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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 07:09 AM
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if you are a blue badge holder sometimes you are entitled to a car off the government for mobility yes?

Well there is this bloke at work who is really getting under my skin

His missus is disabled (she's not the smallest of ladies) and they got given a 07 plate Ford mondeo as a mobility car.

Now they have only done 2000miles in it since they were given the car 2yrs+ ago as they have an old banger they use to run around in (out of their own pocket)

Now what gets on my tits is that after 3 yrs i understand you have an option of buying the mobility car at trade rate instead of getting a new one... Now a 07 plate mondeo with 2000miles on the clock IMO is worth quite a bit of money and he says that he can buy it a fraction of the cost off the government and sell it privately and pocket the profit?

Now i'm not against people having mobility cars and in 75% of cases they are deserved. But it hasn't even been out of the garage in 15months as they just use their banger mondeo (old shape M reg thing)

What i'm asking is......... Are they going between the lines or are they breaking the law?

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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 07:19 AM
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Just another example of how screwed up the benefits system is in this country IMO..

Hope he enjoys his bit of profit at the taxpayers expense....
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Mobility cars aren't free just discounted. I think it's about Ł35 a week off their mobility allowance.
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And no I don't think he is breaking the law.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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They should have to keep the car a minimum of 3 years after buying it. Stupid system
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by bateyovhebburn
Mobility cars aren't free just discounted. I think it's about Ł35 a week off their mobility allowance.
So they are getting it for free then ain't they.... As the benefits theyy are receiving are FOC.

Not saying he's breaking the law, just want a def answer off someone who know's how the system works. And if indeed he is following the rules laid out.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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i have a motability car for my daughter yes after 3 years you can buy it but you pay book price for make and model not trade price and im prity sure you must keep the car for some time before selling on
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With the mobility car stuck in the garage is costing him, you have to forfit some of you dla to have a car, and it being a mondeo its costing all of his dla.
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Originally Posted by david 100
With the mobility car stuck in the garage is costing him, you have to forfit some of you dla to have a car, and it being a mondeo its costing all of his dla.
correct +the advance payment of about Ł1000 he payed for the car
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 08:28 AM
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But her DLA (whatever the amount) surely ain't that much. He works full time at my place, doesn't do any overtime or extra hours as this fucks his benefits up apparently. According to him there is a was round the 'owning it for xx time after buying it' clause.

It gets me that the guy is so tight it's unbleievable. He never buys new clothes, never buys new equipment, and never chucks anything out. Just let's the wedge stack up in the bank he's our top shop steward aswell, the guy isn't thick. Just stuck in the old ages.
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he is clearly claiming other benefits than dla. Disability benefits are NOT means tested so his employment wont effect the DLA.

wouldnt surprise me if the fat bitch is also not working yet claims ESA as well and hence he is keeping his income down to play the game of claiming housing benefit council tax etc as well.


also is she disabled because shes super obese or is she super obese because shes disabled and doesnt make an effort to exercise??

I find it rediculous that if your a fat cunt and it effects walking, you can get blue badge, spazzer mobility scooter etc. Doesnt that defeat the whole point of trying to make the cunts loose weight?? if they cant walk far they cant get to the pie shop??? why make it easier to make themselves fatter???

Same with the ones who are house bound. They cannot go out to buy food so why is it we provide carers to provide whatever food they want????? surely naturally when your too fat to move the condition becomes self limiting, ie you starve until your small enough to move but no, our stupid fucking health system lets them continue to stuff their fat faces as its their "human fucking right". I really do not understand how such fat people cannot be put on a forced diet under mental health act. they are clearly not all there in the fucking head as it is....
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
also is she disabled because shes super obese or is she super obese because shes disabled and doesnt make an effort to exercise??

I find it rediculous that if your a fat cunt and it effects walking, you can get blue badge, spazzer mobility scooter etc. Doesnt that defeat the whole point of trying to make the cunts loose weight?? if they cant walk far they cant get to the pie shop??? why make it easier to make themselves fatter???

Same with the ones who are house bound. They cannot go out to buy food so why is it we provide carers to provide whatever food they want????? surely naturally when your too fat to move the condition becomes self limiting, ie you starve until your small enough to move but no, our stupid fucking health system lets them continue to stuff their fat faces as its their "human fucking right". I really do not understand how such fat people cannot be put on a forced diet under mental health act. they are clearly not all there in the fucking head as it is....
100% agree with all that. I hate fat cunts

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its shocking really. When i was a jobseeking scumbag i had to do a volunteer placement at the local council "shopmobility" place where they give out the scooters for disabled people going around the town centre.

they used to just have one type of scooter, now they have mostly got the "extra duty" ones as the normal scooter isnt rated for the weight of the fat cunts it has to transport. Bear in mind the normal scooters take a 120kg load, so youd have to be very very fat to overload one. It surprised me the number of people who got the scooters who had obesity related conditions as their only disability....
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120 Kg? Fucking hell!

These fuckers should be made to exercise and like you say lose weight and get to the food themselves!

Like the worlds fattest cunt that sits on the bed doing chuff all. All the big macs miraculously appear in his hand every day
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120kg... that's disgusting.




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Originally Posted by david 100
With the mobility car stuck in the garage is costing him, you have to forfit some of you dla to have a car, and it being a mondeo its costing all of his dla.
No it doesn't, it may cost him and likely does all of his MOBILITY DLA, his care award if any for DLA is not affected.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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He is BREAKING THE LAW, the mobility award has CLEAR guidelines with regard to motability cars etc.
Firstly it is NOT a motability car if it is 07, in our present year of 11, if it is it has already been bought, motobility cars are new, and last 3 years max, then generally taken back, there is a limit to mileage, amount of tyres you can have etc.
ANY car can be a motability car if you can afford the advance payment, there are ferraris, astons, lambos etc as motability cars, useful with the paddle shift!!
The AWARD of mobility allowance is for the LADY, the car can ONLY be used for her use or for errands etc directly for the lady who has the award.
He cannot justify it's use for his work travel, it's not allowed, if she had a job, she could get him to drive her and pick her up again.
She can even when getting dla for care or mobility work full time, for example people with amputated lower legs get mobility allowance and can work full time doing any job they choose and it does NOT affect your claim in any way, the government cannot take the award away for lower leg amputation, it is awarded for life, unless they regrow the limb!!
There are tow parts to DLA, the mobility component, ie how you get around, walk etc, and the CARE component, which has nothing to do with a car.
I know a "lady" loosely used word here riding around in a 11 plate 4wd as a child of hers gets dla mobility, she has chosen to forgo the weekly money for the 4wd, her choice.
If you think it makes you mad think how pissed off it makes genuine disabled people struggling to get what they are entitled to, some have to fight tooth and nail, some it gets thrown at.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 07:49 PM
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i think they should all still get these
anyone remember these
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/06/au...06INVACAR.html
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my mum has choice of a very cut price car or her disabled alowance its one or the other you carnt have both
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depends what allowance she gets dingla. if she gets care and mobility, only the mobility will be used for a car. but you can get high mobility but low care etc depending on disability.
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dont know how but my mate has a new golf tdi becauseh is nana has a disabilty and he takes her to hospital ect in it but its costs Ł200 a month and its a set milegae or you have to pay extra and it lasts 3 years then you either buy it or get a new 1
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Fucking pisses me right off - have been fighting with the council for the las year or two to try and get my old man a blue badge as he has a muscle eating disease in his legs and now struggles to walk far, yet I have a fat fucking Cunt of a cousin who blather his obesity to his local council & got a badge !

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Originally Posted by scottyrs
dont know how but my mate has a new golf tdi becauseh is nana has a disabilty and he takes her to hospital ect in it but its costs Ł200 a month and its a set milegae or you have to pay extra and it lasts 3 years then you either buy it or get a new 1
The "terms" of the hire which is what it is to the individual vary from car maker to car maker, and from model to model, I could get BRAND NEW frs if I wanted and put down the deposit the dealer wanted, the rules regarding money etc are NOT set by the government but the dealer/maker offering the car/s, they also get a hefty top up on this from the government, in addition to the DLA mobility award.
Some last 2 years but most are 3 years.
If you go over the mileage it can cost up to Ł10 PER MILE, for some exotic cars.
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
depends what allowance she gets dingla. if she gets care and mobility, only the mobility will be used for a car. but you can get high mobility but low care etc depending on disability.
Just to clarify, DLA is divided into two parts,
MOBILITY, ie walking etc how well how far, has a low rate and a high rate, ONLY the high rate qualifies for a mobility car, the low rate doesn't.
The CARE part of the DLA has three parts the higher rate, middle and lower rate.
The higher rate is for people who need care/help 24/7 regardless of whether they get it or not, so someone often incontinent for example would get this rate, the middle rate is for those less severe, and ok at night.
The lower rate is often termed the "cooking test", ie would it be dangerous to cook, if you have little feeling in your hands due to nerve damage etc you would likely pass this test, as grabbing something hot and not realising could harm you.
There are certain conditions that are automatic qualifiers fro the mobility component, as there are for the care component.
For example people can qualify for the care component if they have real bad acne, but there is a catch, you have to be FEMALE, yes males do NOT qualify automatically whereas females have in the past.
Income support has some even more bizarre rules, esp regarding living together rules.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
Firstly it is NOT a motability car if it is 07, in our present year of 11, if it is it has already been bought, motobility cars are new, and last 3 years max, then generally taken back, there is a limit to mileage, amount of tyres you can have etc.
Motability also offer a Hire Purchase scheme on new and used cars that can last up to 5 years, where the customer will obviously own the car at the end of the period.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
For example people can qualify for the care component if they have real bad acne, but there is a catch, you have to be FEMALE, yes males do NOT qualify automatically whereas females have in the past.
yep its the same on housing lists. a homeless female is automatically well higher up the list than a homeless male which gets you nowhere with the council.

in this day and age of equality youd think that if us men are expected to be ok sleeping rough then so should woman.
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Originally Posted by Paddy
Motability also offer a Hire Purchase scheme on new and used cars that can last up to 5 years, where the customer will obviously own the car at the end of the period.
This has very recently stopped..
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Make's you sick doesn't it. My friend's brother is 23 and a skinny bag of shit, he got this 30 year old huge great heffer pregnant. Now because she already had 2 kids and is grossly obese she is claiming this benefit due to a back problem that she sometimes gets and they have been given a VW Touran to tool around in. He goes out cruising down mcdonalds car park in it every night!
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Originally Posted by maxest
This has very recently stopped..
I haven't sold one through the HP scheme since last year although they haven't sent any information through about it stopping and it still offers it as an option on their website?

Not that it matters, it was invariably a complete ballache!

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Make's you sick doesn't it. My friend's brother...got this 30 year old huge great heffer ... she already had 2 kids ... is grossly obese ... a VW Touran ... He goes out cruising down mcdonalds car park in it every night!
Going by those life choices, I would imagine he'll be offered his own car on the scheme soon!
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fat cunts wont fit in them
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Originally Posted by Paddy
Motability also offer a Hire Purchase scheme on new and used cars that can last up to 5 years, where the customer will obviously own the car at the end of the period.
They do indeed, I forgot that.
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Originally Posted by maxest
This has very recently stopped..
really didn't know that, I know it was rarely taken up anyway.
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
fat cunts wont fit in them
They will, I've been in one!!
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no i mean the super obese freaks who claim DLA with their disability listed as "obesity"
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
fat cunts wont fit in them
it will make them want to lose the weight
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it will make them want to lose the weight
it wont as they will just whinge to the council about human rights and right to dignity and all that bollocks and get their way.
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
it wont as they will just whinge to the council about human rights and right to dignity and all that bollocks and get their way.
think they lost there dignity by craming too meny maccy'ds down there gullets the fat coont's
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youd think so but these days "fatism" is apparently wrong and all these beasts are supposed to be considered "BBW" rather than "ten to 2 birds" or "id rather have a wank" birds.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
He is BREAKING THE LAW, the mobility award has CLEAR guidelines with regard to motability cars etc.
Firstly it is NOT a motability car if it is 07, in our present year of 11, if it is it has already been bought, motobility cars are new, and last 3 years max, then generally taken back, there is a limit to mileage, amount of tyres you can have etc.
ANY car can be a motability car if you can afford the advance payment, there are ferraris, astons, lambos etc as motability cars, useful with the paddle shift!!
The AWARD of mobility allowance is for the LADY, the car can ONLY be used for her use or for errands etc directly for the lady who has the award.
He cannot justify it's use for his work travel, it's not allowed, if she had a job, she could get him to drive her and pick her up again.
She can even when getting dla for care or mobility work full time, for example people with amputated lower legs get mobility allowance and can work full time doing any job they choose and it does NOT affect your claim in any way, the government cannot take the award away for lower leg amputation, it is awarded for life, unless they regrow the limb!!
There are tow parts to DLA, the mobility component, ie how you get around, walk etc, and the CARE component, which has nothing to do with a car.
I know a "lady" loosely used word here riding around in a 11 plate 4wd as a child of hers gets dla mobility, she has chosen to forgo the weekly money for the 4wd, her choice.
If you think it makes you mad think how pissed off it makes genuine disabled people struggling to get what they are entitled to, some have to fight tooth and nail, some it gets thrown at.
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a bit off subject but a got a lower leg ampuation in argust 2009 they did not want to give me the mobillity high rate i add to fight for it .i was in a wheel chair for about 8 months until i got a prostic leg .which iam haveing so much trouble with,i can hardly walk 10 yards without been in constant pain with and i have to stop .any way i pick up a mobillity car on 1st march 2010 and also i got a blue badge ,now since jan 2011 they have stop my dla and my blue badge as expired ,they refuse to renue my badge cause my dla add stop when i ask why my dla add stop .i was told that my circomestances add change i dont know how that is ,my leg has not grown back ,i ave lodge an apeal ,just wating for an apeal date
one thing i will say mobillity are very understanding they have given me a few more week grace before they take the car back (must learn to spell)
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