well i bought it, 900 hp . vid added page 17 :) breaking for parts ! 29/07/2012
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i found it on the japanese performance website back order brand new for £4.75 delivered. nice to have abit more history and being europes first 3.4 hks is a bonus aswell.
thanks for showing me i would of never known otherwise.
thanks for showing me i would of never known otherwise.
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Would have let you have the mag, but i was going to say it's a bit tatty and you'll probably be able to get a new back copy on ebay or there website, glad you found one.
Congrats bud
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not yet mate i got no power for it cig lighter dont work ive ordered a new one though so il have it in next week.
ive put my aem in today its taken 5 fookin hrs bastard thing it had a redundant toyota narrowband but ive had to make an adaptor as there a weird plate thing. uploading pics now
few low taken pics of car aswell and my princess
the pic of boot is a tank made my pro alloy, custom made tank to fit around the spare wheel for holding water for wi. must of been a pretty penny getting a one off made to a pattern by pro alloy.
ive put my aem in today its taken 5 fookin hrs bastard thing it had a redundant toyota narrowband but ive had to make an adaptor as there a weird plate thing. uploading pics now
few low taken pics of car aswell and my princess
the pic of boot is a tank made my pro alloy, custom made tank to fit around the spare wheel for holding water for wi. must of been a pretty penny getting a one off made to a pattern by pro alloy.
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305/30/19s
i had a little practice at launching tonight but it spins so bad basically has to be half throttle til 4th gear lol
racelogic on 10% sounded like engine was running on 2 cylinders so i backed straight of and switched it off, if its the same on the other settings it aint ever gonna be used, i think i will be driving it by the right foot tbh at pod terminal speed will tell the story even if 60s are shit
i had a little practice at launching tonight but it spins so bad basically has to be half throttle til 4th gear lol
racelogic on 10% sounded like engine was running on 2 cylinders so i backed straight of and switched it off, if its the same on the other settings it aint ever gonna be used, i think i will be driving it by the right foot tbh at pod terminal speed will tell the story even if 60s are shit
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Have you seen this supra thread ?
- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...&t=841007&nmt=
Lovely car btw
- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...&t=841007&nmt=
Lovely car btw
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Have you seen this supra thread ?
- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...&t=841007&nmt=
Lovely car btw
- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...&t=841007&nmt=
Lovely car btw
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305/30/19s
i had a little practice at launching tonight but it spins so bad basically has to be half throttle til 4th gear lol
racelogic on 10% sounded like engine was running on 2 cylinders so i backed straight of and switched it off, if its the same on the other settings it aint ever gonna be used, i think i will be driving it by the right foot tbh at pod terminal speed will tell the story even if 60s are shit
i had a little practice at launching tonight but it spins so bad basically has to be half throttle til 4th gear lol
racelogic on 10% sounded like engine was running on 2 cylinders so i backed straight of and switched it off, if its the same on the other settings it aint ever gonna be used, i think i will be driving it by the right foot tbh at pod terminal speed will tell the story even if 60s are shit
I see that jamie guy uses 888's and said he only has wheel spin probs in 1st.
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305/30/19s
i had a little practice at launching tonight but it spins so bad basically has to be half throttle til 4th gear lol
racelogic on 10% sounded like engine was running on 2 cylinders so i backed straight of and switched it off, if its the same on the other settings it aint ever gonna be used, i think i will be driving it by the right foot tbh at pod terminal speed will tell the story even if 60s are shit
i had a little practice at launching tonight but it spins so bad basically has to be half throttle til 4th gear lol
racelogic on 10% sounded like engine was running on 2 cylinders so i backed straight of and switched it off, if its the same on the other settings it aint ever gonna be used, i think i will be driving it by the right foot tbh at pod terminal speed will tell the story even if 60s are shit
You should have a meet with Phil, I sure you would both enjoy having a look round each others cars and I know he sorted the Racelogic himself so he could possibly advise you with how to set it up.
Great pics BTW, its a stunning looking car
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On one of the YouTube videos of JamieP's car, the one that shows just the speedo from 0-190mph on his new digital dash unit is fucking immense... the speed that the numbers rise is frightening for a road car to be honest.
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for that price there is no way that that engine is right. I know the engine builder next door charges 12k for a all singing all dancing four pot motor....
competition engines dont really deteriorate in value if they are good ones, can't see that making 900hp and being 28k somehow. A box to hold that back going to be +10k...
i wouldn't personally put down that money on a car with that engine without being there to see the engine being put together.
competition engines dont really deteriorate in value if they are good ones, can't see that making 900hp and being 28k somehow. A box to hold that back going to be +10k...
i wouldn't personally put down that money on a car with that engine without being there to see the engine being put together.
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Supra transmission is massively over-engineered, the Getrag 6-speeders won't be a problem, even well into 4 figure horsepower figures. To be fair, it seems like performance Toyotas of that time were built to withstand huge abuse because an ST205 transmission is good for very big power and hard use as well.
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for that price there is no way that that engine is right. I know the engine builder next door charges 12k for a all singing all dancing four pot motor....
competition engines dont really deteriorate in value if they are good ones, can't see that making 900hp and being 28k somehow. A box to hold that back going to be +10k...
i wouldn't personally put down that money on a car with that engine without being there to see the engine being put together.
competition engines dont really deteriorate in value if they are good ones, can't see that making 900hp and being 28k somehow. A box to hold that back going to be +10k...
i wouldn't personally put down that money on a car with that engine without being there to see the engine being put together.
for reference his engine when running up to 900bhp is only 264bhp per litre, thats like a 528bhp cosworth which are everywhere, actually at the moment his is like a 445bhp yb which is common as muck.
stock bottom ends have been taken over 1000bhp and held together
also stock gearboxes have been subjected to over 1200bhp and ran high 8sec passes and been ok.
everything on them is very much over engineered so its no suprise it can easily knock out the numbers it does.
I think from what ive seen on this car id probably change the turbo to a gt4088 or a bw s366 as you will be running around 750bhp but with much better spool.
this will calm down the sharp transition of boost so wont spin the wheels as easy.
unless you really want 900bhp, then id sort out some meth injection and turn the boost up and put some more timing in
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for that price there is no way that that engine is right. I know the engine builder next door charges 12k for a all singing all dancing four pot motor....
competition engines dont really deteriorate in value if they are good ones, can't see that making 900hp and being 28k somehow. A box to hold that back going to be +10k...
i wouldn't personally put down that money on a car with that engine without being there to see the engine being put together.
competition engines dont really deteriorate in value if they are good ones, can't see that making 900hp and being 28k somehow. A box to hold that back going to be +10k...
i wouldn't personally put down that money on a car with that engine without being there to see the engine being put together.
have you even read the thread ? it made 759 rwhp so approx 872 fwhp last wednesday on tdis dyno, 636lbft aswell so around 730 lbft flywheel, it did numerous runs to the limiter in fifth gear which is approx 160 mph without issue, tdi built the engine originally and its just had a refresh and makes boost sooner so that alone proves it still has 3.4 stroker bottom end in it.
your correct it is cheap though, the total bill with tdi over the last 6 years for r and d and all parts and work is £90000 !
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but 900bhp isnt really that much in the 2jz world anyway, everyone on here is going mental because your used to drooling over 500bhp YB engines.
for reference his engine when running up to 900bhp is only 264bhp per litre, thats like a 528bhp cosworth which are everywhere, actually at the moment his is like a 445bhp yb which is common as muck.
stock bottom ends have been taken over 1000bhp and held together
also stock gearboxes have been subjected to over 1200bhp and ran high 8sec passes and been ok.
everything on them is very much over engineered so its no suprise it can easily knock out the numbers it does.
I think from what ive seen on this car id probably change the turbo to a gt4088 or a bw s366 as you will be running around 750bhp but with much better spool.
this will calm down the sharp transition of boost so wont spin the wheels as easy.
unless you really want 900bhp, then id sort out some meth injection and turn the boost up and put some more timing in
for reference his engine when running up to 900bhp is only 264bhp per litre, thats like a 528bhp cosworth which are everywhere, actually at the moment his is like a 445bhp yb which is common as muck.
stock bottom ends have been taken over 1000bhp and held together
also stock gearboxes have been subjected to over 1200bhp and ran high 8sec passes and been ok.
everything on them is very much over engineered so its no suprise it can easily knock out the numbers it does.
I think from what ive seen on this car id probably change the turbo to a gt4088 or a bw s366 as you will be running around 750bhp but with much better spool.
this will calm down the sharp transition of boost so wont spin the wheels as easy.
unless you really want 900bhp, then id sort out some meth injection and turn the boost up and put some more timing in
i dont actually consider it laggy though mate, tac is 500 rpm out which threw me at the start, over 400 whp by 4500 rpm is good imo, then on to nearly 900 hp aswell, its actually equiveland to a 2.0 yb at 514 bhp. it should be super safe as its on a full hks engine.
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ah my previous comment above is incorrect if its whp, i assumed it was flywheel horsepower and you werent running max boost, its a bit more of a beast on the rollers currently.
you running pure water or 50/50 mix? also hows your boost curve, bit of a spike then drop or hits its pre-determined boost then holds flat?
you running pure water or 50/50 mix? also hows your boost curve, bit of a spike then drop or hits its pre-determined boost then holds flat?
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ah my previous comment above is incorrect if its whp, i assumed it was flywheel horsepower and you werent running max boost, its a bit more of a beast on the rollers currently.
you running pure water or 50/50 mix? also hows your boost curve, bit of a spike then drop or hits its pre-determined boost then holds flat?
you running pure water or 50/50 mix? also hows your boost curve, bit of a spike then drop or hits its pre-determined boost then holds flat?
my missus said last night that is insane
1.8 bar saw 700 rwhp so the 0.2 bar is gaining 60 hp so in theory at 2.2 bar with nothing else done should see approx 810 rwhp.
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The guy locally that has the big power Supra has Racelogic and it worked spot on so maybe a fault somewhere with the setup.
You should have a meet with Phil, I sure you would both enjoy having a look round each others cars and I know he sorted the Racelogic himself so he could possibly advise you with how to set it up.
Great pics BTW, its a stunning looking car
You should have a meet with Phil, I sure you would both enjoy having a look round each others cars and I know he sorted the Racelogic himself so he could possibly advise you with how to set it up.
Great pics BTW, its a stunning looking car
maybe i exagerated abit it was like hitting a very soft limiter just enough to hold the engine back abit but i dont like it, id rather just drive by my right foot. it cant do the engine any good imo.
how long has he run the racelogic mate ? does he use the car hard alot with it switched on ?
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i think i have just noticed the main reason in the drop in power since old dyno run.
i have put the graph from 10/02/09 at top and graph from 27/04/11 below it.
as you can see as it was february inlet temp was 8d in 09 compared to 38d last week ! amb temp is only 8d difference i know but the heat in the engine bay must contribute to that as for it to hold 8d inl temp it must of been fookin cold that day.
i know the wi didnt work as it has never been plumbed in yet and intercooler is same one still. it was pretty hot in there last week when i was there.
this is all hub power
i just found temperatures for essex 10th february 2009 and it was heavy snow 2d c on that day ! pretty certain that would account for 20 hp as least wednesday was over 20d.
i have put the graph from 10/02/09 at top and graph from 27/04/11 below it.
as you can see as it was february inlet temp was 8d in 09 compared to 38d last week ! amb temp is only 8d difference i know but the heat in the engine bay must contribute to that as for it to hold 8d inl temp it must of been fookin cold that day.
i know the wi didnt work as it has never been plumbed in yet and intercooler is same one still. it was pretty hot in there last week when i was there.
this is all hub power
i just found temperatures for essex 10th february 2009 and it was heavy snow 2d c on that day ! pretty certain that would account for 20 hp as least wednesday was over 20d.
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maybe i exagerated abit it was like hitting a very soft limiter just enough to hold the engine back abit but i dont like it, id rather just drive by my right foot. it cant do the engine any good imo.
how long has he run the racelogic mate ? does he use the car hard alot with it switched on ?
how long has he run the racelogic mate ? does he use the car hard alot with it switched on ?
When I had been in the car in the past you literally couldn't feel the missfire as such but I remember having a laptop in the car and you could see how much it was working through that. I'll get hold of him and let you know what he has to say about, I've been out in it with the new engine after 2 bar tuning mapped it and its mentally fast, not far off yours power wise I believe, car looks dead stock though.
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The column "corr power" is the corrected column taking into account the temperature difference, so it shoudnt make any difference what temp it was run at to the figures in that column.
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the actual measured whp difference is 40hp seems easily accurrate considering 30d hotter, but it doesnt seem to have correlated this in the actual corrected whp figure, if it had i think the figures would be near almost identical.
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that correction is afaik based on ambient tempo though isnt it chip ? which is only 8 deg difference where sensor is sat under the air filter, i dont think it takes into account the inlet temp difference of 30d.
the actual measured whp difference is 40hp seems easily accurrate considering 30d hotter, but it doesnt seem to have correlated this in the actual corrected whp figure, if it had i think the figures would be near almost identical.
the actual measured whp difference is 40hp seems easily accurrate considering 30d hotter, but it doesnt seem to have correlated this in the actual corrected whp figure, if it had i think the figures would be near almost identical.
But it will certainly have taken it into account to some extent.
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The corrections are geared around N/A engines, so you may be right that the difference to a turbo where it effects both the intake temp to the turbo and also the intercooling efficiency might exagerate the effects, especially if the cooler isnt great.
But it will certainly have taken it into account to some extent.
But it will certainly have taken it into account to some extent.
it doesnt make sense the more i look at it chip, it basically didnt correct a run with inlet temps of 8c so showed what it made 780 rwhp, yet with 38d inlet temps it also hardly corrected it at all only 10 odd hp either way, yet an inlet temp of 8 deg must yield a fair bit more power than 38d as the air is much cooler and much more dense with oxygen.
the only dyno sensor was a sensor they put under the air filter, rpm feed and air inlet came direct from the ecu into there laptop.
looking at the uncorrected figures seem correct to me about 40 hp increase on a freezing cold day compared to summer heat.
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ive checked my rear suspension today as jamie is getting way more traction than me with more power ! my springs are set right no overloaded but the shocks were adjusted to full hard !
back end of the car felt very rigid before, now i wound of the adjuster there seems to be alot more bounce now so hopefully she will squat harder now and grip in 3rd, fingers crossed
jamie is gettin second gear grip at 902 fwhp on yokohamas with softly set rear shocks and springs
back end of the car felt very rigid before, now i wound of the adjuster there seems to be alot more bounce now so hopefully she will squat harder now and grip in 3rd, fingers crossed
jamie is gettin second gear grip at 902 fwhp on yokohamas with softly set rear shocks and springs