Originally Posted by
botters
...and when presented with the facts on lukes map and the way it was almost a guesstimate as to what fuel and ignition to use at higher rpm due to not inputting the max boost level and/or not using the correct map sensor then in my eyes and probably others it is a poor map that could have been made a lot better
Originally Posted by
750hp escos
I repect what your saying but your still reading between the lines because the 3 bar map is still the map sensor of choice when mapping with webber so you are wrong to think its the wrong map sensor..
Secondly the top line is only wrong if the car sees det there which it didnt..
Its not a bad map unless it did cause damage which it has not imo
cheers danny
this is what still needs correcting, as people reading it that don't fully understand it may get the wrong impression, and that is all that i am concerned with. it's nothing personal against you or luke as i have not met you and am not so childish as to take sides against people as you seem to think
you cannot dispute that whilst a map with a much lower 'top line' than the boost seen on a rolling road may not have given problems on the rolling road (i.e. no det and good AFR), it is not the best way of doing it so i would never class it as 'good', and without proper road testing it would be unknown as to be 'not bad'.
the best way of doing it would have been to have suitable breakpoints to either cover the entire boost range if possible given the limitations of the MAP sensor, or to the maximum of the MAP sensor, whichever is greatest. that is indisputable fact. do you agree with that Danny?
the point is that if someone doing the mapping does not understand that simple principle then they are not very good at their job.
if they do understand that but choose not to bother because they are going through some personal problems, again they have not done a good job.
if they understand it, but don't know how to use the tools they have to change it, again they have not done a good job.
if they understand it but don't have the tools to change it, they should get some better tools in order to do a better job.
hopefully you can understand my point and agree it and we can draw a line under it as i'm starting to look more and more like chip posting
