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Old 28-07-2011, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Lairy cams do of course make a difference as they not only create charge dilution at low piston speeds but they also drop the intake velocity down drastically which greatly affects mixture distribution. The affect on mixture distribution often needs to be offset somewhat by an excellent quality plug with a bigger gap. I am sure you have all noticed a quality Iridium plug with run a CVH and a YB better at 15:1 that some iron girder like 071 or C57 plug that make them sound like they are hunting at idle and cruise? You wouldn't be mapping too rich to save fitting good spark plugs and ignition systems obviously... LOL

The interesting thing I note from all the mappers on this topic talking about the engine likes this AFR, and it dislikes that AFR, etc, is that nobody has mentioned they adjust the fuelling tables and then the spark lead tables?

You guys do know the combustion initiation and burn speed at 13:1 is different to 14.x and 15.x:1 don't you? You cant just dial fuel in and say.. "Ah, thats better" what you probably did, was correct an incorrect advance map by changing the burn speed to something more suited to your spark map so of course it sounds better.

I am sure the missing spark advance discussion was just an oversight of course...
Just to add my input on this topic, my CVH idles at 14.0 and cruises around 14.7 with no problems, but it didnt used to until I increased my cruise advance to high 30's (FYI idle adv is 12).

Interesting point about the plugs Stu, can you recommend me an Iridium plug for my CVH please? I currently use NGK BCR8E's

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IK27s suit the CVH very well we use them alot and have good resuts with them.
Old 28-07-2011, 05:58 PM
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Thanks James, do you guys sell them?
Old 28-07-2011, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Thanks James, do you guys sell them?
Yes they do go to: http://shop.motorsport-developments.co.uk/index.asp
You will find them there.
Old 28-07-2011, 09:38 PM
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reference the afr gauges, any recommendations/advice? Aem seems to be the only one getting some positive feedback.
Old 28-07-2011, 09:56 PM
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Are the IK27's a good upgrade from BCR8ES's? As I run the NGK's in my mini and they cause it to miss at low rpm, high load
Old 28-07-2011, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SiZT
Are the IK27's a good upgrade from BCR8ES's? As I run the NGK's in my mini and they cause it to miss at low rpm, high load
I always use BCR8ES in my Sapph and never had an issue with them?? Always gapped to 0.6mm and it ran 36psi with no miss anywhere in the rev range.
Old 29-07-2011, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Just to add my input on this topic, my CVH idles at 14.0 and cruises around 14.7 with no problems, but it didnt used to until I increased my cruise advance to high 30's (FYI idle adv is 12).
Good man, sounds about right mate, if your going to do it, do it properly.
Old 29-07-2011, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by scotty4130
reference the afr gauges, any recommendations/advice? Aem seems to be the only one getting some positive feedback.
like some recommendations too here
Old 29-07-2011, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by scotty4130
reference the afr gauges, any recommendations/advice? Aem seems to be the only one getting some positive feedback.
I dont think the aem one is any better than the other average ones out there, The NGK with the NTK sensor is the best of the cheap brand units.

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Old 29-07-2011, 07:00 PM
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ive had a stack from rainbird and got an aem now and they are both within 0.2 of expensive ones
Old 29-07-2011, 09:21 PM
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just ordered an AEM gauge today off of ebat, to replace my aging wideband
Old 30-07-2011, 09:17 AM
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my aem saved the supra engine once already so an absolute bargain at Ł130 and a must on any tuned car imo.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Good man, sounds about right mate, if your going to do it, do it properly.
Cheers Stu!
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Your very welcome mate.
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Originally Posted by scotty4130
reference the afr gauges, any recommendations/advice? Aem seems to be the only one getting some positive feedback.
Totally depends how much you want to pay and what accuracy you are willing to accept.
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
IK27s suit the CVH very well we use them alot and have good resuts with them.
Just ordered a set of these from you guys, be interesting to see the difference to my NGK's
Old 11-09-2011, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Just ordered a set of these from you guys, be interesting to see the difference to my NGK's
Thanks for your business mate, its always appreciated.
Old 11-09-2011, 12:58 PM
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i have always used this http://www.zeitronix.com/order/order.htm never missed a beat in 7 years unlike all innovate shite i tried before
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