saph in dorset

Hi Guys,

I am getting a sapphire RS bare shell delivered later this week, that I will be doing a bare shell restoration to tidy it all up.

I am thinking of putting a non YB engine in it and using it as my daily car.

is it sacrilege to put a non YB engine in a sierra RS.

I know it wouldn't be worth as much, but im not to worried about that as I wouldn't plan on selling it.

Im currently thinking of a zetec turbo so would still be a 2l turbo engine, just not a cosworth YB.

any thoughts.

gcfcos

I've always wanted to build a good powerful turbo diesel. Some of the torque figures u can get from them is insane

Glenn_

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Its trying to find a cheap YB that will be the problem imo.

They used to go for 1500 quids now there double that.

xr2john

Zetec turbo would be the way to go money wise,like Glenn says ybs go for really strong Ł and for peace of mind it will have to be pulled apart and checked at the very least where as what you will spend building a zetec from scratch seems to be the more cost effective way to make the same sort of power. I've been looking into this for quite a while and after my weddings out the way in September I'm buying a brand new crate zetec from ford as a starting point and taking it from there. Won't be cheap but will be cheaper than a yb build from scratch I HOPE

massivewangers

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Fit something a bit odd instead. Volvo T5, Skyline RB25, Corvette LS, something like that.

Though a Zetec Turbo is probably the sensible option.

saph in dorset

That's one of the reasons I was thinking of something different.
Plus a more modern engine should be better and cheaper to maintain compared to a YB.

The zetec is getting on now but still a lot younger than a YB.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one thinking of doing it.

saph in dorset

What ever I was to fit it would have to be from a ford.

I would love to put the 3.7 v6 from the cheap American mustang.
They also use it in the ginetta g55. 300bhp standard and easy to get up to 380.

I was looking at putting on in my track saph but I think cost wise getting one from America would be the problem.

Also the 3.5 v6 ecoboost twin turbo would be cool but the direct injection would cause a few management problems.

Hellraiser

I think second hand YB would be best. I know lad with 480bhp zetec turbo owes him bout 12grand for engine . I'd go 2.0 ohc with twin 45s n lairy cam. Doesn't need management then and pennies to build n maintain n normal sierra 5speed box. I had this in my mk2 rs2000 n it flew

Cosnada

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Or a good old pinto. Injected one and could even bolt a snail on it.

xr2wishy

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He's spent a bit too much there...dry sump, rods pistons, valve springs, manifolds, turbo and a few other parts...

Glenn_

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A big sweaty V8 would get my vote.

stevos

How about getting hold of a mk1 focus Rs engine. Should be a straight forward install.

155lee

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Bmw diesel ftw.
To use a yb and make it back to being a saph again would cost more than just buying a saph outright.

Turbo Zetec

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jaguar AJV8. Has a ford part number on it! 4.0 has 300bhp with all the cats etc on it, the supercharged one is 400bhp. Can be had for under a grand!

Cosnada

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Phwar!

Cragrat

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Was gonna say LS1 or LS3 but then read the above

+1

alo

Might as well put a cosy head on it too

Yb or v8
Not a rover something yank so you can supercharge etc
Yank crate engines are pennies

mk22door

What about something like this?

costina

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Good strong engine as found in a scorpio granada 2.3 16 valve.

mk22door

This one is a a DOHC 8v Sierra block with ugly Scorpio 16v head = same ish but better than mk5 Escort RS2000 engine.

Turbo Zetec

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not better really, the cams are a bit tamer in the scorpio and the 8v bottom end is the same as the 16v one only differences between scorpio engine and rs2k engine design are to do with them being mounted different ways round. the heads are interchageable, you can also put the 2.0 head on the 2.3 to get higher compression.

L33_srd

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Mark V8

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BOA V6 for the least amount of hassle.

If you don't mind a bit of fabrication, do what Ford did in South Africa and fit a 5.0 V8

Adam-M

I've had this same dilemma, I've got a cossie and cossie rep with a 2.0 dohc (great smooth engine but slow) and I was thinking what engine could I to add more power. Thinking zetec turbo but to do right would cost the same as YB, Scorpio 2.3 bottom end and rs2000 head (couldn't find any parts forsale so could imagine it being exspensive and still rather slow).

So in the end I decided on fitting a yb as I love the engine and know a little about it aswell. I'm collecting engine parts with spare money so far I've got a 4x4 head and I'll use the ecu and wring loom and turbo off my cossie when I upgrade them on that. Then I know I've got a good reliable tuneable platform.

Glenn_

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The Ybs are a good engine. I dont know why they sometimes get slagged off for.