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Old 31-03-2011, 06:36 PM
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well think the head gaskets fooked on the cossie, took it down the village the day(4mile) stopped outside the shop and as a was walkin in to the shop the mrs noticed water runnin out from below the front wheel, opened the bonnet and there was water pissin out from below the exhaust manifold witch looks like between the head and the block, there was mega pressure in the water system but the car neva overhet and still has a heater, drove it back home temp gauge did come up a little but neva over lost the heater or boiled up,

what do u guys think do u think the gaskets is the problem or has anyone had this problem?


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Old 31-03-2011, 06:40 PM
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you need to pressure test it and see exactly were its leaking from. worst case it may be a crack fingers crossed it isnt!
also is there any mayo in the oil cap or ant oil floating on the coolant thats left in the header tank ?
you can also sniff test it to see if there are any hydrocarbons in the coolant system. but if your seeing the water leak then chances are it isnt mixing but its actually just loosing coolant externaly, are you sure there isnt any coolant pipes in the area that are split as dont forgett coolant will run along to the lowest point before it drips.
Old 31-03-2011, 06:45 PM
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Mine recently did exactly the same from front corner under manifold and it was the gasket bud.
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yeah mate a no wot ur sayin, there is no mix of the oil in water or water in the oil, dont think the pressure tester is needed mate as a mean its proper sprayin out like a bit of a jet wash from wot looks like between the head and block on the exhaust side of the engine, the only water hose near it is the metal one that runs from front of the head to the heater, or the one off the turbo but cheaked these and thats not the problem, would the pressure in the cylinder have blown the gasket out from between the head and block?
Old 31-03-2011, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain500rs
Mine recently did exactly the same from front corner under manifold and it was the gasket bud.

cheeRS dude, so did the gasket slove the problem or was there a cause for this?
Old 31-03-2011, 06:56 PM
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Was meant to have had a multi layer on it and was actually a standard gasket,it was fooked lol,had head skimmed and pressure tested and all is ok with it, so hopefully it should be sorted.
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Originally Posted by Captain500rs
Was meant to have had a multi layer on it and was actually a standard gasket,it was fooked lol,had head skimmed and pressure tested and all is ok with it, so hopefully it should be sorted.
thats good then mate, did u still hav a heater and that mate? mines still has a heater and still starts perfect and runs and idles pefect just pishes water out from below the zost manifold
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yes if your running more power with a standard gasket "material type" then thats exactly what can happen. do the gasket get it pressure tested etc and maybe a skim but try to avoid it if possible. but let the engineers tell you if it needs it. and get a multilayer gasket fitted
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Originally Posted by luke_rs1800
yes if your running more power with a standard gasket "material type" then thats exactly what can happen. do the gasket get it pressure tested etc and maybe a skim but try to avoid it if possible. but let the engineers tell you if it needs it. and get a multilayer gasket fitted
a was always under the belief that if it hadnt boiled up then u didnt need to get them skimmed, wheres best place to get gasket? and wot else will a need apart from gasket and timming belt?
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Car was running normal temps,heaters worked,was just leaking water from under manifold. Unfortunately you can't really tell till head is off.
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Originally Posted by Captain500rs
Car was running normal temps,heaters worked,was just leaking water from under manifold. Unfortunately you can't really tell till head is off.
sounds exactly like the prob am havin mate so is this a common thing? am runnin stage 3 and a would take it that its a standard gasket thats in it for it to do this,
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as he said you cant tell untill the heads off, sometimes they pitt so need skimming for this reason. and id say probably burton power or somewere like that. although they may be expensive. apart from cambelt kit ul need oil filter new oil coolant and id consider doing the waterpump wile im at it.
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Originally Posted by luke_rs1800
as he said you cant tell untill the heads off, sometimes they pitt so need skimming for this reason. and id say probably burton power or somewere like that. although they may be expensive. apart from cambelt kit ul need oil filter new oil coolant and id consider doing the waterpump wile im at it.
will hav a look on burton website get prices, not worried bout oil or water as it was due a service anyway, so will just do it all at once, will do the water pump and thermostat to a think, do the ybs need new head bolts or that as ave neva done head on one of these,
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Think it would depend how old the gasket is etc. Your gonna need a head gasket,belt and tensioner, cam cover gasket and half moon seals,inlet manifold gasket,and maybe exhaust gasket. Head bolts if not long studded. As said get it pressure tested and sniff tested before buying parts.
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will pressure test it and sniff test it at work tomorrow and go fae there, wots the best head gasket to use? is there a head gasket set avalible?
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This happened to me a few years back on an old cossie i had, exactly as you describe, the gasket had just rotted away and started leaking between head and block just under the exhaust manifold, was told it was a common thing on cossies, i just checked the head and block with a straight edge and all was ok, so just fitted new gasket and bolts from mattlewis motorsport and all was spot on, so i think you'll be fine.
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Unlikely to be the HG if spraying, look closely at the core plugs first esp the one nearest no 3 on exhaust side, a rusted through pin hole will cause this.
Even if a duff HG pressure test will rarely show this in this area, when mine went shortly after I got my car I was putting 1 litre in every 8 miles or so to get home, driven gently.
Previous fixer, a ford garage didn't skim the warped head, or bolt it down correctly, 3 bolts were finger tight.
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wulliesxr4i, how long did you use this gasket at your engine?
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Originally Posted by coswurv
This happened to me a few years back on an old cossie i had, exactly as you describe, the gasket had just rotted away and started leaking between head and block just under the exhaust manifold, was told it was a common thing on cossies, i just checked the head and block with a straight edge and all was ok, so just fitted new gasket and bolts from mattlewis motorsport and all was spot on, so i think you'll be fine.
sounds good to me mate, was lookin at buy in this: http://www.burtonpower.com/sc747a.html

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Unlikely to be the HG if spraying, look closely at the core plugs first esp the one nearest no 3 on exhaust side, a rusted through pin hole will cause this.
Even if a duff HG pressure test will rarely show this in this area, when mine went shortly after I got my car I was putting 1 litre in every 8 miles or so to get home, driven gently.
Previous fixer, a ford garage didn't skim the warped head, or bolt it down correctly, 3 bolts were finger tight.
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its defo the HG mate put the pressure tester on it today at work and could see the bit off old gasket bein pushed out from between the head and block,

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wulliesxr4i, how long did you use this gasket at your engine?
its the original one mate, heads neva been off, its a 1989 g-reg saph, 205 block with 140k on the clock, runnin stage3, 3 owners from new a hav contacted the old owners and looked through the paper work and the head gasket is from the factory,
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Yeah that looks ok mate, just give matt lewis a ring he may do it at a better price for you.
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Originally Posted by coswurv
Yeah that looks ok mate, just give matt lewis a ring he may do it at a better price for you.
cheeRS mate will he b open tomorrow or will a hav to wait till monday now?
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Originally Posted by wulliesxr4i
cheeRS mate will he b open tomorrow or will a hav to wait till monday now?

Im not sure mate.
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go the kit from burton so should get it next week hopefully,
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