Got me thinking.

What would be the ultimate spec YB and CVH (not ZVH). By this I don't mean power, both engines have been taken to their absolute max (Rod, Dave Moss, Ade, Olly etc). I mean the perfect mix of power, reliability, comfort, ease to drive etc. It may well be that a stage one YB with 280 brake and standard suspension could be the 'ultimate' as some will say that offers decent performance, or maybe a chipped CVH running 180 brake and say Koni's all round. Maybe a 350 horses YB with Koni's and a remap may be the best. There are bound to be loads of different arguments, so let's have a topical (and sensible) brainstorm, but let's stick to YB and CVH.

Discuss !

 

If you include modding every thing to make it all work as a good car I'd say what mad ade had / has rwd fun out of this world road pace lol and still the classic standard saff look

 

Always thought my S1 at 180 with a chip and standard everything was the best all round Ford I've ever driven

 

I built my Orion to be the best i could make it, not the fastest people have made granted but at around 200bhp and paddle clutch, ib5 gearbox with LSD and quickshift it doesn't eat gearboxes, can be driven daily comfortably, take 4 people, sensible on fuel even by todays standards, only downside is on koni's the ride is a litle harsh and i prefered spax shocks when i had those. Its still a fun car cos when the turbo kicks in on the CVH's it always brings a grin and it pisses off the diesel audi's, bm's and mercs all day long. mine smokes less than there's when booted too

NMS set it up for me and its been rock solid reliable. full leather interior with a bang on heater (as only turbo owners will know too well) turbo when you need it, 1600 cvh when you dont.

Escort RS turbo in the same spec as mine would be one of the best under any inspection i guarantee!

 

RSMat's 3 door is probably a good YB example, not sure on the lifespan of his turbo but its probably right up there.

 

Each person would have his ultimate Spec & it will always be dictated by cost thats the way it is. The more you spend the better you can make it.
The thread starter talks about taking the engine to the absolute maximum is that for one race or 40k thats what you have to decide. You can have over 1000bhp on methanol from your YB but it will cost 50k & be akin to a grenade. If you want 40k miles then you ultimate Spec will start with a 4.

The higher the maximum Power The more things need to change to cope- Special gearboxes, 10" diffs, rear beam, chassis connectors, coilovers, uprated prop/drivesghafts, Bigger brakes, Coilovers. Its easy to sink 70k if you mod everything. If you have a 20k budget you have to pick & choose your bits with care but to you it can still be the ultimate Spec thats what makes this hobby so great.

Must admit im working on a car at the moment that i would love to own.
Mk1 Fiesta with a 500bhp YB engine, rwd & incredible body mods to get huge wheels . Its not got huge Power but i would love it & im sure its the owners ultimate Spec.

 

I made mine so it was the ultimate drive/ reliability... The turbo has lasted a year with plenty of spanking and is still like new... 400bhp is plenty for proper driving down the twisties... But I may feel the need for a bit more once I've fitted a proper beam ect.... But ATM on the standard beam I'm pushing to the limit .

 

What's wrong with zvh? Lol properly built zvh is a mint power house while keeping cvh head! In my eyes only

 

Because he's on about just factory engines from stock.

 

I think if you have a decent amount of bhp you need good suspension and defo good brakes to slow it down.

 

Rod hit the nail on the head, everyone has there own interpritation of there ultimate spec...

For me would be full on wrc car, but ive settled for a group N rally car

 

Was that the one that was on the cover of classic fords grafter special?

 

Personally a good stage 3 with small turbo being absolutely raped is my favourite spec, it's not what I've got in my car though Been in a few like this and I used to run that spec a few years ago, it eats turbos but it's very responsive, just my preference tbh.

 

It was on some mag cover.

 

Proper love the low lag spec...

 

I know Andy - his car is awesome!

 

500bhp not huge power???? I wouldnt mind a 500bhp cossie.

That fiesta looks smart.

 

It is smart. It dont need anymore Power it will be a handfull as it is.

 

Hi Rod,

I'm Andy with the fiesta, the offer still stands if you want to drive it while Mark maps it!!

 

That fiesta is just amazing

 

awesome car mate a car id love to build one day

 

That fiesta is totally awesome!

 

i know a mechanic who has loads of brand new cvh engines purchased from ford dealer

 

Each person would have his ultimate Spec & it will always be dictated by cost thats the way it is.