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Old 05-01-2019, 03:05 PM
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Hi sorry for the long gap between posts! Happy new year to all, hope you are all in good spirit!

firstly I noticed my mk2 st is sitting half inch lower front passenger side. Wasn’t really a problem until I installed the wrc mud flaps, now it really stands out and will rub on the floor when going around a roundabout! Or turning right etc. I had been advised my Koni sports must be knackered so I order new set on Koni sports and HnR springs to suit and replace existing. Been out there all day in the cold guys and finally got it done! Lowered the car back to the floor to see it hasn’t done nothing to the height the car still sits uneven. I have measure the rod ends and height and distance between everything and it’s spot on both sides marry up! All the tyres are the same and , the same pressure air inside.


absolutly baffled and pissed as I just done a bit of spondoolah in new springs n shocks when the original now appeared to be fine.

any sujjestions guys or anyone have this problem?
car is Hpi clear and shows no signs of ever being in a wack
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Putting new dampers and springs on won't be money wasted, they might still have been on their way out. Are the top mounts ok? Have you checked that the chassis rails are the same height.

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Roll bar might be a good place to start too. If it's bent/broken/weak it'll let it sit lower too
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Originally Posted by jonfoc
Putting new dampers and springs on won't be money wasted, they might still have been on their way out. Are the top mounts ok? Have you checked that the chassis rails are the same height.

the top mounts are fine mate yeh! What are the chassis rails mate?
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Originally Posted by jonfoc
Roll bar might be a good place to start too. If it's bent/broken/weak it'll let it sit lower too

i didnt think about the roll bar to be fair mate, the roll bar is the one attached to the drop links from the bottom yeah, so if that is knackered it could cause it to be out! The car was sitting jacked up on the passenger side for 2 weeks a couple months ago while I was rebuilding the drive shaft! Could that have caused it to get bent! I’m sure it’s Whiteline antiroll bar
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Drop the roll bar off and check. If you jack the front up and drop both wheels off. Then disconnect the drop links you might see a difference from side to side. If it’s been left jacked up on one side for a while the uneven weight could have bent the ARB quite easily or damaged the bushes.

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Originally Posted by jonfoc
Drop the roll bar off and check. If you jack the front up and drop both wheels off. Then disconnect the drop links you might see a difference from side to side. If it’s been left jacked up on one side for a while the uneven weight could have bent the ARB quite easily or damaged the bushes.
I’ll check that tomorrow morning mate! I didn’t think of that at all to be fair. So when I remove the drop links n remove the weels the ARB will probably be lifted on one side.

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Check the mud flap height!!
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Have you actually driven the car yet to give the suspension a chance to settle?
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Originally Posted by boost monster
Check the mud flap height!!
there fixed to the inner arch nut, set the same height in both! I have measured the floor to the arch on a level ground and it’s half inch out
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Originally Posted by studabear
Have you actually driven the car yet to give the suspension a chance to settle?
yes mate I warmed her up and gave her a good spanking for 40 mins to allow for the settling process! Got the tape measure out and still out!
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My money is still on the roll bar.
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Originally Posted by jonfoc
My money is still on the roll bar.
I’ll jack her up in morning n c what’s what .
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Fiesta? Heard of this a few times on the ST180, usually that the driver's side is about a finger's width lower though.
Nobody ever seemed to be able to explain it or decide whether it caused any handling problems, although if yours has suddenly developed after jacking it up it might be something else.
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Originally Posted by _Jimmy_
Fiesta? Heard of this a few times on the ST180, usually that the driver's side is about a finger's width lower though.
Nobody ever seemed to be able to explain it or decide whether it caused any handling problems, although if yours has suddenly developed after jacking it up it might be something else.
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Chop some off the lower mud flap lol
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
Chop some off the lower mud flap lol
proper mechanic fix that...made me smile.

get a girlfriend significantly heavier than you and the car should level up nicely, maybe it was corner weighted for a fat bird before?
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Originally Posted by Caddyshack


proper mechanic fix that...made me smile.

get a girlfriend significantly heavier than you and the car should level up nicely, maybe it was corner weighted for a fat bird before?
married to a stunning size 8 with big tits mate 😋
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Originally Posted by RSBryden

married to a stunning size 8 with big tits mate 😋
maybe it’s the big tits throwing it out? Lol
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Originally Posted by RSBryden
married to a stunning size 8 with big tits mate 😋
Pics or it isnt true....
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Originally Posted by RichieST
Pics or it isnt true....
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Won’t let me open my photo library on phone
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St
Here she is. See how low the front is

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I think he meant the size 8 wife, not the car. Defo looks like the normal big tits problem ride height to me.

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The picture was up for an hour of me and the wife! Then I removed it. You never no what kind of weirdos are out there lol
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Quick update guys it’s been raining and haven’t been getting back from work till late! I’ll be getting under it hopefully this week!

if I disconnect the drop links from the bottom then lower it back down on the wheels! Will that show me if there is a problem with the arb?
Am I right in thinking the car will sit normal if the arb is damaged and is disconnected?
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Well it should make a difference yes.
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Yeah, I think that should do it.

Make sure you have a look at all of the bushes on all parts but see if the ARB looks odd at all.
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Ok guys I have jacked her up, disconnected the drop links and lowered her down! No change, still uneven, I also measure from the top of the inside strut to bottom of spring and it was identical.....
im out of ideas, I have a few pics I taken, see if u can spot anything I can’t guys, bear in mind I’m a double glazer not a mechanic!


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Maybe it's had a new wing at some point in its life?maybe a pattern part. My saph had a new wing years ago and took ages of looking thinking suspension was out untill I realised
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Maybe the front springs are a different height or one isn’t seated right

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WhTs a sling mate? The wing bolts looks like they never been removed mate! All panels line up correctly! I have spent almost a £1k trying to self diagnose this problem lol with all new parts etc
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Springs stupid phone lol
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All the springs are brand new direct from HnR, they are all bedded correct as they only fit one way into the shock, there is a stop end for the spring to sit in dude!
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Are you sure the struts are all the way home in the hubs, it could be that one has not dropped right in to place which would give a higher spring platform than other side.

if the bottom part where the strut drops in to (the nice shiny yellow part) is open at bottom can you feel up and see if both sides are as deep in as each other.

also check the rear as that could be pushing a corner down.

my wife had a 911 that was never 100% level, it turned out to have upgraded suspension on 3 corners and a standard spring on one corner...don’t know if it left the dealer new like that as it wasn’t old.
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Looking back in the pics I think one of the yellow struts could easily be deeper in the hole than the other side, (we can only see the one side) look at the heights of the metal bit where the brake line passes through.

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