moonstone_cossie

Hi as the title says i have a small question, i am taking into spraying my sapphire cossie and ive got the high build primer on and its all flattened down lovely but i put the base on and i didnt laquer becasue i wasnt happy with the finish.

it looks like a zebra so to speak and ive went both ways over the pannel well its the bonnet and boot lid im doing. and it looks exremly orange peely. i know its to do with the set-up on my gun but what do i need to adjust? or am i missing something?

oh and its a Upol gun and its moonstone blue.

Any help will be soooooo greatly appricated thank you

xr_craig

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Need to have a larger spray fan by the sound of it.

As for orange peel in basecoat, if it's still wet then there may look to be a bit, otherwise it must be far too heavy.

moonstone_cossie

oh so i need to adjust the fan bigger? and yes it looks very heavy when on the panel so i take it thats whats causing my very heavy orange peel? do i adjust the amount of paint coming out? or move faster?

thanks for your reply

xr_craig

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yeah bigger fan. Either will work mate, it's a case of trial and error as you don't want it too dry either.

moonstone_cossie

oh okay mate thanks very much for the help i like the painting alot but its hard when ive no clue lol

thanks again

xr_craig

iTrader: (2)

No worries mate.

What ratio have you thinned the basecoat to? 2 to 1? If it's not laying well maybe try a touch more thinners

moonstone_cossie

the base coat is 1:1 it was what i was told to paint with but is that wrong?

xr_craig

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That will be very thin, which probably won't be helping as far as the striping issue goes. If the fan/material level doesn't help then maybe try thickening it up a little.

moonstone_cossie

ok thats great thanks for your help ill def give that a try once these are dry and rubbed down again

oh and one last thing sorry for annoying you, once these are dry do i need to rub down with 2000grit? or can i just scratch the finish with scotch brite and spray over it again?

thanks Craig is it?

xr_craig

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Yeah it is mate.

It's up to you, if they are orange peely it might be worth giving them a quick flat before you put more on. Otherwise scotch will be fine.

moonstone_cossie

okay i will do that thank you for your advice mate
much appricated

kxkid

dont know how youv gotten on mate, but solvent basecoat should be mixed 60:40 it should never go on too wet, and if your still getting the striped effect, try opening the fan and doing twice as many passes with the gun. painting is a really hard skill to master. hope you get on ok.

mr yella

mmmm basecoat i mix at 50 /50 if 2k solvent , with turbo basecoat its 50/40 to 10% hardener .
Basecoat should never be orange peely , sounds like the mixing ratio is wrong ......

little bram

Dont want to seem funny mate but it sounds to me that you dont know what you are talking about. What XR CRAIG has put seem right to me

mr yella

Ah glad you put me right , as after 25 years of being a pro commercial painter , i now know where im going wrong ......

little bram

well am no pro mate and it dosnt sound like the op is but it dosnt sound like he is mixing it wrong really, it is abit thin if he is not in a booth but still ok. just sounds like the gun isnt set up right.
and i havent painted for awile and as i said am no pro but why do you put hardener in basecoat. is Turbo basecoat diffrent to nomal basecoat

mr yella

Turbo basecoat is mixed different to 2k , putting hardener into turbo , makes it sit flatter .
Trust me on this one , data sheets don't lie .......

andy130

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what colour are turbo paints mate?

DazF

iTrader: (1)

Here we go again.........................................:top :

Sits back and grabs beer and popcorn...

mr yella

Any colour you want mixed up , some times the colour is not available in a paint system so it needs to be mixed in another type of paint , but that happens across the board .

Daz ....shut up .....

LukeDaisley

iTrader: (1)

orange peel could also be from having too much air pressure and holding the gun too close, if the fan is too small.

(I hate painting, so many things to go wrong.)

xr_craig

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Definately don't put hardener in this basecoat. Turbo basecoat is completely different.