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Guy i know took his car down to a local subaru "specialist" for a sort out. Vacuum leaks for fun. Running a bit shit he said. The lad had been claiming all sorts of power from 350-370bhp thinks its all forged inside with bigger turbo and i can see is a front mount , etc etc. We all know these lads . Anyway he text me today sayin he got his car back. I took ages to get the power out of him
He said they had to turn the power down to 290bhp !! Wtf ?
They said to get more power he would have to go aftermarket ecu as the standard one is limited ! Very vague i know
How true is this. Sounds like bull to me, but then i know nothing really of scoobys. Btw its a p reg wrx sti import he tells me.
Whats your thoughts ??
He said they had to turn the power down to 290bhp !! Wtf ?
They said to get more power he would have to go aftermarket ecu as the standard one is limited ! Very vague i know
How true is this. Sounds like bull to me, but then i know nothing really of scoobys. Btw its a p reg wrx sti import he tells me.
Whats your thoughts ??
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Yea i know mate. Why would they turn it down. They said it needed a new MAF sensor at Ł550 then said that wasnt the problem. The lad is just pub talk. But i cant imagine a sti ecu being limited to 290 ???
The tuner he took it to has big power scoobys that run 10's !
The tuner he took it to has big power scoobys that run 10's !
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Anyway it just dont make sence if it was running 370 bhp okay then why bother Turing it down now?
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From what I can work out is,
1) he's a bullshitting twat?
2) they turned down the boost as it was on its limits?
3) he doesn't know his elbow from his arse
4) he's a bullshitting twat?
But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt
1) he's a bullshitting twat?
2) they turned down the boost as it was on its limits?
3) he doesn't know his elbow from his arse
4) he's a bullshitting twat?
But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt
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The lads actually alright tbh. Well he recons it was 350-70 but had no evidence of this at all.
Im askin him loads of questions but he is very vauge when he replys.
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pub talk, 350-370 bhp scooby,
more like it was pretty standard with front mount and bleed valve
turner prob turned the boost down cause it was ready to melt
guy sounds like a believer in the "crank the boost for extra 100bhp" kinda guy
its running twice the factory boost so must be twice the factory power
prob felt fast so just believed it must be that power, down to earth with a bang now
sti should be able to go more than that totaly standard so prob isn't a real sti(like most classic sti's advertised)
either he's fool of shit, or somebody else has been and he's been silly enough to believe it
more like it was pretty standard with front mount and bleed valve
turner prob turned the boost down cause it was ready to melt
guy sounds like a believer in the "crank the boost for extra 100bhp" kinda guy
its running twice the factory boost so must be twice the factory power
prob felt fast so just believed it must be that power, down to earth with a bang now
sti should be able to go more than that totaly standard so prob isn't a real sti(like most classic sti's advertised)
either he's fool of shit, or somebody else has been and he's been silly enough to believe it
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hes talking shit. unless he paid big money for a proper scooby with different ecu etc as its hard getting power out of them on that management.or just ring the tuner and ask lol
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i had a sti import version 5 mine had a ecutek ecu and couldnt be mapped unless i had the licence number, to get a new licence number was around 150 pound but mine was 280 standard
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As said the classic impreza needs a daughter board to remap, do you know what turbo its on?
mine a 2001 bugeye at 240hp, and if i do a full decat and remap on the TD04 ill see about 270-280bhp and 320lbft, but my ecu can be remapped as it is.
i take it he went to engine tuner (alan jeffery) in plymouth? they are pretty good with imprezas, so if they are saying its 290hp then it must be near standard!
for the claimed power he was running he will need a different turbo, but there are so many that fit you would need to know exactly what he has to determine wether or not the car could make the power suggested
mine a 2001 bugeye at 240hp, and if i do a full decat and remap on the TD04 ill see about 270-280bhp and 320lbft, but my ecu can be remapped as it is.
i take it he went to engine tuner (alan jeffery) in plymouth? they are pretty good with imprezas, so if they are saying its 290hp then it must be near standard!
for the claimed power he was running he will need a different turbo, but there are so many that fit you would need to know exactly what he has to determine wether or not the car could make the power suggested
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Fudgeys hit the nail on the head.
STi is around 280bhp standard, UK Turbo 2000 are booked at around 220bhp but usually dyno nearer 240bhp. If its an STi it *should* have a red inlet, rear wiper and alloy wishbones (for quick visual identification)
Just rub your chin next time he starts talking about big power
STi is around 280bhp standard, UK Turbo 2000 are booked at around 220bhp but usually dyno nearer 240bhp. If its an STi it *should* have a red inlet, rear wiper and alloy wishbones (for quick visual identification)
Just rub your chin next time he starts talking about big power
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Fudgeys hit the nail on the head.
STi is around 280bhp standard, UK Turbo 2000 are booked at around 220bhp but usually dyno nearer 240bhp. If its an STi it *should* have a pink inlet, rear wiper and alloy wishbones (for quick visual identification)
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STi is around 280bhp standard, UK Turbo 2000 are booked at around 220bhp but usually dyno nearer 240bhp. If its an STi it *should* have a pink inlet, rear wiper and alloy wishbones (for quick visual identification)
Just rub your chin next time he starts talking about big power
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and yes it was alan jefferys in plymouth
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If it is an STi it should have the front entry VF23 or VF24 dependant on if its a V3 or a V4 STi. 330bhp is about max for those.
Top entry TD05 as fitted to early STis is capable of circa 350bhp
(all max power claims are approx btw
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Poor old deluded Scooby owner by the sounds of it. Sounds like an old mate of mine telling me about his 300bhp Rover 620Ti. Nugget forgot it was me that fitted his dump valve for him and dropped him at PowerFlow to pick the car up after the back box was fitted.
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if the chassis number is only 10 digits on the bulkhead it an inport, if its 17 its a uk car
have a look on the top og the cylinder heads, STi`s have a cross hatch casting mark and have solid lifters and should be 280bhp standard
close ratio gearboxes with 4.44 diffs IIRC and take off like a scolded rat
have a look on the top og the cylinder heads, STi`s have a cross hatch casting mark and have solid lifters and should be 280bhp standard
close ratio gearboxes with 4.44 diffs IIRC and take off like a scolded rat
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When I had my impreza type r back in 2005-2007 I spent best part of Ł10k on engine mods to get it over the 400bhp mark...
Dunno if things are still the same but I'm sure back then 1997-1998 impreza ecus weren't able to remap them, only way to get more out of them was with new management???
I remember when I first got my type r, was running a uprated 2 litre short block built by Teg sport, walbro pump, vf34, gems ecu... Etc
That then was running around 330bhp max...
That did bottom end within 2 months of me buying it!!!
Ł10k later
Ej22t short block, uprated pistons, rods, 2.5 litre crank... Making it a 2.35 litre.
Md321t turbo, uprated headers, down pipe, fmic, 800cc injectors, baffled sump, Adaptronics ecu, inlet spacers...
A few other parts here and there... And the bloody thing still started to slip a uprated clutch at 22psi!!!
Was built to do 500bhp...
Dunno if things are still the same but I'm sure back then 1997-1998 impreza ecus weren't able to remap them, only way to get more out of them was with new management???
I remember when I first got my type r, was running a uprated 2 litre short block built by Teg sport, walbro pump, vf34, gems ecu... Etc
That then was running around 330bhp max...
That did bottom end within 2 months of me buying it!!!
Ł10k later
Ej22t short block, uprated pistons, rods, 2.5 litre crank... Making it a 2.35 litre.
Md321t turbo, uprated headers, down pipe, fmic, 800cc injectors, baffled sump, Adaptronics ecu, inlet spacers...
A few other parts here and there... And the bloody thing still started to slip a uprated clutch at 22psi!!!
Was built to do 500bhp...
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When I had my impreza type r back in 2005-2007 I spent best part of Ł10k on engine mods to get it over the 400bhp mark...
Dunno if things are still the same but I'm sure back then 1997-1998 impreza ecus weren't able to remap them, only way to get more out of them was with new management???
I remember when I first got my type r, was running a uprated 2 litre short block built by Teg sport, walbro pump, vf34, gems ecu... Etc
That then was running around 330bhp max...
That did bottom end within 2 months of me buying it!!!
Ł10k later
Ej22t short block, uprated pistons, rods, 2.5 litre crank... Making it a 2.35 litre.
Md321t turbo, uprated headers, down pipe, fmic, 800cc injectors, baffled sump, Adaptronics ecu, inlet spacers...
A few other parts here and there... And the bloody thing still started to slip a uprated clutch at 22psi!!!
Was built to do 500bhp...
Dunno if things are still the same but I'm sure back then 1997-1998 impreza ecus weren't able to remap them, only way to get more out of them was with new management???
I remember when I first got my type r, was running a uprated 2 litre short block built by Teg sport, walbro pump, vf34, gems ecu... Etc
That then was running around 330bhp max...
That did bottom end within 2 months of me buying it!!!
Ł10k later
Ej22t short block, uprated pistons, rods, 2.5 litre crank... Making it a 2.35 litre.
Md321t turbo, uprated headers, down pipe, fmic, 800cc injectors, baffled sump, Adaptronics ecu, inlet spacers...
A few other parts here and there... And the bloody thing still started to slip a uprated clutch at 22psi!!!
Was built to do 500bhp...
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Haha, I'm not sure about your dyno figures for UK Turbos mate... I've been to many R/R days through various Subaru/Non Subaru clubs and standard cars (mine/others) don't really tend to do 25-30bhp over standard without modifications.
Alan knows what he's talking about, so I'd assume he's 'turned it down' with good reason. Wouldn't surprise me if it had a Fuel Cut Defender and bleed valve fitted, boosting to hell and ready for destruction.
You don't get a V4 on a P-reg.. R-reg is the earliest. The easiest way to tell between a V3 and V4 will be a completely different dashboard, since the V4 got the facelift 98-01 dashboard with MOMO steering wheel.
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Alan knows what he's talking about, so I'd assume he's 'turned it down' with good reason. Wouldn't surprise me if it had a Fuel Cut Defender and bleed valve fitted, boosting to hell and ready for destruction.
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You got V4 (UK Turbo/WRX/STI) on R and very early S registrations. They we semi-crossover models, they retained the three bar bumper of earlier models, but got a facelift dashboard with a Momo wheel that had a dark badge and an early style rubber gear gaiter. Then later S registration onwards cars were V5/6 which had the two bar bumper, crystal headlights, more pronounced grill which sat over the bumper rather than tucked behind, leather gear gaiter and the Momo badge was smaller and had a lighter titanium/champagne coloured ring round Momo.
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