what spring rates does everyone with a 2wd cosworth on coilovers use?

For fast road use

 

anyone?

 

Most people use the WRONG ones , as that is what is supplied .

 

What are the right ones?

 

currently running om 5 dr hatch

fronts 9 inch long at 400 lbs
rears 10.5 inch long at 325 lbs

on avo coilovers

 

Very helpfull Mike now tell him what he should use and stop being a smartass

 

They sound way too heavy to me

 

car handles fine on sprint tack as set up for ity well

 

You use these on the road?

 

yes

rides not too bad either

 

I thought mine was a bit harsh with 300 fronts and 200 rears

 

That is considerably harder than on my 1400kg track-day Escort .

It depends on what dampers, spring length, car weight and usage they are as to what rates you run, so it's not that simple .

Howver, the person you bought them from "should" be able to advise you .

 

so wot do you run mike?

mines on std avo set up, 300 fronts, 200 rear. but well well to soft for track.

i'm thinkin more like 400-450 fronts, 225-275 rears on mine.

 

for sprint racing on tight tracks, i felt 250lbs on the rear was too soft

changed the springs at lunch time and gained nearly 3 seconds just by changing the rear springs

 

wot car are you usin Neil?

2wd, 4wd, saph?

also wot tyres? more sticky, the harder springs are needed.

 

mk2 5dr hatch running dohc turbo engine

toyo R888 front tyres and yoko 032R soft tyres

 

I run 325lb front and 171lb rears on LEDAs, which have MUCH higher damping rates than the AVOs though.

I found that anything above 200lb is WAY to hard for a road car on the back (even on my 1275kg Sapphire). Also 400lb springs on the front of this were fine on track, but caused understeer on the road.

 

one of the sprint competitors run on his 4x4 sapph 450lbs fronts and 350 lbs rear

 

i run 350 (i think ) front 150 rear

rears are lovely, fronts are a BIT harsh... but ive got a shagged damper on the front

that's gaz... 2wd saph, with (heavy) boat anchor engine...

 

so is this an ideal road set up?

 

With LEDAs on an Escort, yes.

 

what about a 3dr on avos?

 

275/175! waaaaay to soft I think. Lovely to drive on road but its a boat on the track. Changing them for much harder ones

 

350/185s on AVOs on my old saff (std length spring)

 

i think the chaps at GAZ told me theres had 350 fronts and 250 rears, i think ill just wait and see what it drives like with these as theres a lot of variation in what people say works best

 

I would try 350s on the front and 175s on the rear.

250s on the rear on a road car will result in lost fillings .

 

Thanks for the advice Mike mucho appritiation

 

what rating are AVO shocks?

Just out of curiousity

 

agree with mike... my 225 rears RUINED the car... hated driving it on anything other than a 100% flat surface! even the motorway was a pain as you were rattling so bad on the joins in the road!

 

1 out of 10 !

 

I run 450 on the front and 200 at the back, and mines fine on the road

 

Iv just taken the 350 springs off the front of my 4x4 saff as as they were far to soft for sprints and the car dived too much under braking

I just picked my car up from A1 rally sport last night where they have just fitted 450 springs to the front on billies from the drive home it does feel a very harsh drive

But i dont drive it on the road much so who cares

 

fpmsl

im with tony on this - but you prob will have no idea what we are on about


the setup for a road car is very dependant on so many things its untrue, what most people forget about is valveing. the spring rates can change so much with valving, and also piston diameter affects damping rates via valving, all this is even before we get to spring rates.

ive spent over 8 years experimenting with bilstein inverted tube units before i found a damping rate and spring rate i can use on tarmac and gravel ( not the same unit btw) but for me to tell you what rate and spring you would have to a, have the same weight of car, b, have the same unsprung weight as i have, c, have the same damper units i have, d, have the same conditions i have, e, drive like i do, do i need to go on ???


springs cost fook all , damping in very important and to change can mean a full set of dampers , speak to the manufacturer not the supplier tell them the spec and use - get them valved specific

 

p.s my car is not heavy on the road , you can bounce the car on pressure from body weight bumps and rebounds to a stop, and drives fookin mint - btw its a forrest setup

 

hi every one,
Can someone tell me how it will fell to drive with 100Lbs 14" coilover springs with a 450hp 2WD sapphire cozzy ? At this moment my car springs are very stiff and I feel each bump on the road and hate to drive. I wait your recommendations for a soft spring rate pls.
Thanks

 

i run 325 front and 175 back on Gaz coilovers.......and i think the back is too soft.....debating wether to change springs or just fuck the coilovers off and go back to "normal" suspension

 

What is your HP ?

 

I run 300lb 9" front, 200lb 12" rear, on avo, ride is well comfy, but upping the rear a touch soon, only to 225 mind.
tabetha

 

.....think i'll go for 225's aswell on the rear