Willem

Who has any experience with the DTA systems?
Does the launch control feature work nice on both systems?

What spec r u guys running with 2 litre turbo(16V or 8V) and how much did bhp did you win when fitting this management system?

Anonymous

I havent currently got my DTA installed in anything, but i have a small amount of knowledge about it.

If you get the P8Pro the launch and traction are great, programmable slip for triggering it and it uses both ignition retard and spark cut to ensure it gets power down to a manageable level for the conditions, like any (non fly by wire) traction control though, you can make its life easier by using roughly the right amount of throttle in the first place so it doesnt have to spark cut.

Willem

Hey Chip, what about the reliability of the system, i've read different stories about it.

wilky

iTrader: (1)

lot's of rover boy's run it and is reliable i'am getting it for my 220
[pro 8] a fellow near me mapp's them seem's a good system

Willem

Do you have a site of the Rover boys, maybe I can find some info there.
When you have the management system, maybe you could put your experiences down here

Anonymous

Like any ecu, reliability is mainly down to the way its installed and setup, the components themselves in the ECU dont tend to fail.

Danny B

Jamie Going (jamsport) will be running pro 8 on his escort and I'm also going to be running it on my cossie, I've never heard a bad thing about it.

Anonymous

The tuning dials are a fucking good idea too

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

What are you expecting from the launch control feature ?

Willem

Well, I'm building a 2.0 16V turbo and I'd like to tune it to about 300bhp so on front wheel drive it's a little overkill in first and second gear so the launch control would be nice to get it from the start line

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

People have tried it on several cars that I know of, and apart from 1 have all reverted back to manual getaways. Not because it dosn't work but more the fact that they prefer to use full power and more throttle control to get away as it reduces the chances of the engine bogging down.

Have you called Alan or Tony at DTA and discussed it with them ? Advice is free even if you dont own a system yet.

Willem

No, I haven't called yet, when I'm at the point of actually buying a management system I will call around a bit.

But now another thing, we've talked only about the p8pro, but how about the E48EXP?? Does anyone have this system, or does everybody spend a little more money and buy the p8pro??

NUTS RuS

iTrader: (35)

I know plenty people with the E48. Not just on road cars but on competition cars too.

And for info the P6 (in between the two) is due out very soon

Willem

Thnx for the info m8, I'm not in a hurry, I have to finance the parts for the engine itself first

Anonymous

By the time you pay someone else to map it etc, the cost is fairly high anyway, so the relatively small difference in cost between the two means most people i know have gone for the P8pro

Sketch

I went for the E48 as i didnt see the need for a lot of the extra features of the P8pro. OK if you've got lots of money or need all the features, me however have little money so went for the E48

Works perfectly from my 3 years experience with it

Willem

@ chip I was thinking the same thing, but the 48 has also got the possibility to map it yourself, or am I wrong??

@ Sketch your engine bay looks like its the same setup I'm looking for, could you tell me your specs and what output you managed to get from it? Is it possible to turn the launch control off with a switch or do you have to map it again?
As for having money, I'm still @ school so I don't have very much money, but in the coming 3 years I hope I can finance the whole project, it will be coming in an RST, not in the Orion in my sig

just random @ everybody
Here the features the p8pro has, and de 48 hasn't.

Lambda : 0 - 5 Volt (Wide band, shared Ana 3)
Cam : Single tooth wheel by Hall or VR
3 Spare analogue : Any 0 -5 Volt signal
ALS switch : Shared Lambda switch / Switch
Lambda switch
Traction on
Wet / dry

My technical english is not in such a good shape so I was wondering of a few things what it means and where they are used for.

The lambda, both system have one sensor, but the p8 has two, why two?
The thing with the Cam, what kind of sensor is that?
3 spare analogue, what's meant by that?
The crank sensor can be Hall or VR, what's VR?

Those 4 things aren't exactly clear to me.

So far for the inputs of the two systems, but the output isn't clear to me either.
On the DTA site it says the 48 has got 2 injector outputs, but how will it give signals to 4 injectors? If you look at it Binary you've got 4 different combinations, but that would mean you can't manage an engine with more than 4 cilinders

Lots of question for me here as I don't know a lot about managing an engine, a carburator is far more easy
Hopefully you guys can give me some answers so that I know how the system works

Anonymous

E48 or P8pro = makes no difference to who maps it.

All you need is a PC.


My point was that total system cost including mapping etc is so high for most people (who pay others to do the work) that the moderately small difference in price becomes an even smaller percentage.

Willem

As I'm trying to do everything myself(more fun) and teasing PF with my questions I will only have to buy the parts.
Spending unneccecary money on a p8 when an E48 can suit my needs would be a little shame of my money and thats why I started this topic.