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Old 15-12-2011 | 08:29 PM
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I've decided I'm keeping my civic for a while.
So I want to know what tuning mods work?
And which ones are forum hype only?
For example do I need to go for k pro or just get the guy that does all the mapping at FST do it for me?
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Originally Posted by 749steve
I've decided I'm keeping my civic for a while.
So I want to know what tuning mods work?
And which ones are forum hype only?
For example do I need to go for k pro or just get the guy that does all the mapping at FST do it for me?
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Boost - works

bolt on shite - doesn't work
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Boost - works

bolt on shite - doesn't work
Like it.
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Boost - works

bolt on shite - doesn't work
Boost doesn't work as I don't have a turbo!
And I don't want one
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Originally Posted by 749steve
I've decided I'm keeping my civic for a while.
So I want to know what tuning mods work?
And which ones are forum hype only?
For example do I need to go for k pro or just get the guy that does all the mapping at FST do it for me?
Kpro is your best bet, there 24 fuel maps and 24 timing maps alone on the K20! (tbh though this is overkill)

Originally Posted by 749steve
Boost doesn't work as I don't have a turbo!
And I don't want one
Sadly the above is the only way to go fast. Yes, you can get upto 50hp more out of the stock engine for around £2000-2500, but for £5000 you can get 200hp gain, with much better torque, spread of power and fuel economy.
250hp would keep you happy for about a week.
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Originally Posted by 749steve
Boost doesn't work as I don't have a turbo!
And I don't want one
Then enjoy small gains in horsepower vs big wad's of money to see such gains

P.s. Superchargers also make boost - jus sayin

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dont bother...if your only keeping it for "a while" save the cash and spunk it on a faster motor later on
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I don't want massive power, just to free up a few extra horses
Am I better fitting a LSD or tuning?
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dont bother...if your only keeping it for "a while" save the cash and spunk it on a faster motor later on
I've had faster motors in the past (320bhp saph was one of them) but I wanted a bit of reliability which is why I bought a Honda.
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Originally Posted by 749steve
I don't want massive power, just to free up a few extra horses
Am I better fitting a LSD or tuning?
LSD is pointless for standard power imo, either turbo/charge it, or just give it abit more noise
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I've currently got a japspeed shorty manifold, standard cat(to keep it legal),piper 2.5" bore cat back system. And a modified/drilled airbox with a cone filter fitted inside.
Do RBC manifolds really make a differance?
Is the kpro the best option or would a custom map be better
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get some throttle bodies on there a fella round my way has a type r running these it sounds bloody insane
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For decent power increase you need to spend big.

For fast road spend your money on a good suspension set up and updated brakes.

For track use same as fast road but add 4 pots, decat, LSD, oil cooler and a baffled sump.
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Originally Posted by bluntys1rsturbo
get some throttle bodies on there a fella round my way has a type r running these it sounds bloody insane
Throttle bodies on a K20 sound absolutely epic, but the gains are small.
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Originally Posted by Paul1982sco
For decent power increase you need to spend big.

For fast road spend your money on a good suspension set up and updated brakes.

For track use same as fast road but add 4 pots, decat, LSD, oil cooler and a baffled sump.
All ready have, I have HSD coilovers with adjustable arms and it's been set up fast road geometry
I also have brembo 4 pots with 325mm drilled and grooved discs

Here is a link to the thread on my car
https://passionford.com/forum/restor...ic-type-r.html

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Nice spec so far. Without going into daft money a induction kit like a Gruppe M of J's Racing style, LSD, oil cooler,baffled sump would make it a really good all rounder. Without going forced induction your looking at cams or NOS but again crazy money for very little gain.

Mate has a 310bhp Cosmic Grey 1 with a Jackson Charger, K-Pro, IPS cams, Tokco suspension, DC and Progress braces, 4pot brakes with custom bells and discs, Quafie LSD, J's induction kit and exhaust manifold, custom 3inch manifold back exhaust.
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Your problem mate is the k20 is highly tuned from the factory, so you will need to spend quite a bit to get anything

I would spend 3k and have a supercharger conversion

Or throttle bodies, cams, and decat, just keep your old cat for mot to swap over

Good luck what ever you decide

A mate of mine had a 350bhp turbo one and easily sat with my mate 430bhp mk2 frs
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Originally Posted by Paul1982sco
a induction kit like a Gruppe M of J's Racing style.
I wouldn't get any extra air flow than what I've already got with my two cold air feeds and my cone filter in the airbox. And im not into cutting my scuttle panel and bolting a scoop on it

I had mentioned LSD earlier in this thread as I thought getting the power down better will make it nicer/faster on the road. But someone said not too bother
But I don't want to spend silly money as I've already spent over 2k on the car since I bought it
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friend has a quaife diff on his along with a toda exhaust and inlet manifold, cpl racing honda data ecu stop tech brakes running approx 250bhp.goes realy well both on rd and track
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Trust me it makes a whole lot of difference with the LSD. Not a fan of the Gruppe M either that's why I prefer the J's as its fed from the front grill, for cheap power NOS is your best bet.
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I'd drop in a fruity MFactory final drive if you're not planning to boost the engine at any point... no point being geared for 160-170mph (at a guess?) unless you can get there without holding it on WOT for long periods. I'd gladly sacrifice a willy waving top speed to gain more useful improvements through the gears.

While the box was out, I'd also drop in an LSD and uprate the clutch/flywheel.


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what rubber have you got on it?
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
I'd drop in a fruity MFactory final drive if you're not planning to boost the engine at any point... no point being geared for 160-170mph (at a guess?) unless you can get there without holding it on WOT for long periods. I'd gladly sacrifice a willy waving top speed to gain more useful improvements through the gears.

While the box was out, I'd also drop in an LSD and uprate the clutch/flywheel.


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The gears are pretty close anyway, you gain 20mph per gear which is about right IMO. Any closer I reckon you'd lose time on the shifts.

If you don't want to go turbo i'd save the money and put it towards a new car. Spending 500-£2000 on mods won't make a lot of difference at all.
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These engines are only vaugely good if you ram a load of boost down then.
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