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Old 10-08-2013, 04:55 PM
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Default Stefan Bellof S - Nurburgring

They've renamed a section of the Nordschleife which was known as Pflansgarten 2 or 3 depending who you spoke to, to the Stefan Bellof S.
Today, to commemorate this, no less than Derek Bell has done a demo lap in the pukka Rothmans Porsche 956





Stefan Bellof (who was killed in a 1000km race at Spa in 1985) record still stands for the fastest lap of the Nordschleife at 6:11 set back in 1983.
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Nice to see him get some recognition, an excellent driver tragically lost.
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Great tribute there
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6.11 wow.Lovely car.
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A good tribute that. Must of been one hell of a sight seeing that Porsche there.
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An amazing feat when you consider it was 30 years ago and no one has beaten it since!
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thats a fucking silly time that !!!
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Shame there's no video of it, there's a video of Derek Bell in the same car at the same event in 1983 during qualifying for the 1000km race which is a 6:37.


This clip shows the fastest ever lap recorded on camera on the Nürburgring Nordschleife. The lap was done by Derek Bell during the qualifying of 1000km race held in 1983 - driving a Rothmans Porsche 956
Note Jacky Ickx passes him on the lap, so must've been faster too!

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incredible presumably they're talking full laps over the start/finish line as well, not the bridge to gantry nonsense the tourists talk about
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Would be full 'sport auto' lap rather than BtG.
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
incredible presumably they're talking full laps over the start/finish line as well, not the bridge to gantry nonsense the tourists talk about
Unfortunately the tourists only get to do bridge to gantry laps though Nick so a fair benchmark really for them.
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Originally Posted by polly_x
Unfortunately the tourists only get to do bridge to gantry laps though Nick so a fair benchmark really for them.
absolutely Stu, but we do have to make the distinction
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There's always chat about what to add for a full lap vs BTG, consensus says around 25 secs, but that varies from car to car. Obviously something wanging down DH at 170 is going to get to T13 quicker than a hot hatch.
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Wow. My favourite Race car ever, so beautiful. Wish I was there to see this!
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Shame it's going to be closing unless someone coughs up to buy it! Can we all cobble some pennies together for it?
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I've heard they've had an offer. Don't know who by though.
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Wanted to go there but couldn't make it unfortunately
I've heard rumours that the record will be attacked this year??
The new Bellof S is the best section of the track, the steep downhill followed by the blind S corners is my favourite
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Yes, I like it as you go through the S bend you can't see anything but the trees and your left side wheels go over the flat concrete kerbs on the exit .BRRRRRRRRRRR.
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I always try to avoid the kerbs on the exit
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will be there on sunday, lets hope the track stays open a couple of laps, before the tanoy blurts out the norm
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"ACHTUNG ACHTUNG"

"someone has been driving like a bell end,again"
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Haven't been for a few years now, awesome place, bloody expensive if you crash though. A 205 crashed last week and had a 3600 euro armco bill.
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They towed me off last May and did cost me €290,- that's towing from Höhe 8 to Bongard in Breidscheid
Marshals from Nürburgring was €98,25 and the towing from Bongard was €190,- no fluids spilled or armco damaged so I was lucky

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boils my piss when that happens, the hours I have spent in that car park hoping for the track to open.
then the filth turn up nd my heart sinks
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Go out first thing in the morning mate
Got the bill fully refunded by my insurance company btw
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Be there when it opens,feck off spectating before about 10 am, go back later just before it closes. Usually the best way.
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That is an amazing piece of driving by Mr Bell.

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Originally Posted by GVK.
I've heard they've had an offer. Don't know who by though.
The "Red Bull" Nurburgring?

Woundn't put it past them...
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Anyone have any links to hires pics? I'd like to get some framed - favorite car on my favorite track
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I got those from Northloop.co.uk forum, I guess they were posted on the Touristenfahrer.de forum (German forum) worth a look.

http://www.touristenfahrerforum.de/forum/index.php

Looks like you have to register to view the forum, I used to have a log in for it but it doesn't work anymore.

Feck. Can't use a free e mail address to register. WTF!!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...tyypVGbM#at=12


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watch the Silverstone classic on ITV4+1 at 10pm - group c porsches and touring car rs500s.

pity the commentator, jonathon legard is a fucking moron
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Ah Legard, the F1 Reject
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
watch the Silverstone classic on ITV4+1 at 10pm - group c porsches and touring car rs500s.

pity the commentator, jonathon legard is a fucking moron

Thanks
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Full demo lap from Bell.

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