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Old 25-08-2018 | 12:46 PM
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As title guys, i quite like the look of the smart fortwo early ish ones, but are they crap etc, anyone have experience of them...

Only want one due to inconsiderate arses with more than one car at houses down our road as we dont have any front gardens or driveways so if you move your car, its 50/50 if you can even park again when you come back

So are they ok
are they bad to work on
are they just shit
or should i not even bother
are bits expensive etc
This one is near me, but i have no idea about them
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMART-CAR...oAAOSwxNxbbWvF

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Old 25-08-2018 | 12:50 PM
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My brother had one and he loved it. I had a go in it and was surprised at how much space was in it. As I'm around 6'2" and weigh around 16 stone I expected to be pretty cramped, but there was plenty of room. Was also expecting it to be really slow, but again was surprised at how nippy it was.
No idea what they're like for parts though. I think my brothers was pretty reliable.
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Old 25-08-2018 | 03:39 PM
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My mate got one Ł400 he's a pannel beater and uses it to get to his unit and back loves it I had a go quiet a laugh to fly around town in shit for anything else same Nick 6ft+ felt like I was laying down lol

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Old 25-08-2018 | 03:48 PM
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From what I'm told, they're great around town, but shit for commuting on fast A roads or motorways. Tiny engine can't keep up and ends up eating itself prematurely.
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Old 25-08-2018 | 05:24 PM
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I have had three the earlier mk1 cars are crap. I have had the 451 Mk2 for 10years and has been great and is a much better car.

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Old 25-08-2018 | 06:06 PM
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Thanks guys, i dont do long distance or motorways etc, mark, what version is the one i posted on ebay ,? thanks

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Old 25-08-2018 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rik-rs
Thanks guys, i dont do long distance or motorways etc, mark, what version is the one i posted on facebook,? thanks
Mine is the 451 passion so it has a 1000cc turbo engine and the 5 speed gearbox.

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Would never of guessed it mark lol
Old 25-08-2018 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam-M
Would never of guessed it mark lol
lol it was my everyday car for about 5years then the wife took command of it😂and not allowed to sell it either

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Old 25-08-2018 | 10:07 PM
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I drove one for a number of years as the firm I previously worked for had one.

Very good runabouts and not slow as they have a fairly decent power/weight ratio. Another perk is as Clarkson once famously said, you can say you drive a turbocharged rear wheel drive Mercedes

Early ones had a problem with the keys losing partnership and I believe cracked exhaust manifolds are common. Another thing is there is the oil cannot be drained, so you have to pump it out.

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A friend of a friend had one and the engine fell out one day only a couple of weeks after a service....the dealer said that was quite common...

Figure that one out !
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I had a MK1 Brabus and that was better on Dual Carriage ways than it was around town IMO, they are a bit fussy to get off the line in stop start traffic with quite a throttle delay but once moving it was great. Was fast enough on A roads, did only 48mpg though and had to use super unleaded.

The Mk 2 I used was much better but the diesel was gutless.



This was my Brabus

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Old 28-08-2018 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
A friend of a friend had one and the engine fell out one day only a couple of weeks after a service....the dealer said that was quite common...

Figure that one out !
Old 28-08-2018 | 12:59 PM
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i `d rather get a bus pass than a smart
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Bet they don't stink of piss in switzerland
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Old 28-08-2018 | 07:22 PM
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I'm sure they are fine for nipping about in, but I certainly wouldn't like to crash one. With zero crumple zones, you are going to get injured, no matter what. Remember fifth gears crash test of one?
Old 29-08-2018 | 02:41 PM
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The 450 Fortwo kept dropping valves and the piston rings would gum up.
There are 6 spark plugs that need changing on them and the engine needs to be dropped to do this. Mercedes use some large bolts and drop the engine down.
As already said. Turbo and the manifolds are like chocolate.
Having said all that, I had 4 of them and the 700cc engine was marginally better, but not by much.
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Originally Posted by RichieST
I'm sure they are fine for nipping about in, but I certainly wouldn't like to crash one. With zero crumple zones, you are going to get injured, no matter what. Remember fifth gears crash test of one?
Yes, it was interesting that Smart advertised the car as not being damaged as much as the E class merc they crashed it in to but surely you need deformation of the car to stop your body bouncing around inside?
Old 29-08-2018 | 06:51 PM
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Yup, the front of the car folding up is what is absorbing energy, thus giving you protection. I would almost guarantee that in that test, the e class driver walked away, I doubt the smart car driver would have!
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I find it amazing that on a forum full of petrolheads these cars are getting praise! There awful bloody things, and everyone i know who’s driven one has the same opinion.
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Originally Posted by georgedawes
There are 6 spark plugs that need changing on them and the engine needs to be dropped to do this.
You can also remove the rear panel and crash bar to do the plugs.

I've not been far in one but tbh I wouldn't want to!

Have serviced a few and been on road test but that's about it, someone I know went to the Nurburgring in one

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Originally Posted by stevecfrst1
I find it amazing that on a forum full of petrolheads these cars are getting praise! There awful bloody things, and everyone i know who’s driven one has the same opinion.
I don’t have the same opinion and I owned one.
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Old 30-08-2018 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stevecfrst1
I find it amazing that on a forum full of petrolheads these cars are getting praise! There awful bloody things, and everyone i know who’s driven one has the same opinion.
having owned them for about 13years my description of them is a great crap car.
Dynamics are flawed drive is flawed but in the times now people wanted to drive tanks and can’t park them for shit. I wouldn’t have a Range Rover or that type of car if you gave it to me. Call me billy small balls rather than billy big balls in my tank😂

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Old 31-08-2018 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by smiley
Bet they don't stink of piss in switzerland
most of the time they are actually really nice and clean
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
having owned them for about 13years my description of them is a great crap car.
Dynamics are flawed drive is flawed but in the times now people wanted to drive tanks and can’t park them for shit. I wouldn’t have a Range Rover or that type of car if you gave it to me. Call me billy small balls rather than billy big balls in my tank😂

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Ha ha best reply I've read in ages
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Old 31-08-2018 | 05:46 PM
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Whoa what the heck did i start on here..

Ps i havent bought one, but still like em, only in black tho...
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