rsdan123

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Thinking of doing a fiesta zetec s turbo (mk5)
But wouldn't use the zetec se engine.... What engine mount would you use if you wanted to fit zetec e?? Would an rs1800 one work?? Is the mount on the turret the same??
Cheers for your help

rsfido_1989

Black top mount is similar mointing position to se (i think). Silvertop is a rear mount.. Im back to working on this atm. Im thinking uprated gearbox mounts and a modified cvh mount

rsfido_1989

O and you will need to weld onto the inner wing as there is no mount for it

youngben

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if you sign upto zsoc theres a 2.1 forged mk5 zs in imperial blue for sale now! silvertop engine its still being run in but worth a look! when you sign up this its the thread

http://www.zsoc.com/showthread.php?t=67939

for sale thread

http://www.zsoc.com/showthread.php?t=240132

pics







Some of the bits

1. Federal RSR Tyres
2. Avo fully adjustable coilovers
3. Rear Beam bushes, front anti rollbar uprated polyflex bushes
4. Full blue samco hose kit
5. Powerflex Exhaust Bushes
6. Powerflex Uprated front lower arm bushes
7. Vibra Technics Gearbox Mounts
8. Custom Rear Strut brace
9. Custom Flocked Dash
10. New front setup (new knuckles,bearings,hub assembly)
11. Ford OE Drop Links
12. Helix Clutch 210mm
13. Focus Rear disc conversion with mintex pads
14. New fuel tank
15. Hispec 4pot billet front brakes (285mm) with mintex pads
16. Uprated Master Cylinder and Servo
17. Fully stripped and painted engine bay
18. Omex 600 ECU
19. All new brake lines with Bias Adjuster
20. Mocal oil catch tank
21. 2056cc Zetec-E Engine
22. Supertech Forged Pistons
23. Eagle Forged Rods
24. Heavy Duty Main and Big end shells
25. ARP Rod bolts
26. Custom Baffled Sump
27. Bored, Honed, Decked Block (2.1)
28. Skimmed Head
29. Fully Balanced Bottom End
30. Refaced Flywheel
31. Hybrid T3 Turbo
32. Intercooler + pipework

rsdan123

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so you couldn't use a silver top block with the rs1800 engine mount then!

rsdan123

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Youngben,

Cheers but didnt wanna buy one!... Just have the urge to build a zetec turbo and always had a bit of a soft spot for the fiesta zetec s on escort cosworth wheels

That one does look clean tho

JayCC

How much is the above one out of interest?

rsfido_1989

Need to weld in a mk3 fiesta engine mount to use silver top. Also need a different gear box as the starter is in the wrong place.

rsdan123

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Jay, one above is 4000ono

rsfido_1989, Yeah had been thinking about boxes, some focus have rear starters. cheers for your help anyway

youngben

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Hes asking for Ł4k which based on spec and effort put in is very reasonable! jamsport quote Ł6500 to put a focus rs engine in a zetec-s thats just to put one in!!

rsfido_1989

Mk5 fiesta endura box or a diesel box..i have both to test actually lol

JayCC

Yet to supply and fit a Supercharger to a Fiesta ST, it's only about 4k(ish)!!

No thanks to either..

mk1trb

whys that? zetec e have both front and rear mount starters and dont the fiestas use a ib5??

rsfido_1989

From my research it wont fit. You can fitna ka bellhousing onto a zs box to.fit it but a zs box wont fit... Ill find the link to where infound that out... If im wrong ill take the punishment like a man haha

rsfido_1989

Sorry slight reword... On a turbo aplication the starter 'may' be in the way but Na should be ok... I have all the boxes to try... Sorry for any bad advise iv been looking into it for a lil while on and off.

rsfido_1989

And finally... It will fit... Sorry... Iv cocked up and gone all mo bent rims and started chatting bollocks... Ill just hush as i got confused with info i had got

mk1trb

dnt worry mate, everyone gets things wrong time to time, i been thinking about this latley too as i really like the mk5 zs, just the engine mounting im confused with, surely it would be the zetec mk3 fitted to the mk5 shell? but also got to worry about what to do with the power steering, rad, intercooler as behind the bumper the mk5 is nothing like a mk3, tried looking at other build thread including one above but can seem to find much info on way things are fitted.

rsfido_1989

they are great little cars, this is my 2nd one now altho this is a project not a daily. yes its a zetec like the mk3 had fitted into the mk5. im looking for a mk3 fiesta to cut the inner wing mount off at my scrappy or i have also considered a modified cvh mount on a custom welded inner wing mount.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-SIERR...6#ht_986wt_952

this is the kind of rad im looking at as i wont be using the lower rad hanger, ill weld mounts for this.
im not worried about power steering so manual rack or also some people keep but pack with grease the power rack for a quicker lock to lock.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNIVERSAL-...#ht_500wt_1202

this is the style of intercooler im looking into so sit in the bumper under the number plate as there is a ideal space for it.

hope thats been more helpful than my other shite i started off with lol

zippyobrien

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Zs box won't fit. Bell housing is diff and starter will hit exhaust Mani.

Mk4 or 5 derv bell housing is what you need, puma box with this bell housing is best set up.

Mk3.5 Cvh inner wing mount is closest match to retro fit.

You can also use a mk6 escort long shaft to ditch the equal length shaft set up

Don't forget to upgrade the fuel pump. And need to go to mk4 fiesta dash clocks to get running on a frst loom ( if you want the rev counter and water temp to work

rsfido_1989

hell yes i knew someone told me it wouldnt fit but others on zsoc claim it does fit, dont feel as bad now lol, iv got the derv and endura box for building.. puma box when i kill them

Churtz

Yeh I've been there done that with the boxes. I'm running a 1.3 endura casing from mk4 with puma internals. Although I'm now supercharged not turbod so could probe get away with either

rsfido_1989

you got a mk5 with a zetec?

Churtz

It's a mk4....but engine bay is the same. I've got a 2.0 blacktop zetec with a supercharger.

I found the blacktop to be a more stable engine in there due to the positioning of the os engine mount.

Matt

rsfido_1989

Nice one. Got any pics... Inclu engine mount

zippyobrien

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As above. I'd be interested. Got a puma powered Zs and fancy chucking a 2.0 black top in. Been looking at the pin outs on a Zs and focus ecu and they look v similar. Might be able to use standard loom

Churtz

I can get u some pics at the weekend if u like. I'm running aftermarket management so didn't worry about matching looms.

Matt

rsfido_1989

Nice one. Iv looked into omex on mine. I just need some.money to.do it!

mk1trb

we fitted a mk5 zetec s box to a zetec without issue though, bolted straight on and starter was in same place as the original was on the zetec?? if thats true guy sold him the wrong box lol

zippyobrien

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Almost 100% sure zetec se have slightly different bell housing patterns. Either way they don't fit due to starter motor position

mk1trb

later zetec e's have rear mounted starter motors though

Glenn_

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Ive always wanted to put a 2ltr zetec turbo in a mk5 fiesta.

I would i loved to of put on in the wifes old mk5 5 door fiesta ghia.

zippyobrien

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It's the gear box which dictates the starter position not the engine

Cossie Sean

Motorscope built one years and years ago, i was shocked when i seen it, must have been one of the first done, 2001 IIRC