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Old 14-01-2012, 10:34 AM
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a t38 car will maybe still have a bit now up and go compared to a t4 car,
but once the t4 gets to 80-90mph it ll really start to work,
i know i could nt work with my mates t34 car til after 90mph or so, i m on a tt t38,
but that was the last engine, should be a different story now
Old 14-01-2012, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DAN400
a t38 car will maybe still have a bit now up and go compared to a t4 car,
but once the t4 gets to 80-90mph it ll really start to work,
i know i could nt work with my mates t34 car til after 90mph or so, i m on a tt t38,
but that was the last engine, should be a different story now
Even at 80-90 with our old specs mine just used to pull away

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Old 14-01-2012, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
That 4i is a very quick well specced car....just don't tell the Lanky twat that owns it though as his head is to big already lol

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
To be fair Steve's car is a good benchmark to beat, well proven to deliver the power on every dyno day so if the taxi can be faster then i will be well pleased.........He on the other hand will be proper pissed off

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Thanks Steve

You should have at least 40bhp than mine after they are both set up again.

Mine might still give you a hard time until silly silly speeds lol

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when will moonstone steve s new engine be ready?
be really interesting to see how the 4i goes against it then,
might even come over to watch lol
Old 14-01-2012, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DAN400
when will moonstone steve s new engine be ready?
be really interesting to see how the 4i goes against it then,
might even come over to watch lol
It wants to be done before April as we are both booked in for a RR Day with the Kent RSOC

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Old 14-01-2012, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by lukeytheduke
I've never even looked into the rs500 block! Im quite narrow minded in the info i take in. Usually its 205 block as that relates to me. Same with escos i know the big turbo and little turbo all have diffdrent bits but what they are apart from etc i got no idea

So whats diff between roller bearing and journal bearing??
And on that note Luke who ever you choose to map your car ask them what is required and not on here - no disrespect to anyone as their are many different high spec cars all with different spec's so you could take advice here and roll up at the mappers and for them to say it' all wrong.

For example Steve's 4i has every top bolt on part going and is crying out for his 200 bottom end to work with the turbo where as you may just have a standard head & engine which is useless on a TT38 even a UT T38 (cr spec) you can't just put a turbo on and expect it to work.

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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
It wants to be done before April as we are both booked in for a RR Day with the Kent RSOC

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I'm not going to rushing my build just because its booked for a RR, it will take as long as funds allow really, and lets face it a 500 bhp build don't come cheap as this time its being done right. And I would like to think that my T4 flat out will make more than 510 bhp on its new spec engine.

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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
Even at 80-90 with our old specs mine just used to pull away

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Not when mine was in the right gear, anyway thats been done to death, your new spec against my correct spec for a T4, we shall see what happens

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
I'm not going to rushing my build just because its booked for a RR, it will take as long as funds allow really, and lets face it a 500 bhp build don't come cheap as this time its being done right. And I would like to think that my T4 flat out will make more than 510 bhp on its new spec engine.

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Steve 4 or 8 injector? what does Tony recommend on your spec as old skool spec is proven
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thats right brammer, my last engine had a standard head and bd 10s, with the tt t38, it made 420 bhp,
i did go ok , but now i ve a proper ported head , cams ,pistons etc etc
i m still running in atm but already the difference is unreal, i gave it a bit off a blast in 5th gear the other night and tbh i scared the shit outa me and that was on low boost and still needing mapped
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Chris, T4, 83's ported head, his inlet cam, std exhaust cam, little lower than std comp, hart inlet, lots of booooooooost lol.

Oh and his magic wand

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Originally Posted by R5FORD
Harveys mapping your engine?
Old 14-01-2012, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Chris, T4, 83's ported head, his inlet cam, std exhaust cam, little lower than std comp, hart inlet, lots of booooooooost lol.

Oh and his magic wand

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Chris, T4, 83's ported head, his inlet cam, std exhaust cam, little lower than std comp, hart inlet, lots of booooooooost lol.

Oh and his magic wand

Steve
Sound good Mr Moanstone.
Old 14-01-2012, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Sound good Mr Moanstone.
It should be a handful hopefully Kev, will see which cooler to get once the 100mm Airtec has been tested enough.

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
It should be a handful hopefully Kev, will see which cooler to get once the 100mm Airtec has been tested enough.

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Do you not fancy the new style ones then Steve ?
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That is the 100mm one Kev.

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
That is the 100mm one Kev.

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As in the spec-r "copy" ?
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
As in the spec-r "copy" ?
but by the word copy is it a direct copy of materials ect i doubt it hey
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That is the one, and no it doesn't use the garrett core

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I'm waiting on results too,getting live mapped in April so hopefully they'll be tested before then.
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
That is the one, and no it doesn't use the garrett core

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Mine does

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
That is the one, and no it doesn't use the garrett core

Steve
so is it the same but its a badly copied replica then steve
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Originally Posted by cossie4i_
Mine does

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lol they aint changed much by the sound of it steve cheap chianese cores ect lol you have to love cheaper thing hey
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Originally Posted by Sanchez_
lol they aint changed much by the sound of it steve cheap chianese cores ect lol you have to love cheaper thing hey
Cheap ain't always the best but its good

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Cores are made in the UK - design is from other coolers that have been used for years on both Jap and Scandinavian cars, Pete and Mark think they own the design but they don't they just brought it to the UK market and unlucky for Pete he'll sell the same amount this year that AS sell on the launch day
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Reading James's post they are in short supply.

Im sure Pete sells a few more than people know

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Originally Posted by cossie4i_

Im sure Pete sells a few more than people know
I'd hate to think what the waiting time is then
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Until we see any test results then all the slating about cheap Chinese cores is just bollox imo. Tbh on the road my 70mm cooler has always kept things under control and recovered quick time, it will be getting the larger pipes fitted which Steve did on his for the back to back test with the spec R cooler.

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Until we see any test results then all the slating about cheap Chinese cores is just bollox imo. Tbh on the road my 70mm cooler has always kept things under control and recovered quick time, it will be getting the larger pipes fitted which Steve did on his for the back to back test with the spec R cooler.

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Well said Steve.
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Until we see any test results then all the slating about cheap Chinese cores is just bollox imo. Tbh on the road my 70mm cooler has always kept things under control and recovered quick time, it will be getting the larger pipes fitted which Steve did on his for the back to back test with the spec R cooler.

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they will be the cheapest chinese cores steve believe me and tbh even a old pace cooler or a forge motorsport rs500 type will cope with road cars as there never ragged or held flat enough to make a difference as the average 2 min blast down a country road or a rolling road isnt a realistic test ! but a 20 min track race will be a better test with a car above 500bhp so temps will get high to see how it goes
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Well said Steve.
it would be if it was factual lol !! the only tests done so far are on mickey mouse dyno runs so they will recover easily like i say get some heat around them to so how they work id also like to see a pressure measurement done to see what the difference is to
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If the spec R uses the bar and plate design and the airtec uses a bar and plate design who is to say the airtec is useless??????

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
If the spec R uses the bar and plate design and the airtec uses a bar and plate design who is to say the airtec is useless??????

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no one is saying its useless bud just a cheapo copy
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All good then if it performs well.

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