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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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According to ford spec's @ 8.1 cr (as per manual) conpression tests read as nornmal @8.5 bar @8:1Comp ratio
The following are my results-

1-130.5 psi
2-130.5psi
3-130.5psi
4-130.5ps



I believe my Cr is 7.6:1 but the head has been skimed, is there a linear progression? ie -

7.2:1(ratio) =110PSI (Compression)
7.4:1=120Psi(compression)
7.6:1=130Psi(compression)
7.8:1=140PSI(COMP)

And so on and so forth..............

Thanks for you time.y



My Best , Tim.



it makes sense that

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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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They're closer to 9:1

1 bar is 14.7 psi, call it 15 cos it's simple.

130 divide by 15 is 8.6, plus a little for the missing 0.3 and it's between 8.7 and 8.9

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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:20 PM
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Compression and compression ratio are two different aspects.

There will be a trend/correlation providing you only ever changed the ratio aspect. get a bit more complicated when you bring in valve timming.....which has massive affect on compression.

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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Rs1
Compression and compression ratio are two different aspects.

There will be a trend/correlation providing you only ever changed the ratio aspect. get a bit more complicated when you bring in valve timming.....which has massive affect on compression.
As does boost and charge temp in cylinder increase. But these are statics. As quoted in manuals and as tested with a spark plug replacement pressure gauge. 99% of passionford won't know their dynamic cr, 25% probably won't know what one is
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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Did you measure the bore/stroke volume and the volume of the combustion chamber at tdc as that's the best way to get a true compression ratio
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by the_frozen_one
As does boost and charge temp in cylinder increase. But these are statics. As quoted in manuals and as tested with a spark plug replacement pressure gauge. 99% of passionford won't know their dynamic cr, 25% probably won't know what one is
^^^ true this, main reason why a lot have issues
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Originally Posted by gingerturbo
Did you measure the bore/stroke volume and the volume of the combustion chamber at tdc as that's the best way to get a true compression ratio
I'm willing to bet he doesn't have a 12 inch pin mag block, or a calibrated burette, any cc fluid or a cc plate.
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To a lot of people you just spoke foreign, when you test measure yours do you use a dti gauge to get true tdc as the piston floats over or just go with the notch marks
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Originally Posted by gingerturbo
To a lot of people you just spoke foreign, when you test measure yours do you use a dti gauge to get true tdc as the piston floats over or just go with the notch marks
Glad someone understands :-D

True TDC with the dti. Rechecked for each piston ( don't assume firing pairs are equal) grease around the top inch of the cylinder to seal the rings on the way up, scrape excess grease from the piston/bore clearance with a scrap feeler blade and away you go
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Originally Posted by the_frozen_one
Glad someone understands :-D

True TDC with the dti. Rechecked for each piston ( don't assume firing pairs are equal) grease around the top inch of the cylinder to seal the rings on the way up, scrape excess grease from the piston/bore clearance with a scrap feeler blade and away you go
Snap. My dti is probily the most used engineering tool I own I think, other than feelers and a vernier
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