Rick

Can it be done if you dont have engine management?

Charlie Chalk

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dont think so

big_wig_074

yes it can, look up gatekeeper

DazC

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I was going to say it could be done if you put your mind to it.

Versus_Creations

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Why would you want to run ALS without management

Sticky.

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Yes take all the bolts out your inlet and give it a massive air leak like a certain car on Sunday afternoon

Rick

Because, my setup can't control Anti lag, and it's expensive to convert to management that does just for the sake of anti lag.

Versus_Creations

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for anyone that missed it

www.radley.plus.com/janoantilag.wmv

www.radley.plus.com/janoantilag2.wmv

Versus_Creations

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IMO dont do it then!!

Anonymous

ballin

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cars the nuts Jano

Charlie Chalk

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Very nice jano




But as said, if your not willing to pay out for the WHOLE of ALS, dont get it, could end up a disaster

Rick

I could make something, but wondered if there are any standalone kits out there.

Versus_Creations

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How can you make something?

The ECU needs to retard timming by 32 degree then bypass enough air through the throttle body and supply enough fuel to run + psi of boost

GARETH T

i started to design something years and years ago myself,,, never really left the paper but its more that possible

ballin

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not that hard Jano, could be done with a little string, a few carefully placed pieces of MDF and some careful thought.





no diss to you Rick I seem to remember you're an electronics guru (?) so no doubt you could

Versus_Creations

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Turbodisplay a member of this site and others is in the process of developing a system that can run edis and ALS. + other trick stuff will let peeps know how hat goes as and when

Charlie Chalk

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Also once the ALS is running/switched on the vaccum is cut out, so unless your running a pedal box or quick to switch off you'll have NO Brakes!

ALS is pointless for roads IMO but fun

GARETH T

thats sooo not true,,,, have you ever driven a car with als on?

Versus_Creations

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Freddy_mercury_magic, Have you ever drove a car with ALS? its not as bad as you think on road.

Versus_Creations

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big_wig_074

hence why youre gettin it rad!!!completely useless,just like running a 1.6

look up a website run by a company called gatekeeper fella,its got this stuff on there,is also a boost controller,runs an extra injector for the fuel,retards the spark and opens a bypass valve for the air,pretty straight forward.

Rick

i can think of at least 4 ways to retard the ignition. Interesting about the brakes though, rally cars not run servos at all? Still have brakes with no vacume, just bloody hard to press

Versus_Creations

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Sounds good, but dangerous

Charlie Chalk

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No i havent but only from what ive been told , im going to be running it on my track car, but im going the whole hog, maram shafted turbo, with head work on the exhaust side of things in the head, been told that unless you look after the ALS (not have it on at every minute possible ) you'll fuck the turbo etc

What the brakes like then jano ?

Versus_Creations

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Might aswell post these up as we are on the subject


www.radley.plus.com/antilag.MOV

www.radley.plus.com/antilag2.MOV

Charlie Chalk

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I said pointless for road But thats only what ive heard

As for the 1.6, at least it'll be like ford intended not an Inbread engine

Versus_Creations

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If you have fwd you will struggle with ALS on going round corners as it is hard to control, at silverstone i had to switch it off round the corners as i couldnt give part throttle due to the engine being on boost. On the straights its wicked as you have no loss in revs or boost when changing gear..

The braking is fine, i run ST170's on the front and 4x4 rears. With ALS on, when off throttle the engine will still drive as you are still passing air and fuel.

Sort of like left foot braking while trying to stop and still pressing the gas.
Hard to explain without having driven a car with ALS.

Anonymous

Tom Scarletts 1.6 S1 thats all i have to say

big_wig_074

is that hovis or mighty white?
so ford intended a nikasil linered steel bottom end with external wastegate,massive turbo,hugely ported top end,gearbox from a newer car and Alfa Romeo brakes? hmmmm.........

got that efi head for yoou here by the way mate.

Charlie Chalk

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CheeRS Jano, been told that bout corners, and is kinda obvious too


you have PM

big_wig_074

steve scarlets s1?
how about sunnys fiesta?

Charlie Chalk

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Its still a 1.6 and still a CVH as ford intended

And the brakes are brembo, use brembo not Alfa

Charlie Chalk

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Eh

big_wig_074

not a 1.6 or ALS IIRC just answering the quote from rob

where you gonna be on the 1st,2nd,3rd july mate?will be goin to london,want me to bring the head?can swap for brace and sort the zorst at same time?

Charlie Chalk

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im home i think, will ring later

Sticky.

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Jano i wasn't on about your car dude, i was on about Kims, we were coming home and every time she was slowing down her car was popping away, sounded cool, but it turned out there was only 2 bolts in the inlet


Your car sounsed awesome on Sunday, gonna download the vids now

zvhturbo

Jano,

What idle walve do you use for the ALS??
Do you use the cozy idle valve?

GARETH T

zvhturbo, you can see in one of his videos he has a cossie throttle body with a cossie ISCV, so i guess he uses that

RichardPON

I'm not a lover of anti-lag at all -should remain on the rally cars where it belongs and is needed.

The problem is, it's a performance enhancement, fine, but there are very few tracks in the UK that'll let you get away with the noise, and if you have it on a road car, then what for?

Pod - fine. Road - what kind of turbos are you people running that the lag is that excessive?