fully support the exhaust system.
Note: An alternative mounting device is acceptable providing the system is secure and the fixing is not likely to fail prematurely-
2.
a. A major leak of exhaust gases from any part of the system
Note: A minor exhaust leak from, for example, a connection joint or a pin hole, is not a Reason for Rejection
b. a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition
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Originally Posted by Rs Dave
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i went to the m.o.t centre and my exhaust was passed and he charged me nothing to sign the police document.. he said theyre speakin out of theyre arse its got silencers onit and a cat so it is legal... took the document to the nick and they signed me off on the exhaust and i said the exhaust hasnt been changed due to it is not illgeal... one of ur officers has quoted an incorrect fact and u should correct him before he makes this mistake again..... my mum rung up (the viscious one) and they cops that ticketed me are now in deep shit coz they had a trainee in the car aswell as themselves when they shouldnt have..... so theyre in the shit im in the right and get to keep my exhaust!!
i went to the m.o.t centre and my exhaust was passed and he charged me nothing to sign the police document.. he said theyre speakin out of theyre arse its got silencers onit and a cat so it is legal... took the document to the nick and they signed me off on the exhaust and i said the exhaust hasnt been changed due to it is not illgeal... one of ur officers has quoted an incorrect fact and u should correct him before he makes this mistake again..... my mum rung up (the viscious one) and they cops that ticketed me are now in deep shit coz they had a trainee in the car aswell as themselves when they shouldnt have..... so theyre in the shit im in the right and get to keep my exhaust!!
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if you aint declared it to the insurance they can do u for that, a lad me mate works with got 21 points in 1 sitting 6 for not declaring mods so be warned the wankers might sting u with that if u kick up a stink
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bet theyve got me name down now.. lol every time i drive thru chelmsford theyre gona pick up on me and pull me over just coz i dropped them in the shite.. lol
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spose so... lol another little trick my m8 told me is to ask them if theyre car has had a cumpolsary vehicle check before it left the station becaus theyre ment to have one every day and i think they have to issue u with a copy if demanded or requested!!
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b. a silencer in such condition, or of such a type, that the noise emitted from the vehicle is clearly unreasonably above the level expected from a similar vehicle with a silencer in average condition
I just love failing chavs with crap exhausts on thier 1000cc corsa's etc!! but then all cossies have 4 inch exhausts don't they?
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As them to provide you with the sound of what a legal escort should sound like!
Also ask them to provide proof of who actually decided what a legal escort should sound like too
Also ask them to provide proof of who actually decided what a legal escort should sound like too
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