fatboyz

bit of a odd one a mate of mine had a saxo vtr (sorry not a ford)with a fancy body kit custom candy pearl paint and a turbo strapped to it hes now been band from driving so wants to take the engine out for a track car but is selling whats left and my girlfriends little bro is 15 is looking for a first car to do up (and can get it cheap cheap) if hes puts a 1.1 in it will the insurance still be loads ???or could he re register it as a 1.1

Fiddy

He can deffinatly change the engine size with the dvla, and have it as 1.1 on the log book, as for the insurance, i have no idea.

Joshy

insurrence wouldent be any cheaper than a standard VTR engine IMO

Iain Mac

It's already a modified car so the insurance won't want to cover him without an arm, a leg, and possibly a kidney too.

Putting the smaller engine in could possibly be worse than a standard car.

7sean7m7

You can, you just send off a report to say the work has been done. It wont come down much though i dont think.

Fiesta_Jed

It will make the insurance more expensive.

ontheway

insurance will be more expensive than a standard vtr

stevieturbo

It's a modified car, and we know how insurers love them. Whether the mods are safer or worse.

If you can get full documented evidence of the change, full engineers report etc then yes you can do what you like.

But dont see how it would be worth the hassle. Just buy a better cheaper car already with a smaller engine..

Fiesta_Jed

It might be cheaper for him to insure a vtr rather than a 1.1

Think about the amount of 17 year olds that have crashed 1.1's compared to the amount of 17 year olds that have crashed a vtr ?

Fil

No as it will be...... modified

Maxwell

I dont understand wankers who do this!!! There is a spastic who tore apart a nice wee black 106 gti and put fucking hydraulics, superlights and a 1.5 diesel engine in it!!

Why not kit a 1.5 and wreck it....not a gti fuck sake!

stevieturbo

They're all french dung anyway. Might be best weighing it in for scrap and putting the money towards something good.

Oranoco

Sounds like a typical chav wagon, crush the fucker and do the motoring community a favour.

If he wants to drive it again it will cost an arm and a bollock and an engine swap, even for smaller engine will do very littl eif anything at all.

It's modified and he'll be coming off a ban, roll the dice and count the zeros on the premium

fuzzy

he doesnt want to drive it again, he wants to sell it to his girlfriends little brother to do up until hes old enough to drive. i suppose since hes only 15 that gives him plenty of time to remove all the stuff thats going to cost him a fortune insurance wise when he is able to drive it.personally id say it wouldnt be worth the bother .

Oranoco

Oops, didn't read that bit. First car though the lad is in cloud cuckoo land. 17 year old with a VTR ŁŁŁŁŁŁŁŁ

He'll have to get used to the idea very very quickly that he will be looking at poverty spec basic cars and even then it will be a small mortgage to insure

St3V3_C

You mean 17 yo with a 1.1

And lol at all you quickly forgetting what you were like at 17...

Oranoco

It says VTR on the logbook, with a 1.1 in it it becomes a modified VTR ŁŁŁŁ

I haven't forgotten what I was like at 17, insurance wasn't as stupidly insane then though for new drivers. Think my first car cost Ł800 to insure

St3V3_C

I meant the pissing about with cars bit really.

If he can find someone who will assess it for what it is, he might be ok. He will probably have to agree that anything the insurance replaces will be standard kit though, not all the fiberglass shite.

fuzzy

when i was 17 everything wasnt computer linked and cross checkable.....my first legalish car upon passing my test at 24 was a toyota celica at Ł2500 a year insurance.which is why i didnt have any.
that was 17 years ago though and in those days it was easy to knock up fake insurance docs to present at police stations when required. obviously i wouldnt recommend doing such a thing now.its not big and its not clever.
at that age now unless your parents are rich its a 1.1 basic little car for a couple of years until you prove yourself.

Oranoco

Err... I'm 35 now and still pissing about with them

St3V3_C

But you're not doing the chav mods that you used to at the age of 17 are you ??? And you did do them - don't lie to me lol

Or, maybe you still are

dojj

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as said, it will be a modified vtr, regardless of what mods have been done to it which wil lmake it more expensive to insure