Fiecos Dan

i always thought it was meant to blow the fuel away from centre 2 chambers.

is this true?

as thinkin of doin it to mine, but no point if it wont help.

was thinkin 10-15mm spacer.

RANJ

ask madrod works fine on hisengine

Fiecos Dan

cheers ranj,

just pm rod.

anyone else tried this?

Ryan

think Stu is about to try this too.

GARETH T

i got one on my escort

DazC

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Stu is using a spacer on a modified 4x4 inlet plenum with modified elbow and 4 huge injectors, not an RS500 plenum. I think Fiesta Cossie (Is it Dan? ) is refering to the second set of injectors blowing fuel directly down the inlet runners on the RS500 inlet.

Tony Ryan

Dan ,
how did you get on at Lydden then , ?

Ryan

oh ok.

Well as Said Rods is proven so it obviously works on the RS500 inlet.

I would think the same princilpes would apply to the other inlets.

THEYGOTMETOO

LOL, Yes they are fine on RS500 inlets

DazC

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Just realised, I think Rod is on 4 big injectors too so doesn't have the 4 lower injectors running...

DazC

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Saying that, Dan (Monte) used to run a plenum spacer on his car IIRC....was that 8 injectors?

THEYGOTMETOO

Actually thats a good point, in the Performance Ford feature I definitely remeber the spec as being 4X1000cc injectors, although they are still fine on RS500 plenums with eight injectors running.

the strut brace

ferriday do em in 9mm iirc

Fiecos Dan

i'm runnin all 8 inj, and as yet not seen my set up used with a spacer.

Rod sed his works very well, but he's usin 4 large inj.

i might give it ago with mods to the 2nd bank of inj, to help to direct the right fuel to the right ports.

yeah went ok, cheers

only finished fittin the new turbo less than an hour b4 my 1st session, and was runnin 25 psi.

had understeer all the way ran chessens, and the hairpin, but car was flyin.

i was runnin -1/2 dee neg camber and 1mm toe out, on road legal trackday tyres. and it was alot worse than b4, with -3 dee neg, with nankang tyres.

did suffer with coolant temps on day, and then boiled my brake fluid on last session, but that might of been due to heat off the ex down pipe, due to a problem with heat shield.

got another 2 trackdays thier in the next month, so should be improvin each time.
the next one's a full day, so ill take my camber, and trackin stuff, so i can play duein sessions.

Anonymous

Would need a remap dan as there is more volume in the plenum, and you have to becareful of all the air going to number 3.

Fiecos Dan

cheers steve,

it will be remapped as soon as this is done, as now runnin a slightly bigger turbo,

and hasn't been mapped since this engine been in, just checked the fuelin's safe, and no det.

nomad

[quote="Genesis Engineering"]how the fu** would you know? you copy all that stuff from ferriday engineering. cheers nomad

nomad

i thought it was just our stuff that you blatantly copied yet after speaking to other companies it seems you RIPP OFF everyones ideas, oh WHY cant you come up with your own ideas ??? what have you invented ? anyone ever had a reciept off this geek ? i didnt get one , hmm.

THEYGOTMETOO

You so seriously need to go and see someone and get your head sorted out, you’re becoming obsessive ... just like a stalker I've already had to threaten you with complaining to your ISP about harassing emails haven't I?

Once again you publicly humiliate yourself and demonstrate exactly what an illiterate, retarded, no-nothing sad individual you really are. The last thread you tried this on ended up with a number of people saying you were being a prick.

Ferriday spacers are rectangular in design (similar to the first one below):



Our Spacers:


Which follow the contours of the plenum (if fact it's one of the selling points!) as they are based on a combination of an original Ford Motorcraft gasket and a Cossie plenum chamber (bought from Jano Oddkidd).

Although it's funny you mention Ferriday because copper gaskets are near the top of my new products list lol.

For those who don't know Martin from Nomad Performance has somewhat of a problem with me because I sell a competing product (gauge holders), unfortunately he can't deal with a bit of competition like a normal person so has to resort to childish insults over the internet

Ahh that one again. Didn't you try that approach when you first tried to stop me from selling gauge holders? Didn't work then and isn't going to work now Ask Stu @ MSD if he got a receipt from me when he bought spacers from me.


Martin: I'm not really in to arguing over the internet with people - that’s for big mouthed teenagers without any bollocks, If you've got a real problem with me (which you apparently do) come down, see me in person and sort it out, we'll see how big a mouth you've got then

Versus_Creations

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Well i wish you all the best mate

I know whats its like to have haters and people that are against you the best thing to do is carry on with what you know your good at, and let the results speak for themselfs.

IMO the spacers look well made and some of the other components you offer look great! Cant wait to have the need to use some of them

Regards and good luck
Jano

Tony Ryan

Understeer will be very inherent on any car without slicks im afraid .On a 4x4 car you can probably afford 2deg Neg camber front and rear , and a bit of toe-in as opposed to out . Well done tho , demnading little track isn't it !


On those plenum spacers , how do you get round where the fuel rail normally fits, wont that need to be spaced out as well ? Do they actually do anything or is it just another dyno improvement ?
regards
Tony

Mike Rainbird

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An an RS500 plenum on Harvey's engine dyno, he didn't notice ANY difference with a 10mm spacer compared to without. However, this was with a T4 turbo. Given this, I think it would be pointless on a car equipped with this type of turbo or smaller. With a larger turbo, it may be of benefit, but certainly not with a smaller one.

SPADGE

Tony
When i fitted one of those spacers i moved the fuel rail to the inside of the fixing lugs on the plenum and put longer bolts through from the outside so i could hold the rail on with nuts on the inside. I also cut the bottom of the bolt holes on the rail to make them into slots so that i could slide the rail down onto the bolts otherwise fitting the injectors would have been imposible!
Cheers Spadge...

Tony Ryan

Cheers for that , i did wonder how you got round it ! Did it make any noticeable difference do you think ? Ive never seen anyone use one before . Sadly the Carwise rail i use wouldn't lend itself to be cut in those areas maybe a rivnut or thread set and a longer bolt from behind may do it tho .
regards
Tony

Fiecos Dan

cheers boys.

thats hard to believe, as a rs500 plenum is the same as a std cossie one, just with extra inj bank and elbow. cos if others are seein 10bhp on 400bhp engine, a 500 bhp should see more.

the gap between the trumpets and plenum is the same, gap of 17 mm with gasket. ( just checked a std 2wd one and my rs500 one).

Mike did he mod the inj bank, to stop the fuel bein blown away? (as that could be why it didn't work)