andy escos

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as title will it be any better than a 2wd manifold for mid 500hp use

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-RS-CO...6#ht_877wt_698

Fezman1

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at that price id be sceptical of quality. but - intersted to hear from people that have bought used an abused them.

ts.tm.jb.fingers

tubular manifolds are all good and well if you can get one that doesnt crack,best material to have one made from is inconel 625,thats what f1 exhaust are made from,normal stainless steel tends to crack under the high heat exchange,you will pay big bucks to have one made in inconel,imo stick with the 2wd for now,should do just fine

Cossie Sean

Andy, with a car of your spec i wouldnt use this manifold matey

plenty other manifolds come up for sale

ajamesc

I once got an xs power manifold like that from ebay and what a total piece of scrap that was! I wouldent of even used it as a paper wieght and it took me ages to get my money back! Stick with the 2wd one as good for 600bhp

andy escos

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i have seen the xs power ones & they are total crap .these look a much better quality .
i won one on ebay for Ł62 i shall see what it works like when i eventually get my escort on the road again .

tarry500

Wonder why it improves housepower, better to improve horsepower.

stevieturbo

It will probably perform worse, and it will definitely be less reliable.

Flanges will probably already be warped lol

Rod-Tarry

I know exactly where that will crack . Its similar in layout to one i used a few years back but mine cost 5 times that. It required welding every few months & it was a dead loss really. Inconel may be expensive but it works even my huge Turbo not cracking it after several years of abuse. its expensive at Ł3500 as always you get what you pay for.
Do you need one at that level.

ozmk1cos

Ł3500 for manifold makes a 2wd sound real good

andy escos

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it might be worse than the 2wd one ,the flanges are perfectly flat the welding is very good for what i won it for i got to try it .The problem i got is going over to group A chassis engine mounts i got about 5mm clearance which might melt the poly mounts & im married so am not aloud to spend Ł1000 on a custom manifold unless this option fails .

where do you think it will crack then Rod? I know you get what you pay for ,but some one has to try these things as no one can say i had one they are crap .i know they are not a patch on a primary designs one but as you said they are very expensive ,but this could be a cheap option for upto 600hp .
But this could be a good manifold for the money . i got it for Ł62 even at full price of Ł169 its worth a try .

andy escos

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stevieturbo

Doesnt look that bad really. Probably wont be any better than a 4x4 cast item, but still worth a shot.

Only issue might be the weight of the turbo hanging on it. Tubular manifolds dont hold the weight well and is one reason for breakages.

andy escos

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I will be using a turbo support bracket

Moonstone Steve.

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Also the resonance that crack them, Uncle Tony said to me that Ford changed the thickness of the flanges on the 2wd cast manifold from 8mm (early 3dr) to 10mm (later 3dr and saph) due to the resonance and breakages.
Tubular manifolds do look cool though.

Steve

andy escos

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The flanges on this one is 12mm thick so its off to a good start

Moonstone Steve.

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8mm and 12mm are bad, 10mm are spot on












Sorry i just made that up lol

Steve

andy escos

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Fook sake Steve lol

Spiky

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it has un equal lengths?

shouldnt they all be of equal length?

cheap though

andy escos

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yes ideally they should be all the same length but its similar style to the 4x4 manifold so should not be that bad .

Acidburn

worth a shot at that price, at worst at least you will be able to let others know how it performs, good luck

MAD Ade

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Correct! All primary's should be of equal length.

Fudgey

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I used an XS power nissan 200sx manifold on my zetec turbo, i cut the flange off and had a zetec one welded on.

you deffo need to brace them well, as well as the top id seriously consider fabricating a brace to hold the turbo from underneath aswell.

mine was absolutly fine for the 200 miles that it was in the car before the pikey cunts wrote it off.

it made 397bhp/386lbft so done the job for what i wanted.

admittedly the welding on the inside wasnt great, but it done the job and took a T4 lol