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Old 06-05-2011 | 05:34 PM
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Default 95 - 105 in a 60 - what can I expect? *UPDATE - NIP THROUGH*

Pretty shitty day all round really!

Have had a monumentally shit day at work, a trip I was looking forward to this weekend has been cancelled but I am still having to go into work anyway as there are shit jobs that need doing and I ended up having to work late this evening as well just because of the sheer amount of faffing going on by my management.

So, keen to get away from work and get home I'm not exactly hanging around on Lincolnshire's country lanes to get home. Going down one of the mile long straight roads I normally take to work I only notice the speed camera van on the side of the road as I go flying past it at an indicated 110mph!!!

I know it's not big, I know it's not clever and I have absolutely no intention of trying to wriggle out of it but what sort of punishment am I looking at here? A fine and points I can cope with but a ban will see me seriously screwed. I currently have a clean licence and this will be my first 'proper' motoring offence (have had an SP30 in the past but long gone now).

Is it likely to be dealt with by fixed penalty notice through the post or can I expect a knock on the door later inviting me down to the local nick for 'a chat'

Just one of those fucking days!!!

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Old 06-05-2011 | 05:38 PM
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Old 06-05-2011 | 05:44 PM
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it wont be jail lol

if you have a sp30 in the past then you dont have a clean licence and its not your first motoring offence
you will get a court summons in the post
so get your self a good defence lawer but in my experience as its magistrates it wont make a lot of difference as its a police court as such

dont matter if you go there saying stuff like your job depends on your licence or familey will be affected etc they wont care

you will be banned without a dout and a fined
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if they get you for 110 in a 60 they will also look down on that as near double the limmit which is jail for a repeat offence which this is
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6months ban.

My understand was 30 over the speed limit and its a ban.
Over a Ton and its a ban.

Keep it all crossed for 14 days and see what the outcome is - be interesting to know.
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if its over 100mph its a ban i think, i may be wrong though.
Old 06-05-2011 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by paceo
if its over 100mph its a ban i think, i may be wrong though.
its over 98 they give the ban for

and dont be fooled into ever thinking that they give 10% of the speedo coz thats crap lol if your ever told this
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if you have a sp30 in the past then you dont have a clean licence and its not your first motoring offence
Yes it's not my first offence but this will be my first 'proper' offence (SP30 is still, as far as I'm aware, considered a minor traffic offence) and as it was over 8 years ago I got picked up for that my licence has had no active points on it for over 5 years now - I consider that a clean licence.

Yes I'm a fucking pillock but that's what happens when you are in a rush on autopilot.

Am I looking at a dangerous driving offence here or may they push for an easy conviction for driving without due care. I know it's a tough one to call but I was accellerating the whole way down the road so if they got me from a fair ol' distance away then they may have only clocked me at 80.

If I'm not expecting a knock on the door later then I might go and get myself some beer and start praying! Either way I better get my number 1 uniform out of the wardrobe and ironed it seems.
Old 06-05-2011 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Shings
6months ban.

My understand was 30 over the speed limit and its a ban.
Over a Ton and its a ban.

Keep it all crossed for 14 days and see what the outcome is - be interesting to know.
why 14 days mate
Old 06-05-2011 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Davemurphy007
Yes it's not my first offence but this will be my first 'proper' offence (SP30 is still, as far as I'm aware, considered a minor traffic offence) and as it was over 8 years ago I got picked up for that my licence has had no active points on it for over 5 years now - I consider that a clean licence.

Yes I'm a fucking pillock but that's what happens when you are in a rush on autopilot.

Am I looking at a dangerous driving offence here or may they push for an easy conviction for driving without due care. I know it's a tough one to call but I was accellerating the whole way down the road so if they got me from a fair ol' distance away then they may have only clocked me at 80.

If I'm not expecting a knock on the door later then I might go and get myself some beer and start praying! Either way I better get my number 1 uniform out of the wardrobe and ironed it seems.
trust me on this i know your situation inside out
i got caught for 165 in a 70 so was in and out of court and spoke to numerous solicitors etc and my name is on the register of highest speeding convictions recorded in this country
im in the top 3 %

and im not trying to look big here just did the same as you mate

now a sp will stay for 10 years so the fact you had one 8 years ago will stand in court
and you recent speeding is a driving offence not criminal

so they will see this as a repeat offence

road conditions and weather also other road traffic etc will determin the dangeroud part
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and if anyone who is interested

for the first offence no matter how fast you go the most they can give is

6 month ban 500 quid fine
Old 06-05-2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by v man
and if anyone who is interested

for the first offence no matter how fast you go the most they can give is

6 month ban 500 quid fine
Bollocks. I got a 12mth ban and £350 fine for my first offence which was speeding.
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road conditions and weather also other road traffic etc will determin the dangeroud part
Thankfully that seems to be the one thing I have in my favour at this moment in time. It's been a beautiful clear day here, no rain for a while and the road was completely clear along the whole stretch - though the pessimist in me suggests that 'they' would use this against me anyway!

Bollocks on the previous offences being on record for 10 years - I thought drink/drug driving were the only offences they could hold against you for 10 years? All others were forgotten after 3 (+1 more year on your licence and +2 for insurance purposes) as they fall under the rehabilitation of offenders act? Maybe I am wrong - I've never been in this position before but I'm genuinely interested to know.

While none of this is really the end of the world - I've just started a new job which involved a lot of travelling around the UK and northern Europe (a lot of it driving), I'm getting married in August and I'm finally getting my arse in gear to get my 3-year project car on the road this summer - talk about shitty timing!
Old 06-05-2011 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Jigga
Bollocks. I got a 12mth ban and £350 fine for my first offence which was speeding.
how long ago was that mate conviction wise

what i wrote was what i was told by the judge and i got danned feb 2010
Old 06-05-2011 | 06:15 PM
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i recon 6 mth ban, you may argue it to a mth but you need to drive for work

didnt you sell the car last week? v5 in the post to a russian sounding name the other end of the courtry?
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I got caught a few years back doing 101mph ,that was a ban, on the m25,i would say that you would be looking at a ban
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the offences may not stay for 10 years but teh courts will consider them for taht long
i got banned for Dangerous driving in =02 and got 2 year ban and retake etc and they went back to no mot/bald tyre when i was 17, they print out a list of anything motoring for the court for the past 10 years
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the 2 things that they will look at in a court room are

repeat offence and the speed of 110 ( if they got you at that) as they will see it as close to double if you was in a 60
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didnt you sell the car last week? v5 in the post to a russian sounding name the other end of the courtry?
Much as I would love to there's no point - I've done it, just going to face up to it.

If it's a 6 month ban am I looking at a retest afterwards or anything or is it just 6 months and I can drive again?
Old 06-05-2011 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Davemurphy007
Much as I would love to there's no point - I've done it, just going to face up to it.

If it's a 6 month ban am I looking at a retest afterwards or anything or is it just 6 months and I can drive again?
dout they will put a retest on you

i never got one and my conviction is worse than what you could get done for
Old 06-05-2011 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by v man
dout they will put a retest on you

i never got one and my conviction is worse than what you could get done for
Encouraging!

Will screw up the remaining 4 years of my RAF career as well as I'll be charged by them as well if I do end up in court. Chasing promotion with 4 years left and this will be on my record (read: no chance of being promoted) for the next 3 of them!!!
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Originally Posted by v man
dout they will put a retest on you

i never got one and my conviction is worse than what you could get done for
might have to go on one of those speed awareness courses, as an option to reduce your fine and/or ban
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dont know the answer to your question, but

for me 105 in a 70 = 6 pionts and £400 fine, said at it was a 1st offence that i wasn't going to be baned, but did have an sp30 8 years earlier
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They will send you a notice of intended prosecution within 14 days when you sent that back you will get a court summons with photographic evidence the summons can take upto 6 months to come through your door i got clocked in january just got summons this week
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Originally Posted by tommytwotanks
might have to go on one of those speed awareness courses, as an option to reduce your fine and/or ban
yeh thats an option that could help out
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Originally Posted by ezz168
They will send you a notice of intended prosecution within 14 days when you sent that back you will get a court summons with photographic evidence the summons can take upto 6 months to come through your door i got clocked in january just got summons this week
Do you know what offence you are being taken to court for? Have they already told you that you are being summoned to court to answer the charge of.............dangerous/careless driving? Have you had any other contact with the police/CPS other than the letters you have been sent?
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Originally Posted by v man
its over 98 they give the ban for

and dont be fooled into ever thinking that they give 10% of the speedo coz thats crap lol if your ever told this

Not true.
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Dave, surely the RAF can't do you as well for a speeding offence? I know drink driving etc is a whole different ball game as it brings the service in to disrepute but i have never heard of anyone being done for a speeding offence.

Obviously if your job requires the use of a driving licence then a decent Officer should be able to help you keep it but you will get a heavily increased fine and a shed load of points. Hopefully all will go well for you as when i was clocked and stopped on the M4 at just over 100mph my paperwork mysteriously disappeared and i never heard anything again.
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Originally Posted by Davemurphy007
Do you know what offence you are being taken to court for? Have they already told you that you are being summoned to court to answer the charge of.............dangerous/careless driving? Have you had any other contact with the police/CPS other than the letters you have been sent?
Offenceces drove a motor vehicle on a restricted road at a speed exceeding 30 mph ie 58 mph no other contact as i said it was me driving n pleaded guilty
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got caught at 92 in a 60 and got 5 points n a £150 fine, no brief no letter pleading i was rushing to help a old lady just held my hands up to it. caught for something else last year and wrote a letter pleading with them about how sorry i was and explained the situation n got away with minimum points n fine.
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I would expect them to escalate that to either 'without due care' or 'dangerous driving'.

My input is go see a solicitor when the summons has arrived and states what the actual charge is...
You are going to be the luckiest s.o.b going if it comes through as a speeding ticket mate.
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Defo a court aperance i had the option to plead guilty by post or plead guilty in court im going to court as i believe you got a better chance of retianing your licence if you go in person others my disagree
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Originally Posted by v man
and if anyone who is interested

for the first offence no matter how fast you go the most they can give is

6 month ban 500 quid fine
thats bullshit lad
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Originally Posted by danneth
Not true.
yes it is lol

i went through shit loads of stuff with my speeding offence
and got told a lot by a mate who is a traffic officer

but i must admit thats the offical speed and alot of officers use there own discression i think

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Originally Posted by steve7786
Dave, surely the RAF can't do you as well for a speeding offence? I know drink driving etc is a whole different ball game as it brings the service in to disrepute but i have never heard of anyone being done for a speeding offence.

Obviously if your job requires the use of a driving licence then a decent Officer should be able to help you keep it but you will get a heavily increased fine and a shed load of points. Hopefully all will go well for you as when i was clocked and stopped on the M4 at just over 100mph my paperwork mysteriously disappeared and i never heard anything again.
No the RAF can't screw me for a speeding offence itself but any day in court which leads to me being convicted will see me on a charge for 'bringing the service into disrepute' - even if I somehow escape that charge I will still get a formal interview and a formal warning - which goes on my record for the next 3 years which consequently screws me for the promotion I am right on the verge of (but still waiting for due to the service defence review).

I am going to wait and see what paperwork comes through either way - if by some miracle it is a speeding ticket I will send it back with a cheque and thank whatever deity was smiling on me that day - unfortunately I can't see that happening so am looking to prepare for the worst (a day in court I suspect). Once I have some paperwork through I will go and see my Warrant who 'knows the right people to talk to' and see what I can sort out - I dare say an imminent tour to Afghanistan or the Falklands or something might suddenly look favourable to my case! I am merely reading massively ahead there though!

The problem I am going to have with a ban is I live in a private house approximately 20 miles across the county from my work place (40 minute drive). Anything up to a month I could probably cope with as I would just take the whole period on leave and be on the management's shit list for the rest of my tour - anything over a month and I am either looking at moving back into a room on camp (which would go down epicly well with the soon-to-be-wed misses!) or something else like cycling into work!
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I got caught doing 104.7mph on the a14 and got 6points and £600 fine. I already had 3points on my license already and a fair few spent previous speeding offences.
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Originally Posted by v man
yes it is lol

i went through shit loads of stuff with my speeding offence
and got told a lot by a mate who is a traffic officer

but i must admit thats the offical speed and alot of officers use there own discression i think

its really not as i got done recently going faster then what you said and i got 5 points and 300quid fine and it wasn't my first time

so lets stick to facts
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Originally Posted by Dan@Rapid-Ford
I got caught doing 104.7mph on the a14 and got 6points and £600 fine. I already had 3points on my license already and a fair few spent previous speeding offences.
dan thats a pussy amount of speed
i expected more from you lol

not seen you in a while will have to pop round for a cuppa and catch up
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I had 6 points and got caught doing 100mph bang on. They offered me 6 points and £60 fine which would of given me an instant ban for 3 months and loss of my job. I went to court and my boss came with me and we both pleaded my case. I ended up with 5 points and a £350 fine which I was very grateful for. Just go to court and tell them the circumstances and how sorry you are and hopefully you will just get points and a fine instead of a ban.


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