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Old 22-11-2013, 08:26 PM
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not a massive job but the Peugeot 308 1.6d air filter what a wanky job
Old 22-11-2013, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Or you could have just turned the key in the driver's door lock twice. That makes it pop open!
When it was working properly....er....that's how it works. It didnt matter though if you turned the key 500 times it just wouldnt pop open. The solenoid was buggered meaning it had to be removed (before it would open) and replaced.
Old 27-11-2013, 10:01 PM
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I have just done a leaking sunroof on a mk2 Clio, replaced the main seal under the surround and the inner seal too.

Had to remove the headlining to dry it out..it's glued in.....ball ache to remove, 2 big U shapes of sealer sticking it to the roof from the sunroof to the back of the roof.

Worst part is the grab handles, they have a tx20 screw in but you have to pull like fook,lever the clips out of the body, ridiculous!! Even worse to re-fit!

Couldn't believe such a simple part could sooo much of a twat!
Old 27-11-2013, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by pedroS2RST
Changing the battery on a diesel B5 passat is also ridiculously overly complicated.

The batteries are so big to do it properly it's wipers off and plastic scuttle off. The scuttle has to be prized off slowly or is easily snapped if you're not careful.

Also changing the main beam bulb means removing the headlights unless you have alien like fingers!
Battery, unclip the loom on the bulkhead, loads of room then, no need to touch the wipers.
Old 28-11-2013, 04:33 AM
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Arnt french cars lovely to work on.
Old 28-11-2013, 09:32 AM
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For those who prefer the old skool - what about this little hose on a Mini:

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Most people used to tell you it was a head off job...
Old 28-11-2013, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by St3V3_C
For those who prefer the old skool - what about this little hose on a Mini:

Most people used to tell you it was a head off job...
But you could buy the squashable repair version or remove the water pump.

Personally, I used the squishable hose

And that pic, that is a 'Goldseal engine' is it not?

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Old 28-11-2013, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Colin_P

Battery, unclip the loom on the bulkhead, loads of room then, no need to touch the wipers.
Mk4 mondeo battery replacement, remove half of cover, remove live terminal, remove air filter box and associated pipe work, slide battery forward, remove earth terminal then remove battery!
Old 28-11-2013, 02:41 PM
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Changing a Fiesta VSS + removing pin after being stuck in the gearbox for 15yrs!
Old 28-11-2013, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Smit
Changing a Fiesta VSS + removing pin after being stuck in the gearbox for 15yrs!
True.

Same on IB5 boxed Foci
Old 28-11-2013, 03:43 PM
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Changing batts on modern bmws I'm told requires it to be "recoded " to car ....seriously ???
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Originally Posted by Colin_P
But you could buy the squashable repair version or remove the water pump.

Personally, I used the squishable hose

And that pic, that is a 'Goldseal engine' is it not?
Hence used to tell you. Even water pump off was a PITA if I remember with rad out etc.

That pic is a google pic, no idea what it is.
Old 28-11-2013, 05:22 PM
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Even simple jobs are becomming a pain for us normal people , I did a x5.headlight bulb for my dad and it was like changing a bulb through a peep hole!
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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
Changing batts on modern bmws I'm told requires it to be "recoded " to car ....seriously ???
Officially yes. In practice, wonder how many bother?

The 'coding' registers the mileage when battery changed,type of battery (AGM/lead acid etc) and the CCA/Ah so the car charges it properly
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Originally Posted by RichieST
Mk4 mondeo battery replacement, remove half of cover, remove live terminal, remove air filter box and associated pipe work, slide battery forward, remove earth terminal then remove battery!
Great fun eh!
Old 28-11-2013, 06:18 PM
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Hah good thread, makes me think.

Last winter I bought my daily drive for few hundreds. Next day water pump and started had to be replaced. It was no biggie at all.

But now to think that same scenario 20 years to the future. I'd probably end up scrapping the car.
Old 28-11-2013, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by botters
that is because they have french engines! apart from the ka that goes one step worse and incorperates the dogshit fiat punto engine!!!
What's wrong with the 1.2 8v FIRE? I always found them a piece of piss to work on and they go on forever. The only real weak point was the headgasket, but even that got better over the years and I can't recall the last time I did one on a Grande Punto/500/Panda.

Originally Posted by Glenn_
I did a few Fiat stilo front central locking motors.They used to jam and I used to take the front seat out(on the side the motor was nackered) and take the door card off normaly this would get damaged. Then all the bolts had to come out of the inner panel(like a golf) then take the small torx screws out of the central door locking module then rip/snap the cover off. Then there was a tiny rod sticking out.Flick that up and the door opens.
Christ- that takes me back! What a fun job they were. It was quite satisfying to smash the lock to pieces once you got in there, lol

You could tell the Stilo was going to be crap when it had 5 recalls before it even launched in the UK.
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Originally Posted by Smit
Changing a Fiesta VSS + removing pin after being stuck in the gearbox for 15yrs!
Done loads of these on tranny connect g boxes. I just smash fook out of the gear box casing cause normaly we are changing them cause the box is fooked.
Old 29-11-2013, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
Changing batts on modern bmws I'm told requires it to be "recoded " to car ....seriously ???
My mate with a bm said when his battery goes flat he has to recode the elecy windows and the horn to the car. Fpmsl.
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Originally Posted by D4nny8oy
What's wrong with the 1.2 8v FIRE? I always found them a piece of piss to work on and they go on forever. The only real weak point was the headgasket, but even that got better over the years and I can't recall the last time I did one on a Grande Punto/500/Panda.



Christ- that takes me back! What a fun job they were. It was quite satisfying to smash the lock to pieces once you got in there, lol

You could tell the Stilo was going to be crap when it had 5 recalls before it even launched in the UK.
Or the stilos were fookin brill. The 3dr versions used to always bring the air bag light on when the front seats were pulled forward for passengers to go in.

Where I worked we had a Stilo in for faulty speedo. We replaced the clocks but had to work out mph into kph then put it into the exmainer diagnostic tester. So when the clocks were fitted it would come back up on the clocks in mph. We did this and It ended up wrong so our gaffer said put the odometer at 999999 roadtest it to get the odometer to read 0000000 again. We did this and the clocks fooked up. We had to get anther new set of clocks. Fpmsl they were the good days. I could tell you all sorts of stories for when I worked at Reg Vardys on Fiat and Alfas.
Old 29-11-2013, 08:20 AM
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[QUOTE=D4nny8oy;6380054]What's wrong with the 1.2 8v FIRE? I always found them a piece of piss to work on and they go on forever. The only real weak point was the headgasket, but even that got better over the years and I can't recall the last time I did one on a Grande Punto/500/Panda.
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Genuinely one of the best little engines out.

Jordan
Old 29-11-2013, 09:20 AM
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removing the pedal box out of a mk2 Ibiza (common problem with them breaking at the clutch pedal) without removing the steering column. had to remove the drivers seat so I cud lie sort of comfortably upside down to put the pedals back in
Old 29-11-2013, 10:35 AM
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Citroen C4 1.6hdi. The airfilter is at the back, much like the 207/mini etc whatever, on the c4 you cant access it as the daft enormous dash is in the way!
Old 29-11-2013, 11:25 AM
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[QUOTE=T.E.D. Jordan;6380277]
Originally Posted by D4nny8oy
What's wrong with the 1.2 8v FIRE? I always found them a piece of piss to work on and they go on forever. The only real weak point was the headgasket, but even that got better over the years and I can't recall the last time I did one on a Grande Punto/500/Panda.
QUOTE]

Genuinely one of the best little engines out.

Jordan
They werent a bad engine apart from like you say head gasket faults. The cam cover gaskets used to leak too and on the mk2 puntos the engine ecu used to go faulty causing them to misfire. The ecu was bolted to the throttle body.
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Changing rear shockers on Fiat bravos and bravas. The top bolt went through the chassis leg so if you dropped it the bolt fell in the chassis leg lol.
Old 01-12-2013, 10:57 PM
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The mechanical ABS on 90's Escorts always makes me chuckle. Timing belts off the driveshafts
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Or yeh lol. I wonder how many escorts still have this system working on there cars.
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Wanky things, all they did was make it twice as long to get the 'box out..which was a regular occurrence on my old S2 RST in the 90s..
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
My mate with a bm said when his battery goes flat he has to recode the elecy windows to the car. Fpmsl.
You have to that in a Focus too to get the remote opening a closure to work
Old 02-12-2013, 07:37 PM
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Same as mondeo. Only got to hold the switch to closed position for a couple of seconds 3 times for each window.
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You do need to do that on 'pretty much' all electric windows that have 'one-touch' operation.
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Im sure he said he has to put a diagnostic computer on it for the windows.


A friend of mine who works at a Rover/BMW and Mini specialist and he said he had a 1 series in the other do with a xenon headlight bulb out. He said he changed the bulb and it still didnt work. He said when the bulb pops it pops the head light module. He said it cost 70 quid for a bulb and nearly 200 quid for a module. So just short of 300 quid to change a bulb.
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Think I mentioned it earlier on this thread but have had a 2013 Focus at work for the last 3 weeks, basically body control module failure, so car was deadlocked, only able to unlock drivers door, non-start, loads of electrical systems not working.

Body control module (BCMii) is under the glovebox clipped in a bracket on the bulkhead so had to check all the feeds and grounds to it with guidance from Ford technical to prove the fault. (Hanging upside down across the seats as not able to open passenger door.) So, order module, it comes with a later part number (Car was only built in March!)

Different pin locations, different fuse locations. Only one module able to be ordered. Put in parts request to make sure it's the right one, a week later they send another module from Germany, same again Technical don't know or are not sure if it's right or wrong. They tell me to fit it anyway (I didn't want to in case pins were live where they shouldn't be etc) I fit it and use the program on IDS I'm used to using to install modules.

No ignition, so then Technical tell me I have to bridge an ignition relay during the install, and use AS built data from Ford to set the module back to factory settings. It says no-where on the information I have about doing this.

Then they ring back and tell me that doesn't work on the new Focus and they're sending the field engineer to show me how to install it Thursday field engineer and someone from the technical hotline visit the garage to show me , and produce a guide for technical how to install the modules, after a lot of messing around with a new software Ford are now using to install modules and make changes, we get the BCMii installed, BUT car won't start as we need 2 PATS keys learned to the BCMii to allow it to start (again, no where it tells you this either!)

So they left me to get the spare key from customer and with a few tips written down how to code keys using this system I had to sort it out yesterday. Again lots of faffing around trying to get this new software to work on our IDS machine, I manged to get the keys loaded, module initialized and now car is sorted. But what a ball ache!

We've used the same method of coding keys now since probably late 90s, but this new system is web-based and has to download a new app each time. It's slow, unreliable and even though it said that key coding was unsuccessful, I counted keys and it had learnt them, and car started.

They call it progress??

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Originally Posted by Maxwell
When my passat w8 stripped its flywheel and clutch, the whole engine etc had to come out!!

The idea of taking the front end off a car to do a timing belt or the likes of - ie. 5 cylinder audi coupes/80s/90s/100s, passats etc - is just plain fucking stupid!!

Seems to be mainly vag stuff is the problem here. Though mk2 focus' require the headlights and tail lights to be removed to change bulbs. Another bright idea. Stuff use to be designed to have access for maintainence!
i garuantee i can do a cambelt on a 4 pot B5,6 or 7 A4 in an hour,

much prefer them to FWD shyte.

Citroen C1 desiesel,

Clutch, looks titgh, meh give it a go.

everything bar 1 bolt is piece of piss, to get to the 1 bolt,
front end off.......
Downpipe/cat OFF
Turbo and manifold OFF

remove 1 bolt

Fuckin worst idea EVER!!

put a stud in the cunt or anything, but a fucking BOLT?!
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Lol at the job on that focus. What a nightmare.

Peugeot Bipper vans at work (could be the same engine and box as the Citreon C1) There is a bell housing bolt but like said above to get to it you have to remove the frontpipe/cat.
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Most cabin filters are twats to change mk4 mondeo are fuse box out job!
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Piece of piss to change on a ford puma and mk4/5 fiesta.
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Originally Posted by Glenn_
Piece of piss to change on a ford puma and mk4/5 fiesta.
Can't understand it how some cars are sooo simple and some are pigs maybe it's me having long arms that I struggle lol
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Its just there stupid fookin designs lol.
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02 reg onwards Toyota Avensis front head lights. The headlight bulbs get hot and cause the head light bulb housing to come loose inside the head light the the bulb rattles about and burns the inside of the head light. I changed loads of headlights when I used to work on them.


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