Another failed gated sump causing engine meltdown
#721
Dont worry benni he is just another hater!!!lol
So as long as a car can have a wide open throttle 100% of the time it will be ok no matter what map you put on it???lmfao!!
Luke mapped that car to mid to low 12s across the board and it was awesome!!
cheers danny
#724
As luke has just said it was afr that took the job on actually and id forgotten about that..
cheers danny
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Still waiting for the pics nits the speculation
#729
When ep moved from bolney to horsham afr joined place and chris had originally come to ep but inbetween the move..
luke didnt have time to do all the work so afr took it on and finished it but im sure there is graphs for 148 hp after a lot of messing about??
cheers danny
#731
Luke was in a bad place and was going down hill and john had big interests at trying to keep luke going so yes he was trying to pull it together
cheers danny
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When ep moved from bolney to horsham afr joined place and chris had originally come to ep but inbetween the move..
luke didnt have time to do all the work so afr took it on and finished it but im sure there is graphs for 148 hp after a lot of messing about??
cheers danny
luke didnt have time to do all the work so afr took it on and finished it but im sure there is graphs for 148 hp after a lot of messing about??
cheers danny
Steve
#734
And you still havnt posted pics of pistons!!!
Weird ah??
cheers danny
#736
The car was with ep but didnt get started as the guy was getting all the bits together for the conversion,then luke moved and afr took the job on..
Tom and bear built it and ike tried doing the mapping..
Any more questions??what does this have to do with anything??
Another diversion from the real question??
cheers danny
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Mate tbh I dont give a fuck but what does grind me is the fact that Danny, Luke and this John fella all knew Lukes life was going shit shape and at best he made some silly mistakes as has been broadcast here on many occasions and at worst has openly admitted to not having his head in his work....yetr all of them still would promise the customers the earth in return for some hard earned cash(me being one of them).
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The car was with ep but didnt get started as the guy was getting all the bits together for the conversion,then luke moved and afr took the job on..
Tom and bear built it and ike tried doing the mapping..
Any more questions??what does this have to do with anything??
Another diversion from the real question??
cheers danny
Tom and bear built it and ike tried doing the mapping..
Any more questions??what does this have to do with anything??
Another diversion from the real question??
cheers danny
Was just trying to understand and get my head around the whole Luke/ep/afr connection seeing as one two or all three of them had my hard earned cash.
Steve
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so you read my reply to dojj then
problem I have is which camera to use my canon 600d or my canon 7d
then which lens would be best to use
should I use my canon efs 10-22 mm
or should I use my ef 85mmL macro
or my ef 70-200 L f 2.8 I have so many
don't want people criticising the image quality
#743
Mate tbh I dont give a fuck but what does grind me is the fact that Danny, Luke and this John fella all knew Lukes life was going shit shape and at best he made some silly mistakes as has been broadcast here on many occasions and at worst has openly admitted to not having his head in his work....yetr all of them still would promise the customers the earth in return for some hard earned cash(me being one of them).
Desert Moonstone Steve
Desert Moonstone Steve
Whats your point mate?? when some ones life is falling apart what do you want them to do??
Shut shop and go home? fuck finishing their jobs??
Or try your best and get things done??
You come out with some shit and infact for some one who doesnt give a shit can fucking moan enough..
Fucking hell steve anyone would think we built you a shit engine thats blown up and weve told you to fuck off or something??
If one person thats of respect ie karl or similar says the map damaged your car il pay for your pistons!!! i didnt even get one pence from you but il do that just to stop you crying!!
cheers danny
#744
No diversion from me mate, I dont have any pistons to take pictures of for you, I do have some pics of my nice new cosworth pistons if you would like to see them, they are lush, pure porn.
Was just trying to understand and get my head around the whole Luke/ep/afr connection seeing as one two or all three of them had my hard earned cash.
Steve
Was just trying to understand and get my head around the whole Luke/ep/afr connection seeing as one two or all three of them had my hard earned cash.
Steve
Ive seen many shiny cosworth pistons before mate and as i said before im surprised your sticking with a std rod with a new build??
A 136 mm wrc rod and short skirt piston is a much better up grade and stops engine wear as quick too..
Im sure either way your old school set up will please you..
cheers danny
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I'm not crying mate but if the shoe was on the other foot i dare say you would want to know why someone who was at rock bottom and has admitted to not being at his PEAK was still able to carry on with such important stuff as this....dont you think thats a far comment, I have been there despite what you think and before i got to the point where i knew my customers would start to suffer i took three weeks out and just took stock of my life, then when i returned i was fully focused.
Steve
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#747
#748
I'm not crying mate but if the shoe was on the other foot i dare say you would want to know why someone who was at rock bottom and has admitted to not being at his PEAK was still able to carry on with such important stuff as this....dont you think thats a far comment, I have been there despite what you think and before i got to the point where i knew my customers would start to suffer i took three weeks out and just took stock of my life, then when i returned i was fully focused.
Steve
Steve
Well you were lucky steve to pull through steve..
Imo you didnt get a raw deal anyway so not n issue for you
cheers danny
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I appreciate that people can and do get sucked into things like i did after the RR day at Ep hence why i went back to Luke for the mapping but I will leave you with this Danny as it came from you as one of the last things you said as i left the workshop and quote " that is a good strong engine there and a genuine 490 bhp car"
Goodnight, I have customers to sort in the morning and need to be fresh as a daisy to give them 100% of my skill.
Steve
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tbf, the difference between 1.87 and 2.1 is what, 4 psi? I don't think that contributed to the engine failure. But the fact he's used the map off Steves car which had the resolution up past 2 Bar and changed it just makes me scream why?!
Regards going through previous maps to find the best base I completely agree
Whilst I'm at it, a live map from the usuals mentioned in this thread is ~Ł500? and ep were charging ~Ł250? Theres a well known phrase in there somewhere (no disrespect to either of you)
Regards going through previous maps to find the best base I completely agree
Whilst I'm at it, a live map from the usuals mentioned in this thread is ~Ł500? and ep were charging ~Ł250? Theres a well known phrase in there somewhere (no disrespect to either of you)
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#751
Who knows...fuck nose.
I appreciate that people can and do get sucked into things like i did after the RR day at Ep hence why i went back to Luke for the mapping but I will leave you with this Danny as it came from you as one of the last things you said as i left the workshop and quote " that is a good strong engine there and a genuine 490 bhp car"
Goodnight, I have customers to sort in the morning and need to be fresh as a daisy to give them 100% of my skill.
Steve
I appreciate that people can and do get sucked into things like i did after the RR day at Ep hence why i went back to Luke for the mapping but I will leave you with this Danny as it came from you as one of the last things you said as i left the workshop and quote " that is a good strong engine there and a genuine 490 bhp car"
Goodnight, I have customers to sort in the morning and need to be fresh as a daisy to give them 100% of my skill.
Steve
Well fuck me i was good on my estimate then!!!
It did 491 after a lot of tweeks and i wasnt even there!!!lol
But hey i know fuck all!!!
So an engine you knew nothing about had a t4 strapped to it and 490 hp achieved and when it goes wrong you want to blame the guy that mapped it!!!
I think that should be a leason learnt in itself..
Night mate
cheers danny
#752
tbf, the difference between 1.87 and 2.1 is what, 4 psi? I don't think that contributed to the engine failure. But the fact he's used the map off Steves car which had the resolution up past 2 Bar and changed it just makes me scream why?!
Regards going through previous maps to find the best base I completely agree
Whilst I'm at it, a live map from the usuals mentioned in this thread is ~Ł500? and ep were charging ~Ł250? Theres a well known phrase in there somewhere (no disrespect to either of you)
Regards going through previous maps to find the best base I completely agree
Whilst I'm at it, a live map from the usuals mentioned in this thread is ~Ł500? and ep were charging ~Ł250? Theres a well known phrase in there somewhere (no disrespect to either of you)
It was a base used for the fuel map iirc what luke said and nothing else and the engines are of different spec ie cossie 4is being std cr and steves lower cr(7.4 cr)so a different map in all other aspects..
Ep charged a very reasonable hourly rate and got a lot of work because of it!!
cheers danny
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so you read my reply to dojj then
problem I have is which camera to use my canon 600d or my canon 7d
then which lens would be best to use
should I use my canon efs 10-22 mm
or should I use my ef 85mmL macro
or my ef 70-200 L f 2.8 I have so many
don't want people criticising the image quality
so you read my reply to dojj then
problem I have is which camera to use my canon 600d or my canon 7d
then which lens would be best to use
should I use my canon efs 10-22 mm
or should I use my ef 85mmL macro
or my ef 70-200 L f 2.8 I have so many
don't want people criticising the image quality
Benni
#755
Hahahha nice one chip!! why??
As your a pedantic fella at the best of times where did you get even 3 tuning companies from??
I only ever owned one and that was abc !!
If i were to own another that would be two..where the fuck has the mention of 4 come from??
cheers danny
#756
Testing the future
...and when presented with the facts on lukes map and the way it was almost a guesstimate as to what fuel and ignition to use at higher rpm due to not inputting the max boost level and/or not using the correct map sensor then in my eyes and probably others it is a poor map that could have been made a lot better
I repect what your saying but your still reading between the lines because the 3 bar map is still the map sensor of choice when mapping with webber so you are wrong to think its the wrong map sensor..
Secondly the top line is only wrong if the car sees det there which it didnt..
Its not a bad map unless it did cause damage which it has not imo
cheers danny
Secondly the top line is only wrong if the car sees det there which it didnt..
Its not a bad map unless it did cause damage which it has not imo
cheers danny
you cannot dispute that whilst a map with a much lower 'top line' than the boost seen on a rolling road may not have given problems on the rolling road (i.e. no det and good AFR), it is not the best way of doing it so i would never class it as 'good', and without proper road testing it would be unknown as to be 'not bad'.
the best way of doing it would have been to have suitable breakpoints to either cover the entire boost range if possible given the limitations of the MAP sensor, or to the maximum of the MAP sensor, whichever is greatest. that is indisputable fact. do you agree with that Danny?
the point is that if someone doing the mapping does not understand that simple principle then they are not very good at their job.
if they do understand that but choose not to bother because they are going through some personal problems, again they have not done a good job.
if they understand it, but don't know how to use the tools they have to change it, again they have not done a good job.
if they understand it but don't have the tools to change it, they should get some better tools in order to do a better job.
hopefully you can understand my point and agree it and we can draw a line under it as i'm starting to look more and more like chip posting
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Cause you do your best to make sure NOTHING sticks to you when things go wrong
ABC/EP/AFR
Flol, thanks for that update from "Danny@EnhancedPerformance"
You used to be on here all day every day giving it all the "Bring your car to us at EP, we will this and we will that and I will such and such"
And now its all gone belly up
"It was never anything to do with me"
Previous 3 I was on about were the ones tony mentioned, ie: ABC/EP/AFR
And before you start yet again I know already that you claim "Danny@EnhancedPerformance" was never actually a bloke called danny who was involved with Enhanced Performance and that was just us all getting the wrong end of the stick somehow as despite the username, the shared trade account, the shared PC and a year of you coming on here everyday saying you were from enhanced performance we actually all just got that wrong and none of it happened and you actually spent that yeah in Melton Molbury working as a pork pie filler and have no idea at all who enhanced performance were or why anyone on here would be mistaken enough to think that Danny@EnhancedPerformance was somehow anything to do with EnhancedPerformance.
The shaggy fella has got nothing on you when it comes to the "it wasnt me" line
As your a pedantic fella at the best of times where did you get even 3 tuning companies from??
I only ever owned one and that was abc !!
You used to be on here all day every day giving it all the "Bring your car to us at EP, we will this and we will that and I will such and such"
And now its all gone belly up
"It was never anything to do with me"
If i were to own another that would be two..where the fuck has the mention of 4 come from??
And before you start yet again I know already that you claim "Danny@EnhancedPerformance" was never actually a bloke called danny who was involved with Enhanced Performance and that was just us all getting the wrong end of the stick somehow as despite the username, the shared trade account, the shared PC and a year of you coming on here everyday saying you were from enhanced performance we actually all just got that wrong and none of it happened and you actually spent that yeah in Melton Molbury working as a pork pie filler and have no idea at all who enhanced performance were or why anyone on here would be mistaken enough to think that Danny@EnhancedPerformance was somehow anything to do with EnhancedPerformance.
The shaggy fella has got nothing on you when it comes to the "it wasnt me" line
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You're being a bit extreme, Chip? You've just took 'I never owned it' and changed it to 'I had nothing to do with it'. God knows where you got that from! He's never claimed to have had nothing to do with it, he's always said he has and if you took the time to read the thread, he openly admits he had a lot to do with it because it was owned by a good friend. He's never owned it, and has never claimed to own it is what he is saying.
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#760
Chip at his best!!!..you are my friend a silly man with a big problem..
You also have gone totally of track and usually that means thats because im winning so you can say what you want..
As benni has said if you even took the time to read the very thread your posting on or many of the other 100s weve argued on you would clearly know that i never owned ep and where the fuck did you get afr from???lol
Because you have nothing to properly dig at me about your going to have to make shit up and that makes you look like a twat so carry on chipper!!!!!
Did you see what stu said above or are you more interested in trying to make fun of me again??
Also you keep saying you want to meet me??what a joke and you really dont know the sort of guy i am!!!!lol...
One minute i like dan but i dont like his practice...id like to meet him soon at some show or meet so some one point towards him..
Then as soon as you get the chance you try taking the piss and making me look silly!!
Youve done this all to often before mate but tbh this time youve done it when all it has done is make you look really stupid!!!!
cheers danny
You also have gone totally of track and usually that means thats because im winning so you can say what you want..
As benni has said if you even took the time to read the very thread your posting on or many of the other 100s weve argued on you would clearly know that i never owned ep and where the fuck did you get afr from???lol
Because you have nothing to properly dig at me about your going to have to make shit up and that makes you look like a twat so carry on chipper!!!!!
Did you see what stu said above or are you more interested in trying to make fun of me again??
Also you keep saying you want to meet me??what a joke and you really dont know the sort of guy i am!!!!lol...
One minute i like dan but i dont like his practice...id like to meet him soon at some show or meet so some one point towards him..
Then as soon as you get the chance you try taking the piss and making me look silly!!
Youve done this all to often before mate but tbh this time youve done it when all it has done is make you look really stupid!!!!
cheers danny