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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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just been for a test drive.. all seems ok.. no leaks... brakes spot on but....


massive backfire when at about i guess 4000 rpm


any reason why? what would cause this? incase ive overlooked aything?

wont be plugs, leads or dizzy as its all new

been dyno mapped so not a timing issue..


its getting fuel


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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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is the fuel set at the right pressure.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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map sensor pluged in?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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phase sensor gap and crank sensor gap
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Dave i suspect you are hitting a limiter as you have a problem that the ECU doesnt like.....P8 with the lastest version software does this ..obviously all you sensors are working as your moniter will tell you that...is it lamda controlled if so make sure that working also check you are not overboosting..
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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fuel pressure is fine, just been set by harvey

map is plugged in

crank and phase should be ok.. had a look.. no probs there

Interesting re: the P8 Phil.. it is indeed like im hitting a limiter. What would be the cure though? and surely it would have done this on the dyno?

not running lambda control either
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Bad earth anywhere.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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nope dave, doubt this would cause this brick wall backfire though

solid earth to the chassis
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Well the ECU is goin into limp mode....

Turn the boost down to say 10psi and see if it still does it.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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i have the air injectors unplugged.. im not running any boost lol!
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Sounds like the giggle pins are fooked Dave

Did the stickers turn up?
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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pmsl... no paul, not yet mate
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Re-check the crank sensor gap Dave as they are easily knocked when fitting the engine! Should be around .8mm
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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...well then as Spadge check ALL gaps
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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vat a pain in ze ass!
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Dave just thought connect the air injectors the ECU might think it got a fault if they arnt connected!
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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naah, tried that phil



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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Will be CPS with those symptoms . If your Pectel monitor was hooked up, you'd know instantly .
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
i have the air injectors unplugged.. im not running any boost lol!
Unplugging them gives maximm boost BTW
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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well thats another prob then LOL

so phase sensor gapped wrong then? is the general concencus

stu??
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Originally Posted by DaveEscos
well thats another prob then LOL

so phase sensor gapped wrong then? is the general concencus

stu??
Nope the crank sensor not the phase sensor Dave!
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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sorry... typo!!
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 01:36 AM
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boiiiing... for more opinions
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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doesn't disconnecting the air to airs give unlimited boost!!!
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by DaveEscos
i have the air injectors unplugged.. im not running any boost lol!
Unplugging them gives maximum boost BTW
Get with the program Justin
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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read down to where Dave said he had the air2airs unplugged
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Dave have you looped the actuator and compressor housing together?
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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nope... reckon this is why? maybee an overboost limiter in the chip whilst we're running in?
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Dont think the chip jhas a running in map... but could be overboost limiter as per stus suggestion of max boost,

Just unscrew the fittings from Air to Air then screw them together, this is what I had
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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With the greatest of respect, maybe you should pay a pro to get her running properly Dave. Looking at your resto thread, youve got 10s of Ł000s on that setup now and you could EASILY have run 50+psi the way you disconnected those air injectors. Not to mention the 6000rpm cold starts with your ALS you mentioned elsewhere

Like i say, not a dig, maybe just time to let a pro finish what looks to be a properly decent specced escort.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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yeah, would make sense.. but we run about 28 psi.. i never got near that amount of boost on my 'test' drive
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
With the greatest of respect, maybe you should pay a pro to get her running properly Dave. Looking at your resto thread, youve got 10s of Ł000s on that setup now and you could EASILY have run 50+psi the way you disconnected those air injectors. Not to mention the 6000rpm cold starts with your ALS you mentioned elsewhere

Like i say, not a dig, maybe just time to let a pro finish what looks to be a properly decent specced escort.
stu.. point taken, but ive got this far.. im not as mechanically stupid as i make myself out to be on here i havent run over 10 psi let alone 50 and slight exageration on the rpm.. still shes nearly there... once ive nailed down this backfire... roll on the chore of running in!
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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I can tell your not totally Inept pal, just friendly advise, nothing more.
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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i know mate
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Take it to a pro even if you think you are capable of the work!

As Stu said you have spent X amount of money to get what you have and now risking it by guessing at this and that. IMO!

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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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just an update.. replumbed the actuator and compressor..

no backfire... 0.5 bar held


fast as fook


brink on the running in!
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Feel unusually quick at such low boost for some strange reason dont they lol... I reckon its because they havent been driven for so long and my van etc are just SLOW
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