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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Default How Do you read\analyse Compressor Maps

To find out characterics about the turbo.

Best flow rates.

Ideal BHP level if possible

etc etc
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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you plot your pressure ratio against the folw of the engine and see what efficiency band it drops into,,,, you can then work out how much extra heat is being put into your intercooler intake
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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you need to know the flow rate of the engine too get this use

L x rpm x VE x pr
--------------------- = CFM
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to convert from cfm too lb/min (which most compressor maps are in multiply by 0.07)

L = engine capacity in liters
rpm = i hope you know that one
VE + volumtric efficiency
PR pressure ratio


boost +atmospheric pressure
------------------------------------ = pressure ratio,
atmospheric pressure


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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:02 PM
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From memory. Pressure ratio on the y axis, air flow on the x axis. You then have the lines representing turbo rpm and the 'island' regions relating to efficiency. If you have an idea of the bhp required and boost you want to run you can start looking at Maps. You can then see for the pressure and air flow where the turbo is operating. If it operating far from the central island you will need to change the turbo spec. There will also be a surge line.

This could mean a completely different turbo or modifications to trim, exh housing ect.

This is how I understand it, and welcome any corrections.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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saving me typing it all.. as above really
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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I think between us Gareth we could write a book.

'Internet tuning for beginers, by beginers'. Guest editorial by Phil
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Eggleton
I think between us Gareth we could write a book.

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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here you go Ryan. If you re-read the above does it make sense???

the % figures are the efficiency.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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what is the pressure ratio scale in? P2C/P1C
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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the PR scale is a ratio

so work it out like i first showed

so if you was running 20 psi boost it would be

20+14.7
----------- = Pr = 2.36 pr
14.7
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I think between us Gareth we could write a book.



Got so many titles for that book it's hurting my head!
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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Its a ratio, therefore doesn't have a unit. It's as Gareth pointed out above. As long as the units are the same top and bottom of the equation, i.e psi or bar. Either way you will end up with the ratio. This is what is known as a dimensionless number

So at 2.00, the pressure coming out of the compressor is double that of what is going in.

i.e runnning 14psi will be

14psi boost + 14psi atmospheric pressure(roughly)
------------------------------------------------------------- = 2.00
14 psi atmospheric pressure

The variable is the boost. Stick different no's in and the ratio will change

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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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i know VE can be worked out by a fuction of HP/torque, rpm and volume,,, but my fooking head is blank,, i know ive done it before aswel,,,, dohhhhhhhhh
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Calculating VE

A brief explanation in simpler terms:

VE curve is what gives the shape of the torque curve; they match exactly, so peak VE is where you get peak torque.

If you have a closed airbox with an inlet duct, VE is easily measured. You measure the velocity of the air at the inlet and multiply that by the inlet area to get volume flow. You divide that by the calculated flow (volume x rpm) to get a percentage, which is VE.
Also:

How to read turbo flow maps
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