Thumbwheel switch outputs?
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Thumbwheel switch outputs?
For my dash I need to have 4 buttons:
Up
Down
Select
Menu
I was wondering if anyone knows of a thumbwheel that gives an output I could use to do the first three all in one go?
Like for example I know that some car stereos stalk controls have a thumbwheel that you can push, so it has an up function and a down function and another one as well, but what sort of format is the output? Is it as simple as a common in and then 3 wires out or am I not going to get that lucky?
Up
Down
Select
Menu
I was wondering if anyone knows of a thumbwheel that gives an output I could use to do the first three all in one go?
Like for example I know that some car stereos stalk controls have a thumbwheel that you can push, so it has an up function and a down function and another one as well, but what sort of format is the output? Is it as simple as a common in and then 3 wires out or am I not going to get that lucky?
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I know it sounds stupid.
But would something out of an old Dual Shock PS2 controller do the trick?
Ignore, I just realised what a thumbwheel was.
What about getting one out of a mouse? And just get a small button for the menu.
But would something out of an old Dual Shock PS2 controller do the trick?
Ignore, I just realised what a thumbwheel was.
What about getting one out of a mouse? And just get a small button for the menu.
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What aboutusing a thumb wheel for the up and down and the self centering toggle switch for the select and menu ? failing that have a look at bmw steering wheel switches i think the have a press function or Audi .
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The issue with most other switches is they wont have a momentary action ?
You want a push to make non latching switch to make the screen change ?
I'd think most rotary or other would be latching ?
What about a small joystick type switch ? Should be able to get a 4 position that would do that ?
You want a push to make non latching switch to make the screen change ?
I'd think most rotary or other would be latching ?
What about a small joystick type switch ? Should be able to get a 4 position that would do that ?
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Yes a joystick type switch would probably be good, was just hoping for something i could stalk mount easily which made me think of the stereo control that have a thumbwheel but like nick says they are no doubt CAN, thanks for the input lads.
I guess other option is two buttons each side.
I guess other option is two buttons each side.
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What about finding a second hand head unit with a thumb stick of sorts and un picking it from the face plate . it should also have the press to select feature you were after ?
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what about something a bit like the BMW idrive controller ie some sort of knob with a press function? and maybe even more? maybe RS components/maplins do somehting like that?
wouldnt been on the steering wheel mind...
wouldnt been on the steering wheel mind...
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Thats essentially the same functionality as the thumbwheel im on about, turn one way for up, one for down and press to select.
Thats exactly what I want, but its a case of finding something where it has 4 pins:
common = pin 4
rotate one way = connect pin 1 to common
rotate other way = connect pin 2 to common
push button = connect pin 3 to common
thumbwheel is better than a idrive type dial as its easy to stalk mount (clio 172 has it for stereo control for example)
Thats exactly what I want, but its a case of finding something where it has 4 pins:
common = pin 4
rotate one way = connect pin 1 to common
rotate other way = connect pin 2 to common
push button = connect pin 3 to common
thumbwheel is better than a idrive type dial as its easy to stalk mount (clio 172 has it for stereo control for example)
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RS components has SOOOO much stuff it's a nightmare to browse. but perhaps something like this with a push output too? there must be somehting on there...
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/thumbw...tches/6932372/
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/thumbw...tches/6932372/
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Ps the 5 series E39 wiper stalks have a wheel for variable speed with a button on the side for wash. theyre CAN tho, plus the wheel isnt self centering
so actually thats a USELESS peice of informaiton
so actually thats a USELESS peice of informaiton
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These look very neat, but I think might be harder to operate while in the middle of a track sessions:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rocker-switches/2650168/
This looks like it might work well functionally though even if its not as pretty:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rocker-switches/7346867/
Not the wheel I had hoped for, but still easy to operate while driving
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rocker-switches/2650168/
This looks like it might work well functionally though even if its not as pretty:
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/rocker-switches/7346867/
Not the wheel I had hoped for, but still easy to operate while driving
Last edited by Chip; 30-04-2012 at 12:45 PM.
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i think that bottom one with a non-push wheel would be the perfect combo. big chunky, clicky wheel like the 12pot boost controllers with that nice chunky clicky button...
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Just asked one of our electronics guys, would need to build a control circuit, he rattled on about manchester encoding and stuff and generally lost me, TBH it sounds like a lot to go wrong just to have a wheel, he said just stick to a rocker type switch that does MOM-OFF-MOM instead, its simple and more impotantly reliable!
Plus only costs Ł1.43, lol
Plus only costs Ł1.43, lol
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i would speak to the guy on here with the 4wd civic turbo.
guy looks a genius with stuff like that.cant mind his name but he has got resto thread on the car.
guy looks a genius with stuff like that.cant mind his name but he has got resto thread on the car.
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I'd say in a race environment with gloves on a thumbwheel would be terrible anyway. Especially one you are trying to rotate without pushing, and also pushing to select different menus.
A joystick would be much easier and more accurate. Or as has been suggested, a pair of up/down rocker switches....much like electric window switches ?
A joystick would be much easier and more accurate. Or as has been suggested, a pair of up/down rocker switches....much like electric window switches ?
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I'd say in a race environment with gloves on a thumbwheel would be terrible anyway. Especially one you are trying to rotate without pushing, and also pushing to select different menus.
A joystick would be much easier and more accurate. Or as has been suggested, a pair of up/down rocker switches....much like electric window switches ?
A joystick would be much easier and more accurate. Or as has been suggested, a pair of up/down rocker switches....much like electric window switches ?
One of those cases of over thinking things I think
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A couple of electric window switches ( assuming not CAN ) would work well, especially if from that model of car. They'll already have a holder and be convenient to the driver ?
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Thats the guy i went to as he is a mate of a mate and he has managed to design a converter to use pretty much any stereo controls and convert it to control pretty much anything (the dash2 in my case). Top bloke and great part!
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