hi all
i have a mk3 2.0 duratec mondeo and my trusty 1.4 mk6 escort sitting side by side on the drive atm and was wondering just how hard is the conversion and what custom parts would i need to put the duratec into the escort..
i take it il need custom drive shafts and engine mounts and some ecu work but has anyone done this before any and all advice welcomed guys cheers

 

sorry can somebody move this into projects section plz

 

Why its "car related discussion" is it not? and its pretty general lol!



Its not a project if your only asking a question?

 

I helped my brother with putting the ST170 Duratec into a Mk6 Escort and loads of people said it was a piece of piss. I would like to say that's absolute bollocks and it took ages and some custom fabrication. Mind you this was compounded by the problem that his missus wouldn't let him ditch the air-conditioning.



Had to swap to an Escort sump, and at present it's running on a standard Mondeo ECU until the throttle bodies are fitted.

 

my bad hyndy just thought it was in the wrong section..
cheers oranoco was beginning to think nobody had done this and i sure didnt want to be the first and i plan to keep the ecu as its and ex cop car and goes like shit of the proverbial shovel and air con in n.ireland not gonna be an issue unless it stops rain lol

as far as the fab work anything super crazy to make as ive 3 years set aside for this project and two full cars there to rob bits off

 

Your duratec is different too the st170

You will need the gearbox from the Mondeo or a st150 box as they don't fit the old style bolt patterns

Also mounts, shafts, exhaust, hoses, ect ect

Loom and ecu too

 

The st170 is a blacktop zetec, with different head, different to mk3 mondeo engne

 

just to clarify its an 01 mondeo and i have the full car everything except the key (due to a lovely ex gf chucking it down a drain one night) its just a scrappy shell and ive been stealing suspension bits etc for my newer mondeos since
so if im reading your reply right i can use most of the standard stuff ie mainly shafts as i had an old 2.0 nova years ago and had unreal issues with the drive shafts but may have been my ignorance lol
thanks guys

 

Its not a straight swap, You need a mk3 mondeo mtx75 and rs2000 drive shafts.

A custom engine mount will need to be fabricated.

An aftermarket ecu will make the conversion alot easier.

The zetec engine will go in alot easier however the duratec is arguably a better engine....

 

Wont a 01 be a blacktop ?

 

Never mind just read it properly.

Oranaco

 

Never mind just read it properly.

Oranaco, how does it perform on a mondeo ecu ? Take it the vvt doesn't work ?

 

Am I the only one who realises that a proper duratec has a different bolt pattern and the mtx as above does NOT fit

So your only options are to use the Mondeo box or I would fit a st150 fiesta box mate better ratios

Also I'm sure you will need the shafts to be modded to have you outer cvs fitted

And as you know get a decent after Market ecu

And you will need custom mounts too

 

cheers all think im getting a decent idea of what i need so far

i will be using the mondeo gearbox as its sitting there and was put in fresh before the aforementioned key issue

shaft isues are as expected have a feeling im gonna suffer with that again but rs2000 should give me the best start point?

pardon my stupidity but the standard ecu would be my preferred option as i reckon thats where the cops have put the performance in and want to keep that if at all possible but i take it thats gonna be a splice into loom job ie f'ing nightmare

thanks everybody for the advice i want to make sure im starting with the right stuff before spending any cash

 

Mk3 mondeo comes with a mtx75 with durance bell housing. Also some later ones had the mtx85 6 speed.

Fiesta st is a ib5 with curated bell housing.

Just to clear things up

 

We manually dialled the cam in and it made 155bhp with perfect fueling. It's not a rocket but it goes well and it's still being developed. VVT was fiddled with using various microswitches etc but it always over advanced things, sounded mad though.

 

Oranoco,

Will Benin touch via pm. Have an st170 lump loom ect and a Rs 1800 set up. Would like to get it in my mk5 zetec s ideally

 

just to clarify can anybody give me some info on the ecu as would prefer to use the one on the duratec or am i heading towards wiring nightmares cheers

 

I will say one thing, if you can use an MTX75 box then do it if you plan on some decent power, rather than the 'easier' Fiests ST IB5+ gearbox.

The IB5 is not really that strong, plenty of peopled had them fail at very moderate power levels...replacing the diff does make them stronger (as well as bring the obvious benefits an LSD brings) but if you have a choice, stick with/go for MTX every day of the week

 

yeah mate sticking with the gearbox thats on the back of the engine simply because its there il be needing the cash for the custom stuff

and as u say why put a fiesta box on a mondeo engine dont make sense quite happy with the ratios on it was doing 145 in 4th so that will do me all day long and most of the night lol

 

You'll need rs2000 drive shafts and hubs.

I have some from a car im breaking if your intrested.

 

zippyobrien what you looking for the st running gear?

 

Not selling it pal, either gonna Chuck it as is into my zetec s , or look for a black top head and turbo it

 

would love some but still conneecting the dots atm mate and still have to convince my mechanic mate that he has time to help lol

cheers though

 

Thought the ib5 box would fit a duratec

 

sorry to revive an old thread peeps but has anyone on here actually done this conversion or knows of somebody with the duratec fitted to whatever as still need some advice on the ecu/loom side and bigger brakes also as want to do this once correctly
thanks