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Old 09-06-2011, 05:52 PM
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Steve,I just put pics up above of it.

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Nice m8, not sure about that plenum though, i can take it off your hands though

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Nice m8, not sure about that plenum though, i can take it off your hands though

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What plenum..lol.

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Originally Posted by 1374lee
What plenum..lol.

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Thats a no then lol

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve


Thats a no then lol

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Correct answer there..lol.
Never mind all that,lets get back to your cooler,it was getting interesting.

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Not much more to tell m8, its all good, I'm happy and the car goes like fook.

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Old 09-06-2011, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
i just had 2 farts............1 spelt funny but the other was deffo hotter......cheers Pete

my point exactly
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so you happy then steve...

ive got my build thread up now guys but go easy on me lol
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
I'm happy and the car goes like fook.

Steve

Not according to the Train Driver it don't...

He tells me he hammers you Steve, is he telling porkies then??
Old 09-06-2011, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by staffi
Not according to the Train Driver it don't...

He tells me he hammers you Steve, is he telling porkies then??
No

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I knew you'd be along soon.....
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Not been for a test drive with Steve since he has fitted his new intercooler. It might be faster now but not enough to make up the difference lol

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Originally Posted by cossie4i
It might be faster now but not enough to make up the difference lol

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I'm surprised yours is quicker with all those Windows xrcossiebus lol
Old 09-06-2011, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
I'm surprised yours is quicker with all those Windows xrcossiebus lol
I will keep my bus over any taxi lol

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Originally Posted by cossie4i
I will keep my bus over any taxi lol

Steve
You gotta keep it cause no over fucker would want it



















night night I'm off

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Originally Posted by staffi
Not according to the Train Driver it don't...

He tells me he hammers you Steve, is he telling porkies then??
That's because you've got two simular powered cars,cossie4i on 2wd and the sapp on 4wd,no contest,the 4wd has around 20% transmission loss.So power at the wheels the 2wd wins hands down,flywheel figures are guestimate,power at the wheels is the important figure which people never seem to realise.
My apologies Moonstone Steve but the facts speak for themselves..lol.
Cossie4i,you owe me son.

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Originally Posted by 1374lee
That's because you've got two simular powered cars,cossie4i on 2wd and the sapp on 4wd,no contest,the 4wd has around 20% transmission loss.So power at the wheels the 2wd wins hands down,flywheel figures are guestimate,power at the wheels is the important figure which people never seem to realise.
My apologies Moonstone Steve but the facts speak for themselves..lol.
Cossie4i,you owe me son.

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Lee my saph is 2wd m8

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Old 10-06-2011, 06:09 AM
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Lee = FAIL

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Lee=Plonka

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Originally Posted by cossie4i
He could do a back to back test with R4N S S as it already has the modified pipes.

Steve
A back to back test would be good as we can see then if the size of the pipes actually makes any difference
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I'm not interested whether it makes any difference i need the bigger pipes to fit the hoses i have plus if its angled towards the inner wing it wont make the hose kink.

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Lee my saph is 2wd m8

Steve
Originally Posted by cossie4i
Lee = FAIL

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Lee=Plonka

Steve
Doh,why did I think your sapp was 4wd then,I always thought that,my apologies Moonstone Steve,ah more interesting now then both being 2wd..lol.
Steve,glad you are happy with the new cooler and your act temps has dropped on your road test,nice bud.


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Lee, you NUMPTY...............

So there you go, T38s ROCK...........
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Originally Posted by staffi
Lee, you NUMPTY...............

So there you go, T38s ROCK...........
its not just turbos tho guys....

didnt i read some where that the taxi is low comp and needs head work, and doesnt the bus have standard compression and ported head, aswel as the best cooler and the best inlet before going big inlet...

as thats why its faster....

i bet if the taxi had standard compression big valve pockets and worked head with same inlet and cooler it would eat it alive

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Originally Posted by rsmark86

didnt i read some where that the taxi is low comp and needs head work

i bet if the taxi had standard compression big valve pockets and worked head with same inlet and cooler it would eat it alive
The Sapphire would benefit nicely with some head work, i would have thought a ported head was really needed with this turbo - would it not get restricted with that amount of air?
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time to get the dremmel out
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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
The Sapphire would benefit nicely with some head work, i would have thought a ported head was really needed with this turbo - would it not get restricted with that amount of air?
Haven't had any surge issues @ 2.2 bar, headwork is on the list of to does as i have a spare head ready to be ported.

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Originally Posted by rsmark86
its not just turbos tho guys....

didnt i read some where that the taxi is low comp and needs head work, and doesnt the bus have standard compression and ported head, aswel as the best cooler and the best inlet before going big inlet...

as thats why its faster....

i bet if the taxi had standard compression big valve pockets and worked head with same inlet and cooler it would eat it alive
I think for the difference that there is the taxi does quite well, lets not forget that as far as i'm aware Steve's T38 is a T4 without the two part exhaust housing.

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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
The Sapphire would benefit nicely with some head work, i would have thought a ported head was really needed with this turbo - would it not get restricted with that amount of air?
Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
I think for the difference that there is the taxi does quite well, lets not forget that as far as i'm aware Steve's T38 is a T4 without the two part exhaust housing.

Steve
Yes I agree,Chris there will be a big when the head is ported to the correct sizes of course.

Steve, yes cossie4i's t38 is the big boy version from Turbo Technics.

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Mine has lowered comp, 7.8.1 so not much lower than standard.

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The truth will out @ Pod....

Let's see those TERMINALS boys.....
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
lets not forget that as far as i'm aware Steve's T38 is a T4 without the two part exhaust housing.

Steve
The April 2005 issue of Fast Ford compares the two in full detail

Compressor spec:

T38 ........ 73MM, 60 TRIM ........ T31 HOUSING, 0.63 A/R

T4 ........ 76MM, 56 TRIM ........ T31 HOUSING, 0.63 A/R

The turbine wheel on the T38 has more acute angles to the T4
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I wonder guys if a T38 would make 500bhp with a STONKING spec and mapping etc??
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Originally Posted by staffi
I wonder guys if a T38 would make 500bhp with a STONKING spec and mapping etc??
I think if Steve used his 200 block with some long studs i reckon Tony could squeeze it to 500

We will see how close mine is to 500 soon enough maybe

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Originally Posted by BRAMMER
The April 2005 issue of Fast Ford compares the two in full detail

Compressor spec:

T38 ........ 73MM, 60 TRIM ........ T31 HOUSING, 0.63 A/R

T4 ........ 76MM, 56 TRIM ........ T31 HOUSING, 0.63 A/R

The turbine wheel on the T38 has more acute angles to the T4
Just for a stupid Kitchen fitter what does the above mean Chris, is it the acute angles make it spin easier.

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i can get a cossie head done to the same spec as mine and my car with gt35 makes boost 100rpm higher than a t34 lol....

grace engine developments they are well known on turbosport for big spec ybs, if you want one done pm me and i will have a word with james

then some nice cams and she will be rapid
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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
I think if Steve used his 200 block with some long studs i reckon Tony could squeeze it to 500

We will see how close mine is to 500 soon enough maybe

Steve
Along with a Hart inlet and BD16

Yours should be over 500 now Steve if you got the same gains as i did which was +13bhp.

Steve

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Originally Posted by Moonstone Steve
Just for a stupid Kitchen fitter what does the above mean Chris, is it the acute angles make it spin easier.

Steve
I ain't got a clue either lol

Steve
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Originally Posted by staffi
I wonder guys if a T38 would make 500bhp with a STONKING spec and mapping etc??
sheady got 490bhp out of a 3 door with t38, that was with i think 2.6 bar boost. that was one of his engines
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