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Old 15-07-2011, 10:24 AM
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I know that seems a stupid question

However, I've noticed a trend that I don't understand. To me, a coupe is a car with two doors, that is long, sleek and sporty. Examples that spring to mind are the Honda Prelude, Toyota Celica, MR2, Fiat Coupe, 406 Coupe etc etc.

However, I'm sat watching TV and an episode of Fifth Gear comes on, and they do a test of a two eco-coupes, one of which is a Citroen DS3?! That's a hatchback?!

Then you look at the auto industry more widely. The Audi A5? Apparently that's a "four door coupe". Is it? It just looks like a saloon to me with slightly more swooping lines...

How about the VW Scirocco? Alfa Romeo Brera? Both nice looking cars, don't get me wrong, but not coupes; just pretty three door hatches?

Am I the only person that finds this utterly ridiculous? Manufacturers just seem to be chucking the coupe label onto anything and everything to try and make it look interesting.

Perhaps a slightly pointless thing to worry about, but never mind

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mk polo coupe?

A coupé or coupe (from the french verb couper, to cut) is a closed body stye (permanently attached fixed roof), the precise definition of which varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, and over time. Coupés are often hardtopped sports car or sporty variants of saloon body styles, with doors commonly reduced from four to two, and a closed-coupled interior (i.e., the rear seat placed further forward than in a standard sedan) offering either two seats or 2+2 seating (space for two passengers in the front and two occasional passengers or children in the rear). Before the days of motorized vehicles, the word referred to the front or after compartment of a Continental stagecoach.

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I own a 1980's Ford ....... Coupe, and it only has 2 doors, as they should, but it doesn't have sweeping lines
However, 2 door classic Mini, not a Coupe.
2 door Mk1 Escort, not a Coupe.

If it's got a Hatchback then that's what it is, it can't be a Hatchback and a Coupe.

If it's got 4 doors, then it's a,,,,, 4 door saloon.
4 doors and a hatch,, 4 Door Hatchback.

I think Crossover is currently the worst description for a class of vehicle.
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
I know that seems a stupid question

However, I've noticed a trend that I don't understand. To me, a coupe is a car with two doors, that is long, sleek and sporty. Examples that spring to mind are the Honda Prelude, Toyota Celica, MR2, Fiat Coupe, 406 Coupe etc etc.

However, I'm sat watching TV and an episode of Fifth Gear comes on, and they do a test of a two eco-coupes, one of which is a Citroen DS3?! That's a hatchback?!

Then you look at the auto industry more widely. The Audi A5? Apparently that's a "four door coupe". Is it? It just looks like a saloon to me with slightly more swooping lines...

How about the VW Scirocco? Alfa Romeo Brera? Both nice looking cars, don't get me wrong, but not coupes; just pretty three door hatches?

Am I the only person that finds this utterly ridiculous? Manufacturers just seem to be chucking the coupe label onto anything and everything to try and make it look interesting.

Perhaps a slightly pointless thing to worry about, but never mind
The Audi A5 IS a 2 door coupe, it's the A7 that is a 4 door coupe
Old 15-07-2011, 12:57 PM
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as i understand it:

2dr = coupe (ie flip up boot)
3dr = hatchback
4dr = saloon (ie flip up boot
5dr = hatchback
Old 15-07-2011, 01:03 PM
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All depends, generally it's what you think and as said a two door car, with a sort of slanting roof line, the exception to this is like the Rover P5 which was available in both saloon and coupe derivatives, essentially there both saloon cars, just one has a lower (2 inches) slanting roof line.

Marina couple and Capri's are both coupes.

Also 2 door does not necessarily mean a coupe as you can have 2 door saloons such as a Cortina.

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Originally Posted by phil69a
The Audi A5 IS a 2 door coupe, it's the A7 that is a 4 door coupe
Can't you get a four door A5 too?
Old 15-07-2011, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
Can't you get a four door A5 too?
Nope. A5 is a two-door coupe. The two-door coupe version of the A4 effectively.
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Perhaps it was the A7 then. I remember seeing an advert for an Audi that was a "four door coupe", whatever the hell that is.
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A5 is available in 4 door.

Also, I don't tend to worry what a car is labeled as, if it looks good, fantastic, if it goes well, even better.
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as said the A5 IS available in a 4 door!

ps my puma says coupe on the logbook lol

either way, i just dont give a fuck
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my 2 door 323i bmw,coupe? i think so?? the wifes Fiesta st,hatchback
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Its what tea or coffee is served up in in Birmingham...
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
I wasn't going mad then

Proves my point perfectly though. How the fuck is that a coupe? It's a saloon car!

Just like the Brera, Scirocco and DS3 are hatchbacks!
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i think generally, if you have zero rear head room, its a coupe
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Should a coupe not also be Rear Wheel drive traditionaly?
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
i think generally, if you have zero rear head room, its a coupe

Ergo 2+2
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
A5 is available in 4 door.

Also, I don't tend to worry what a car is labeled as, if it looks good, fantastic, if it goes well, even better.
I thought the A7 was the 4/5dr whatever it was.

Pointless range filler then. Cars that answer questions that no one is asking IMO
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Originally Posted by massivewangers
I wasn't going mad then

Proves my point perfectly though. How the fuck is that a coupe? It's a saloon car!

Just like the Brera, Scirocco and DS3 are hatchbacks!
No thats a coupe, look at the way the roofline slants and also the bootlid is not what that is of a saloon car, that is basically as said a A4 coupe.

Using my example:

P5 Coupe:



P5 Saloon:



Again look at the coupe Marina compared to the saloon:





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I don't think we can take anything made by British Leyland as an example

They're all just four door saloons as far as I can see.

Perhaps not as stupid as the hatchbacks that are called coupes, but still just saloon cars!
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Originally Posted by macca194
Should a coupe not also be Rear Wheel drive traditionaly?
Hyundai coupe
Ford Probe
Renault Fuego

Granted none of them are "sporty" but they're fwd coupes
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Its all crap lol. When the mk3 escorts were racing years ago. Didn't they call that saloon car racing? escort is a hatch to me. orion is a saloon isnt it? as mentioned above zero headroom identidies a coupe to me.eg capri. calibra. granada coupe. its just a name they use know i think to define somethhing witha sleek sloping roof.

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My bm is log booked as a coupe

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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
My bm is log booked as a coupe

330CD to be precise from what I can see?

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what really bugs me is that a AE86 corolla piece of crap is dubbed "Corolla Twincam GT Coupe...although its a 3dr hatchback!!

looksy:



but yet the variant of it with 2 drs and a saloon back end is called a "Corolla Twincam BOOT Coupe"

looksy:




WTF...same front end, different sides and back end...yet both called coupes?????
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It's a 320 m sport



Doing some development it would eat a STD 330 for breakfast now lol
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my s1 logbook says its a 3dr saloon..they must just call them whatever sounds good at the time
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Originally Posted by macca194
Should a coupe not also be Rear Wheel drive traditionaly?

Ever car should!
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
A5 is available in 4 door.

Also, I don't tend to worry what a car is labeled as, if it looks good, fantastic, if it goes well, even better.
One of these for me then
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yh i tend to class a couple as a 3dr with a low roof an hatch style boot . how ever this seems to have got a bit jaded as such over the last 10 yrs, the tradition coupe to me is eg the rover 220 tomcat 2dr long flowing rear an hatch style boot.
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Originally Posted by Maxwell
what really bugs me is that a AE86 corolla piece of crap is dubbed "Corolla Twincam GT Coupe...although its a 3dr hatchback!!

looksy:



but yet the variant of it with 2 drs and a saloon back end is called a "Corolla Twincam BOOT Coupe"

looksy:




WTF...same front end, different sides and back end...yet both called coupes?????
Piece of crap? Shutup you fool
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