maybe in a fair race lol but its not always fair people on the road have very different levels of skill like say take the same 2 cars put the stig in one lol and average joes mum in the other who would be faster off the line

 

I have had first hand experience of a stage 3 cossie racing a turbo corsa, my 3 door runs 330ish on a good day and my mates turbo corsa had about 250-270 ish on an equally good day, I'd leave him standing for all of a few car lengths till he got grip then he was off, always faster than my car but mines is a fully trimmed road car and his has nothing inside, plastic windows, fibreglass bonnet and boot

 

page ten chaps...

 

Does the averages Joe's mum engage in many races on the road?

TBH any sort of racing on the road tends to be more determined in terms of outcome by who is more of a prick and hence prepared to take bigger chances with other people's lives.

Keep the racing on the tracks IMHO

 

Your right average joes mum wouldent but the point was there is many different levels of driving skill about and skill plays a big part in getting a car off the line too its best lol. And unforchantly most poeple who tune there road cars do race them on the roads!

 

The gearing can also help the grip, large diameter rear wheels have helped mine & i chose a very long first gear. Have tried the low gearing means better accleration theory it dont work with my Power/Torque just stands there & shreds the tyres . Optimum gearing is when you can come off the line with grip in my car thats very high.
At the limiter can run 67 in 1st, 102 in 2nd, 151 in 3rd, 193 in 4th & i have the Power to pull them, devastating in gear on the road. Grab second off a roundabout & it almost stands on end, accleration is so fierce.
I would love to meet MO just the once, im sure Yum would simply destroy him but i may just shut him up .

 

rod does your motor have 5 gears or is the 5th just for cruising. Do v ever get bored of the acceleration and crave more constantly or do u get to a point and say yer my car is fast but i want it to feel more sturdy or comfy to drive etc??

 

Jesus wept!!

 

you wouldnt because as soon as i see u and you think hmmmm "is that mo?" ill already be gone lol

 

another question serious rod.. if you and martin both came across eachother on say the lights ... both revved up and shot off what will be quicker??? like over a short dual carriagway

 

keep your eyes out mo, black sti coming for ya gonna drop you like a bad habit lol

 

oh really? in your dreams ..

 

going to start singing scooby dooby do where are you.. when i see any sti coming from anywhere is like there invisible i dont no why but when they come in my mirror they just dissapear

 

im not trying to have a dig at you but you dont know what spec the sti is

 

Yo your sti is rappid iv seen your cars lovelee mate

 

iv met him just aint seen this though yet

 

lol not many seen it yet tbh, getting specd up to deal with mo

billet turbo soon

 

what sort of hp? spill....

 

your going to need alot more than just a billet turbo messin bud whats the spec anyway ? hope your uprating the gearbox?

 

youll be able to give a detailed description of the rear end of the car when we next bump into eachother lol

 

is it a classic luko?

 

lol wakey wakey mate

 

na bud 2005 widetrack

 

yum is making a comeback !!

 

lmao mo you kill me

can i order some 'mo mototsport developments' stickers to make it look faster

Ł9.99 + vat still?

 

post a pic then of this imaginary sti

 

good things come to those who wait lmao

 

have you ever spelt SUB ARU backwards? try it

 

lmao re-arrange the letters E S C O R T

if you need help ask an adult lol

 

think scoobys are quicker if you dont start the engine .

 

Mo, back to your question on Rod and Martin.

Martin would pull away quicker but Rod would overtake him a some point. It depends how long the road is

 

hmm now has anybody got the timing for martins car.. could work out how long it would take on a road for rod to overtake it

 

If the dual carriageway was a quarter mile long Martin would be in front by a few car lengths, if it was half a mile long Rod would be in front by a few car lengths.

If it was 1.5 miles long, then Rod would win by about half a mile or so IIRC from their datron sheets.

If it was a few miles long, Rod could probably sit at a standstill, wait for martin to fly past at 70mph, start the race then with martin accelerating from 70 and Rod from a stand still and still beat him.

Rod's car isnt a bit quicker than martins in a straight line, its a LOT quicker, especially at higher speeds, the faster they go, the bigger the advantage Rod's extra power gives him.
At 200mph for example, martin only has a couple of hundred bhp to accelerate with, but rod has over 300, so 50% more and if he uses the nitrous then he has over 400, so twice as much.


I would imagine martin couldnt give a shit about how fast his car accelerated above 200mph of course, as I know that I personally couldnt as Im into trackdays which I know martin is too and 150mph is about as quick as I ever want to be going on a racetrack with a corner coming up anyway, so Im not in anyway slagging martins car off, I think its awesome and I thoroughly enjoyed the time he took me out on track in it, one of my favourite cars ever, but when talking about the specific discipline of longer straightline races, Rod's is on a completely different level performance wise.

 

The crossover would happen somewhere between the 1/4 and the 1/2 mile points IIRC
From there on in, Rod would just pull a bigger and bigger lead until one of them ran out of road, ran out of fuel, or decided to back off or had an engine failure.

It would take under a minute from a standstill for Rod to be so far in front that you wouldnt be able to tell what car it was anymore as it would be too far away to know anymore than "its white"

 

so both cars on road martin would be quicker then? say for example a 3 dual cariageways with roundabouts in between them .. like you say though both cars are different so maybe i shouldnt compare em

 

its like a rs turbo vs a lambo, the lambo will kill the rs turbo

 

I dont think either of them are enough of a prick to get anywhere near to using their cars full potential on the road in an urban situation like you are talking about, what you seem to fail to grasp is that from a standing start to a roundabout half a mile away Rod's car is capable of getting upto 180mph, which doesnt really gel well with members of the public doing 30mph.

Its kind of like discussing who out of David Haye and Nikolay Valuev would be better at hitting the punchball in a local amusement arcade, its just irrelevant as both would have far more power than needed to max it out anyway, likewise Martin and Rod both have far too much power to use fully on the road in those sort of situations.
Because you havent ever been in a genuinely fast car (ie 0-200mph in 35 seconds like martins let alone 0-200mph in 24 like rods IIRC) you dont seem to grasp what its actually going to be like attempting to use one for the sort of silly little chav "races" you get involved with.

 

really well put above

 

true chip just slowing down from 120to 70is bad enough,let alone 200 to 70! U would need a monster set of brakes for that and to keep in a straight line when breaking

 

That was the least of the problems! Rod had problems with his discs cracking due to the huge temperature extremes, i.e. cold to hot which is what lead to the cracking!

Martin