Ultimate CVH
17-07-2013, 04:50 PM
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if it happens I am 1000 % in
18-07-2013, 07:19 PM
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I've always wondered if you still have to cough up if you turn up on the day and it pisses down with rain
22-07-2013, 01:07 PM
#203
The Zetec CGI block was specifically designed for high boost applications for increased reliability - used for factory rally efforts.
If the factory thin wall zetec blocks were indestructible at the 500 BHP level why would Ford racing go through the expense of a different block for performance use?
Most of the big power builds I have seen on PF have used the CGI block. Even Jano had a few CGI blocks for high power builds I seem to recall.
I would never trust a thin wall zetec or cvh block at 30+ psi boost levels.
Anyhow - just my opinion of course.
If the factory thin wall zetec blocks were indestructible at the 500 BHP level why would Ford racing go through the expense of a different block for performance use?
Most of the big power builds I have seen on PF have used the CGI block. Even Jano had a few CGI blocks for high power builds I seem to recall.
I would never trust a thin wall zetec or cvh block at 30+ psi boost levels.
Anyhow - just my opinion of course.
22-07-2013, 01:09 PM
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And yes, you have to pay even if it's pissing it down!
30-07-2013, 11:26 PM
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31-07-2013, 01:45 AM
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the Zetec is not a very good performance starting point - not much better than a CVH tbh.
This thread is about the ultimate CVH, not ultimate power.
If it was about ultimate power, no one would ever start with a Zetec.
31-07-2013, 03:42 AM
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If I really wanted big power I would certainly avoid the "crappy" Zetec (by modern standards).
the Zetec is not a very good performance starting point - not much better than a CVH tbh.
This thread is about the ultimate CVH, not ultimate power.
If it was about ultimate power, no one would ever start with a Zetec.
the Zetec is not a very good performance starting point - not much better than a CVH tbh.
This thread is about the ultimate CVH, not ultimate power.
If it was about ultimate power, no one would ever start with a Zetec.
true ........ if i had the choice i would have a civic type r turbo k20 lump fully stroked with vipec v88 and a efr turbo..... but thats a thing of dreams
i like the zetec because its very easy to get around 270bhp and doesnt cost alot compaired to getting a cvh to that, and they are much more drivable
if i want a big power build i would look into an engine thats much more suited to big power builds in the first place
31-07-2013, 07:10 AM
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Ive never had a problem with Brunters running an external wastegate. If you lads really want to run there are 4 Vmax events each year to choose from. Problem is when it comes to it nobody turns up ive tried for 2 years to get people on here to turn up. Its one thing talking a fast car on a thread on here another to turn up & find out just how slow you really are.
31-07-2013, 08:40 AM
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50 is a fair amount and people may complain/shy away if they think it's going to be too busy. A thrash used to be 10-20 cars max. May as well just go along to a quiet day at Santa Pod RWYB and pay £20 each for unlimited runs.
And yes, you have to pay even if it's pissing it down!
And yes, you have to pay even if it's pissing it down!
I would love a day with just 50 cars, I have been iirc 4 times now to rwyd and there has always been over 200 cars running, mostly over 300 !
I have arrived at 8 am and left at 6pm literally cueing and running all day and got 3 runs in.
don't forget 50 cars is only 25 rows
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31-07-2013, 09:40 AM
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I would love a day with just 50 cars, I have been iirc 4 times now to rwyd and there has always been over 200 cars running, mostly over 300 !
I have arrived at 8 am and left at 6pm literally cueing and running all day and got 3 runs in.
don't forget 50 cars is only 25 rows
I have arrived at 8 am and left at 6pm literally cueing and running all day and got 3 runs in.
don't forget 50 cars is only 25 rows
Are they show days though? I went to an off season RWYB only day in October last year and there must have been 30 cars running, if that. Went round as many times as we liked with virtually no waiting. We stopped as the car was getting too hot! lol
31-07-2013, 04:57 PM
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31-07-2013, 05:16 PM
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1/4 mile beasty!!!!
31-07-2013, 09:16 PM
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If I really wanted big power I would certainly avoid the "crappy" Zetec (by modern standards).
the Zetec is not a very good performance starting point - not much better than a CVH tbh.
This thread is about the ultimate CVH, not ultimate power.
If it was about ultimate power, no one would ever start with a Zetec.
the Zetec is not a very good performance starting point - not much better than a CVH tbh.
This thread is about the ultimate CVH, not ultimate power.
If it was about ultimate power, no one would ever start with a Zetec.
31-07-2013, 09:55 PM
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so you can have alot fast car for alot less money.
you can have a 350bhp zetec turbo for half or less of the price of a cvh.
but saying that i respect people like karl/ ollie/ gus and stu for sticking with them and trying, otherwise we would have nothing to talk about
its abit like when i built my aspirated cossie, i could have fit a jap engine/ turbo cossie straight in but for me the atmo cossie has more appeal to me that any other engine and sounds better than nearly everything except a bda
31-07-2013, 11:16 PM
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drivablity, trackablity, more progressive when set up right, more tunerable
so you can have alot fast car for alot less money.
you can have a 350bhp zetec turbo for half or less of the price of a cvh.
but saying that i respect people like karl/ ollie/ gus and stu for sticking with them and trying, otherwise we would have nothing to talk about
its abit like when i built my aspirated cossie, i could have fit a jap engine/ turbo cossie straight in but for me the atmo cossie has more appeal to me that any other engine and sounds better than nearly everything except a bda
so you can have alot fast car for alot less money.
you can have a 350bhp zetec turbo for half or less of the price of a cvh.
but saying that i respect people like karl/ ollie/ gus and stu for sticking with them and trying, otherwise we would have nothing to talk about
its abit like when i built my aspirated cossie, i could have fit a jap engine/ turbo cossie straight in but for me the atmo cossie has more appeal to me that any other engine and sounds better than nearly everything except a bda
01-08-2013, 12:24 AM
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If I really wanted big power I would certainly avoid the "crappy" Zetec (by modern standards).
the Zetec is not a very good performance starting point - not much better than a CVH tbh.
This thread is about the ultimate CVH, not ultimate power.
If it was about ultimate power, no one would ever start with a Zetec.
the Zetec is not a very good performance starting point - not much better than a CVH tbh.
This thread is about the ultimate CVH, not ultimate power.
If it was about ultimate power, no one would ever start with a Zetec.
We can all name engines that are better at individual tasks but as an over all performer in relatively mild states of tune the zetec is hard to beat given that fact that any UK escort/fiesta owner (most people in this thread) can install a zetec with very minor mods.
The worst part of the zetec imo by far is the weak oil pump. However a decent head and properly spec'd cams/turbo really do make zetecs a pretty hard package to beat given relative price and ease of fitments.
Rob,
01-08-2013, 12:25 AM
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drivablity, trackablity, more progressive when set up right, more tunerable
so you can have alot fast car for alot less money.
you can have a 350bhp zetec turbo for half or less of the price of a cvh.
but saying that i respect people like karl/ ollie/ gus and stu for sticking with them and trying, otherwise we would have nothing to talk about
its abit like when i built my aspirated cossie, i could have fit a jap engine/ turbo cossie straight in but for me the atmo cossie has more appeal to me that any other engine and sounds better than nearly everything except a bda
so you can have alot fast car for alot less money.
you can have a 350bhp zetec turbo for half or less of the price of a cvh.
but saying that i respect people like karl/ ollie/ gus and stu for sticking with them and trying, otherwise we would have nothing to talk about
its abit like when i built my aspirated cossie, i could have fit a jap engine/ turbo cossie straight in but for me the atmo cossie has more appeal to me that any other engine and sounds better than nearly everything except a bda
01-08-2013, 03:00 AM
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but these days if i was going to spend 20k on a car it would be a mk2 frs, i loved my one before being forced to sell up by the missus
but i guess thats because im getting older.and i only had my frst zt a week or two before killing the headgasket lol, but ive done loads of upgrades that cost peanuts compaired to a cvh and should piss 250/270bhp
01-08-2013, 03:44 PM
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I only say the oil pump as its constantly at the back of my head when ever I do anything to do with a high(er) powered zetec. Although I/Fiends have never had one fail!
Personally if I were building a decent zetec I would be speaking to CNC heads.
Rob,
Personally if I were building a decent zetec I would be speaking to CNC heads.
Rob,
01-08-2013, 04:48 PM
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I've got a 4G63 evo engine in the front of my mk6 fiesta. Using the evo box - plenty of space for it. As far as I'm aware, there's more room in the earlier engine bays too, so shouldn't be a problem at all.
01-08-2013, 05:47 PM
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01-08-2013, 06:04 PM
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0wd right now - no driveshafts made yet haha. I need to take it over to DJM to have them made soon.
I have a project thread on here... I'll find it and link
I have a project thread on here... I'll find it and link
01-08-2013, 06:11 PM
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https://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds-and-projects/444186-project-fiesta-st500-evolution.html
I don't update it often as there doesn't seem to be much interest on here compared to other forums. Page 2 onwards is where you'll see the engine fitted etc
I don't update it often as there doesn't seem to be much interest on here compared to other forums. Page 2 onwards is where you'll see the engine fitted etc
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