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Old 26-07-2005, 12:37 PM
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Default Cosworth BLOCK No 4

why does this one 99% always be the one that melt's or knackers ?
just i had three dif rebuilds (on dif blocks) and all been problems making this fail
Old 26-07-2005, 12:53 PM
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Maybe you should get someone better to rebuild your engine.
Old 26-07-2005, 12:59 PM
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when my engine went is was no.2
Old 26-07-2005, 01:08 PM
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It's normally No. 2 or 3 (particularly No.3), as these get fed the most air out of all four cylinders due to the design of the plenum. So for you to have problems with No.4 on all occasions, suggests to me you have a fuel supply problem and that you should be checking No.4 injector out in particular.
Old 26-07-2005, 01:25 PM
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Normally the middle ones that fail, they work harder and get less cooling.

What failed specifically though when it went?

If its bearings, it could be an oil supply problem as often that will manifest itself first furthest from the pump
Old 26-07-2005, 03:25 PM
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All were built by dif pepole
Harvey Gibbs x2 wont be there again
in two dif cars less then 3k out of both
Old 26-07-2005, 03:28 PM
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Harvy gibbs comes very well recommended by a lot of people.
Old 26-07-2005, 03:39 PM
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Paul,
It doesn't matter WHO builds an engine, if it has a fuelling problem or is mapped incorrectly, God could have built the engine and that wouldn't save it .

It just seems really bizzare that you have had the problem on No.4 on all your engines, when in my experience (and most other's), it is the middle two ?
Old 26-07-2005, 03:45 PM
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Concur with that.

Without blaming someone, maybe you should look a little closer to home.

Harvey worked on my engine and it's been fine for the past 5 years!
Old 26-07-2005, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by RS500/104
All were built by dif pepole
Harvey Gibbs x2 wont be there again
in two dif cars less then 3k out of both


OMG!!!!! My engine pics: SCS build..........5 k miles and then this, on number 4 pot:


Old 26-07-2005, 03:51 PM
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Doug - who was it mapped by? Dyno'd? Off the shelf chip?
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Doug - who was it mapped by? Dyno'd? Off the shelf chip?
SCS engine dyno, mapped by Ahmed.
Old 26-07-2005, 04:15 PM
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But never live mapped once in the car . Some people .
Old 26-07-2005, 04:17 PM
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Top speed run Doug?
Old 26-07-2005, 04:19 PM
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Doug, that is NOT a build issue.

Absolutely categorically definately not.


So please dont try and implicate harvey for that one!


Looks more like an injector clip came off on an 8 injector setup or something along those lines?

(or some other reason for it going lean on that cylinder only)
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
But never live mapped once in the car . Some people .
Was a drive in /drive out job.........Ł 22 K package brand new 8 injector engine with new Quaife g/box/diffs.....upgraded suspension. I would have thought the car was road tested before collection Nobody said "thanks for the Ł 22K, now dont forget to get it live mapped"........I did not even know what live mapping was until about 2 months after it blew up - seriously
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Top speed run Doug?
No Rich, was doing about 130 - 140 racing Oli's standard EVO 6.5 (TME).
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Originally Posted by chip-3door
Doug, that is NOT a build issue.

Absolutely categorically definately not.


So please dont try and implicate harvey for that one!


Looks more like an injector clip came off on an 8 injector setup or something along those lines?

(or some other reason for it going lean on that cylinder only)
But don't let the facts get in the way of a good internet slagging .
Old 26-07-2005, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug Stirling
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
But never live mapped once in the car . Some people .
Was a drive in /drive out job.........Ł 22 K package brand new 8 injector engine with new Quaife g/box/diffs.....upgraded suspension. I would have thought the car was road tested before collection Nobody said "thanks for the Ł 22K, now dont forget to get it live mapped"........I did not even know what live mapping was until about 2 months after it blew up - seriously
That actually sounds very plausible ................ I take it back.
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
But never live mapped once in the car . Some people .
That is the reson my RS500 has done 100 miles (IN 11MONTHS )over the running miles because i want the live map and also simon did say he would sort out a map for the S8 ECU but have heard nothing

just not going to spend Ł3k on a enigne when i can get it mapped forŁ1k and be running safer

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Paul,
It doesn't matter WHO builds an engine, if it has a fuelling problem or is mapped incorrectly, God could have built the engine and that wouldn't save it .

It just seems really bizzare that you have had the problem on No.4 on all your engines, when in my experience (and most other's), it is the middle two ?
AND HARVEY BUILT AND SET UP BOTH
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by chip-3door
Doug, that is NOT a build issue.

Absolutely categorically definately not.


So please dont try and implicate harvey for that one!


Looks more like an injector clip came off on an 8 injector setup or something along those lines?

(or some other reason for it going lean on that cylinder only)
But don't let the facts get in the way of a good internet slagging .
I think when someone's reputation is on the line (like Harveys potentially here) its quite important for someone to actually present the facts to be honest!
Old 26-07-2005, 07:15 PM
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<<--- real tears. ...
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<----- ditto damo


Old 26-07-2005, 08:33 PM
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Doug

Get karl to live map your engine when Broms finshed with it

he wil also read your chip front of you


Ask him to show you the maps on his p.c

he can map very good tobe honest and you won't have to wait to long either
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