Ben26

Guy i know took his car down to a local subaru "specialist" for a sort out. Vacuum leaks for fun. Running a bit shit he said. The lad had been claiming all sorts of power from 350-370bhp thinks its all forged inside with bigger turbo and i can see is a front mount , etc etc. We all know these lads . Anyway he text me today sayin he got his car back. I took ages to get the power out of him


He said they had to turn the power down to 290bhp !! Wtf ?

They said to get more power he would have to go aftermarket ecu as the standard one is limited ! Very vague i know

How true is this. Sounds like bull to me, but then i know nothing really of scoobys. Btw its a p reg wrx sti import he tells me.

Whats your thoughts ??

SBT83

BLU is a big Scoob fan. He should be able to shed light on the ins and outs

Cossie.jack

Don't make sence? Yea if he wants more power put different mods ecu ect on but why turn it down as it is now?

Ben26

Yea i know mate. Why would they turn it down. They said it needed a new MAF sensor at Ł550 then said that wasnt the problem. The lad is just pub talk. But i cant imagine a sti ecu being limited to 290 ???

The tuner he took it to has big power scoobys that run 10's !

rs clint

sounds a bit of a billy bulshitter

Cossie.jack

Dunno what it be limited to tbh but seems abit low. I remember when my dad had 350 ish bhp In His Evo he had a new ecu apexi.
Anyway it just dont make sence if it was running 370 bhp okay then why bother Turing it down now?

SBT83

From what I can work out is,

1) he's a bullshitting twat?
2) they turned down the boost as it was on its limits?
3) he doesn't know his elbow from his arse
4) he's a bullshitting twat?

But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt

Ben26

PMSL .

The lads actually alright tbh. Well he recons it was 350-70 but had no evidence of this at all.

Im askin him loads of questions but he is very vauge when he replys.

Paul_RS

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Race him for pink slips.

SBT83

He probably doesn't understand it himself? But you'd have to be a rather special boy to not understand where 80 bhp went

taycoss

As far as know that ecu cant be mapped without chip or daughter board.
Car would be round 280 standard

jamie's

pub talk, 350-370 bhp scooby,
more like it was pretty standard with front mount and bleed valve
turner prob turned the boost down cause it was ready to melt
guy sounds like a believer in the "crank the boost for extra 100bhp" kinda guy
its running twice the factory boost so must be twice the factory power
prob felt fast so just believed it must be that power, down to earth with a bang now
sti should be able to go more than that totaly standard so prob isn't a real sti(like most classic sti's advertised)
either he's fool of shit, or somebody else has been and he's been silly enough to believe it

rs old skool

hes talking shit. unless he paid big money for a proper scooby with different ecu etc as its hard getting power out of them on that management.or just ring the tuner and ask lol

chink

i had a sti import version 5 mine had a ecutek ecu and couldnt be mapped unless i had the licence number, to get a new licence number was around 150 pound but mine was 280 standard

Fudgey

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As said the classic impreza needs a daughter board to remap, do you know what turbo its on?

mine a 2001 bugeye at 240hp, and if i do a full decat and remap on the TD04 ill see about 270-280bhp and 320lbft, but my ecu can be remapped as it is.

i take it he went to engine tuner (alan jeffery) in plymouth? they are pretty good with imprezas, so if they are saying its 290hp then it must be near standard!

for the claimed power he was running he will need a different turbo, but there are so many that fit you would need to know exactly what he has to determine wether or not the car could make the power suggested

BLU

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Fudgeys hit the nail on the head.
STi is around 280bhp standard, UK Turbo 2000 are booked at around 220bhp but usually dyno nearer 240bhp. If its an STi it *should* have a red inlet, rear wiper and alloy wishbones (for quick visual identification)

Just rub your chin next time he starts talking about big power

Ben26

ok that's good to know, ill have a look then when I see him next I think he mentioned a td04 ?

and yes it was alan jefferys in plymouth

BLU

iTrader: (1)

280bhp is about the limit for a TD04, if its a TD04 then its more than likely a Turbo 2000!!
If it is an STi it should have the front entry VF23 or VF24 dependant on if its a V3 or a V4 STi. 330bhp is about max for those.

Top entry TD05 as fitted to early STis is capable of circa 350bhp

(all max power claims are approx btw )

Ben26

V3 or v4 sti ?? How would i know that. Does it go on years ??

Oranoco

Poor old deluded Scooby owner by the sounds of it. Sounds like an old mate of mine telling me about his 300bhp Rover 620Ti. Nugget forgot it was me that fitted his dump valve for him and dropped him at PowerFlow to pick the car up after the back box was fitted.

BLU

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Yeah, trouble is you get both on a P reg!!

I *think* the only visual difference between V3 and V4 is the addition of 4 pot brakes on the V4 however these are easily retro-fitted to non 4 pot models.....

Ben26

Ill have a hunt through his faceboom photos.

Korda

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Sounds like pub talk

Ben26

boooooooooo, he only has one pic of his car and its from the front, gutted

BLU

iTrader: (1)

Doh! Is he on any forums? If so what username does he usually go by??

Cossie Sean

if the chassis number is only 10 digits on the bulkhead it an inport, if its 17 its a uk car

have a look on the top og the cylinder heads, STi`s have a cross hatch casting mark and have solid lifters and should be 280bhp standard

close ratio gearboxes with 4.44 diffs IIRC and take off like a scolded rat

rsmark86

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Prodrive don't change ecus too get 330+

But that's on the blob eye shape ect

For the older cars (wrx) I know a lot of people change the ecu and turbo to get over 300bhp but not sure on a sti?

slammedorion

When I had my impreza type r back in 2005-2007 I spent best part of Ł10k on engine mods to get it over the 400bhp mark...
Dunno if things are still the same but I'm sure back then 1997-1998 impreza ecus weren't able to remap them, only way to get more out of them was with new management???

I remember when I first got my type r, was running a uprated 2 litre short block built by Teg sport, walbro pump, vf34, gems ecu... Etc
That then was running around 330bhp max...

That did bottom end within 2 months of me buying it!!!

Ł10k later
Ej22t short block, uprated pistons, rods, 2.5 litre crank... Making it a 2.35 litre.
Md321t turbo, uprated headers, down pipe, fmic, 800cc injectors, baffled sump, Adaptronics ecu, inlet spacers...
A few other parts here and there... And the bloody thing still started to slip a uprated clutch at 22psi!!!
Was built to do 500bhp...

Nick 172 Sport

fact you cant map imprezas 1997 -1998

slammedorion

If I had another I'd have a 99-00 Type R...
Awesome road car...

Nick 172 Sport

well had a bugeye didnt rate it id like a x plate classic in mica blue a wagon iff poss would love to have a drive off a classic i believe they are the proper subaru

slammedorion

My first impreza...



My type R...



My build thread...

http://bbs.scoobynet.com/projects-40...diy-style.html

Cossie Sean

TEG sport used to map our Motorsport and 450 and above stuff on Syvecs or similar plug in ECU`s

always with ALS and launch

Cossie.jack

I like the p1s

stevieturbo

Fact, yes you can


http://www.enduringsolutions.com/

RS Grant

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Haha, I'm not sure about your dyno figures for UK Turbos mate... I've been to many R/R days through various Subaru/Non Subaru clubs and standard cars (mine/others) don't really tend to do 25-30bhp over standard without modifications.

Alan knows what he's talking about, so I'd assume he's 'turned it down' with good reason. Wouldn't surprise me if it had a Fuel Cut Defender and bleed valve fitted, boosting to hell and ready for destruction.

You don't get a V4 on a P-reg.. R-reg is the earliest. The easiest way to tell between a V3 and V4 will be a completely different dashboard, since the V4 got the facelift 98-01 dashboard with MOMO steering wheel.


Cheers,
Grant

Ben26

Nice one RS GRANT.

BLU

iTrader: (1)

You can get the V4 in 97, granted on an R reg though so my mistake. They didn't get the facelift dash and Momo wheel until late 1998 when they upgraded the front bumper and grill, which is V5 and 6

RS Grant

iTrader: (1)

Sorry bud, you're wrong on this one.

You got V4 (UK Turbo/WRX/STI) on R and very early S registrations. They we semi-crossover models, they retained the three bar bumper of earlier models, but got a facelift dashboard with a Momo wheel that had a dark badge and an early style rubber gear gaiter. Then later S registration onwards cars were V5/6 which had the two bar bumper, crystal headlights, more pronounced grill which sat over the bumper rather than tucked behind, leather gear gaiter and the Momo badge was smaller and had a lighter titanium/champagne coloured ring round Momo.

I've owned six Imprezas over the past 11 years, five of them being 98-00 Classics UK Turbos... it's rare I get to share my ultra-nerdy knowledge on them these days!!


Cheers,
Grant

BLU

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Ok, we pretty much know the OP's mates car is a V3 so thats that.