just spoken to oli at NMS on the phone about turbo's..
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just spoken to oli at NMS on the phone about turbo's..
As above, just gave oli a quick ring to check how my engine build is coming on, when it took the car up to NMS on saturday he said my turbo was leaking oil which it was..So i just rung him and he said he will get some prices on a few turbo's and get back to me..
I mentioned going for a Gt28 or T34 for the build but he said they both lack in punch and are a bit gutless..
My question is, what other turbo's are out there? What we will he ring me back saying do you think?
Bearing in mind this is for 300ish Bhp
Thanks, Joe
I mentioned going for a Gt28 or T34 for the build but he said they both lack in punch and are a bit gutless..
My question is, what other turbo's are out there? What we will he ring me back saying do you think?
Bearing in mind this is for 300ish Bhp
Thanks, Joe
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He just said he will get back to me about it, he may say a T34 i dont know but he just mentioned that they lack in punch so i couldnt think what he will come back with..I'll let you know tomorrow night what he said!
Staffi - I will let them decide what im doing, im not much of an expert on turbo's if im honest :/ They are building it and know best so ill just stay out of it ha..
Thanks, Joe
Staffi - I will let them decide what im doing, im not much of an expert on turbo's if im honest :/ They are building it and know best so ill just stay out of it ha..
Thanks, Joe
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nms seam to have funny ideas on engine specs and turbos from other posts i read from time to time .
they would not be my firts choice of tunner .
i am interested to see what turbo they tell you to use .
thanks steven
they would not be my firts choice of tunner .
i am interested to see what turbo they tell you to use .
thanks steven
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No problem pal, i was just saying for your power you want i find it VERY strange a T34 has been dismissed when it's proven..
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Ive never had any issues but its a bit like anything in life we all have choices.
Every car ive been in that they have spec'd has been phenominal and im not just saying that as i use them for my engine work. To be fair Karl knows his stuff.
Which is your engine i was only there today looking at stuff for my Escort
Every car ive been in that they have spec'd has been phenominal and im not just saying that as i use them for my engine work. To be fair Karl knows his stuff.
Which is your engine i was only there today looking at stuff for my Escort
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Sorry its for a 1.6 cvh. I didnt hear him wrong, he may have just been busy and in a rush, im sure he will come back to me with a T34 or something, i just mentioned GT28 and he said no and compared it to a T34..I wasnt moaning about it or anything, really i was just asking the question of 'is there anything else out there' because i didnt think there was really..
Thanks, Joe
Thanks, Joe
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Sorry its for a 1.6 cvh. I didnt hear him wrong, he may have just been busy and in a rush, im sure he will come back to me with a T34 or something, i just mentioned GT28 and he said no and compared it to a T34..I wasnt moaning about it or anything, really i was just asking the question of 'is there anything else out there' because i didnt think there was really..
Thanks, Joe
Thanks, Joe
Well that's even worse Joe, a T34 on a CVH will be great, i'm lost now...
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i spoke to oli once ( think it was bfor h startd working at nms) and i just got the impression h didnt wanna be talking to me
spoke to him a few times since and found him to be quite knowledgeable about his car and what works and what dont
spoke to him a few times since and found him to be quite knowledgeable about his car and what works and what dont
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Quite frankly you've got 2 options here.
1 listen to the man you're paying your money to, who has arguably produced and proved time and time again for many many years that he knows what he's doing with the engine you have chosen.
2 listen to the internet
By all means get peoples views but most of them wont agree with NMS because its the 'in thing' to do and has been for ages.
NMS is my first choice full stop and that wont ever change.
1 listen to the man you're paying your money to, who has arguably produced and proved time and time again for many many years that he knows what he's doing with the engine you have chosen.
2 listen to the internet
By all means get peoples views but most of them wont agree with NMS because its the 'in thing' to do and has been for ages.
NMS is my first choice full stop and that wont ever change.
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Shings you cant argue with that at all. My views exactly there always seems to be this whole negative thing surrounding them.
Oli knows plenty about the RS turbo's trust me. Karls knowledge of the cvh is second to none and many people cant hack that simple fact.
The other way of looking at things is they deal with plenty of idiots who want power for fuck all and just waste there time. Personally i wouldnt let anyone else tune my cvh no matter how much it costs.
Joe what ever turbo you end up with it will be correctly spec'd for your engine and thats all that matters
Oli knows plenty about the RS turbo's trust me. Karls knowledge of the cvh is second to none and many people cant hack that simple fact.
The other way of looking at things is they deal with plenty of idiots who want power for fuck all and just waste there time. Personally i wouldnt let anyone else tune my cvh no matter how much it costs.
Joe what ever turbo you end up with it will be correctly spec'd for your engine and thats all that matters
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I spoke to oli today, and we have agreed on a custom spec turbo, its based on a T34 but NMS make there own shafts and blades etc and don't have a name for it, so that explains it.
Thanks Joe
Thanks Joe
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best way to get 190-200hp (1.6cvh)
hi there, just reading with intrest joes thread on turbo's to suit his cvh (in excess of 350hp) and got me thinking, what turbo would be suitable and also what sort of work would be needed to get a good useable 190-200hp. i understand the valves are already big in a cvh and the std cam is very good. is it a good idea to have the cyl head ported or just blueprinted. i know the hp i mentioned is easy to obtain, im just intrested to hear how people go about it. still on mfi btw. cheers matt
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i totally agree, i'd definitely be thinking gt or another ball bearing turbo though, seems the gt25 is a good 300bhp turbo and the gt28 is a 350bhp turbo, on a given engine of course.
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you would think oli and karl would know whats best by now, it's not like it's the first one they have built. tim butch's car was just mint along with olie's own car, you would need to go a long way before it get's much better. with the efforts C&B went to and NMS pushing the top seeds up and up for many years they were great times and masive gains were made by both with there efforts.
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Because for only 300bhp a T34 would be a lag monster, plain and simple.
A good 300bhp turbo could have full boost around 2-2500rpm. Will a T34 do that ?
The OP would need to be very very specific about his goals, and his driving style and use for the car.
I think what NMS are saying is that 300bhp is gutless, and I'd pretty much agree. Compared to more power, it is gutless lol But does the OP want fast spooling low rpm torque ? A nice relaxed spread of power ? Is it a light or heavy vehicle ? What sort of traction ?
Closest comparison I can make is driving a friends Rousesport with a small turbo. And having the small turbo actually made it very nice for normal driving.. Was it quick ? No, but it was nice to drive. Far better compared to a standard car with the ancient old T3 yet overall they had the same power ( Rouse might have been slightly more actually )
So what does the driver of the car actually want ?
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Yes I would quite happily, he did just stand there looking confused and useless, If he didn't know the answer he should off got someone who could! I never said he was not a decent bloke as he probaly is he just wasn't helpfull that day, simple!