R5FORD

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Hi guys,

Got a problem.

Iv changed my rears to koni adjustables and have the soft setting or hard setting now one of the shocks wont lock into place in the hard setting.. it keeps rotating? Is this faulty?

Also i was coming of my drive and this is happening.. Iv got uprated standard ride height springs and this is the faulty shock side

dojj

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Have you got the adjusters that you have to compress the damper in all the way and turn to lock up or are they fitted with little twiddly k obs that you twiddle?

R5FORD

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Compress and turn mate

dojj

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Send it back mate. I would hazzard a guess that the valve inside has become unscrewed which is why it's not holding fluid like it should.

There are little plates inside with holes of various sizes to let more/less fluid through to stiffen/soften the ride which has probably got stuck in the fully opened position

R5FORD

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Ahhh il switch it with one of the old mans tomorrow and give it a go.. Im so frustrated the cars 99% done and have issues like this.

R5FORD

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Iv trimed the bodykit back as far as possible and like that the tyres geting jammed up against the bodykit/body. Might see if i can get 5mm machined of the wheel

BRAMMER

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That doesn't look right too low

martysmartie

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On mine there is a button you have to press and rotate whilst depressing it, can't remember whether I have to compress the shock or not, you should have three settings and so 3 clicks should be felt.

Martin

R5FORD

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Martin my passanger side had 2 clicks then locked into place the driver side has no clicks and i can feel a little bump when im assumsin its the harder position but it keeps spinning does not lock in.. Il take a pic of how it sits now

martysmartie

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Oh ok, it does sound faulty, the way it's sitting in that picture suggests this to.

Martin

R5FORD

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I should note that the original picture in the first post is when im pulling in on my driveway whi h has a slope.

nugnah

personally i have only ever had problems with Konis on the wifes sapph and mine but i know alot of people don't. I have found they blow easily when subjected to hard driving.

jas

R5FORD

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there brand new mate

nugnah

yup, i fitted brand new rears on the wifes car when i owned it lol and after about a hour of hard driving and launches i had blown one side, returned them and bought bilstein and never looked back , luckily there is a local rally supplier to me.

jas

R5FORD

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Ahhh ok .. mine have been like this since day one tho mate so guessing ones just faulty.

R5FORD

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Heres another pic on the driveway..

nugnah

looking at that i would suggest the shock has failed mate

jas

R5FORD

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Ahhh what a bummer.. Im all the way in oz aswel

nugnah

take it off and i bet you can compress the shock by hand just pressing on it. Put it between your feet and press down.

jason

R5FORD

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yh i can mate

nugnah

defo failed then mate, sorry bud

jas

R5FORD

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it still takes some effort to do tho mate and it rises back up again with a fair punch

nugnah

mmmm, drop the other side and compare

R5FORD

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bttt for any more thoughts

Turbosimpsons

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surely it's the spring that sets the height and not the shock, but it still sounds like your shock is faulty.

Rsmat

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Looks to me like the shocker is truely goosed.

Char1ie

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As above, ride height is set by the spring surely. If you take the shocks off the ride height shouldn't change. Do you have a mismatched pair of springs in there? Or a broken spring?

It must be something obvious when you pull it apart.

Charlie

R5FORD

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Nope same springs.. The springs have been custom made as i had this issue with ahmed spec springs.. Ahmed springs use a 13.5mm wire these are 16mm and are 5mm taller than standard height.

Its taken on my driveway so im sure all the weight is on the one side thus causing it to "bog down" but isit supposed to be that bad?

Char1ie

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Looks like your springs are too soft - which as the steel bar is thicker would be a surprise.

Is one side much worse than the other or is it just that you have much more travel at each rear corner than you would expect?

I would whip out the springs and go back to the Ahmed ones to compare. Feel free to remove the shocks while you check the springs.

Or you could take a custom spring and an Ahmed spring and put them side by side. Press down with your hands and see how they compare. Is the custom spring supposed to be stiffer than the Ahmed spring?

From the pics you have posted the ride height looks below standard, not higher than standard.

I'm guessing that your custom springs are much too soft and your shocks are fine. New Konis shouldn't fail so I would suspect springs. I assume you haven't driven it on the road yet so you don't know if it squats.

What spring rates did you ask for when you ordered the springs?


Charlie

R5FORD

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I have driven it on the road on the Ahmends and it was squatting and catching the body kit all over, I had the same problem with them when geting out my driveway it was catching the body kit and pretty much wedging the tyre aginst the body. The custom spring is about 7mm taller than the Ahmed one and i was told the ahmed ones were upgraded standard height springs?

The reason im suspecting the shock is because when i compress it ad lock the white button in to make it stiffer its not locking into place as on the passanger side it locks into place and i cant turn it no more but the driver side rotates freely.

Theres no way i can compress the custom spring by hand mate theres very little movment in the ahmed ones.

Im not sure what spring rate mate i took the springs to the suspensions guys and told them my problem they took the measurments and did the rate test etc and just ordered them which should of stoped this issue as the coil is 16mm compared to 13.5mm (ahmed)

Iv also tried some saph AVO rear springs which were 14mm thickness and 10mm taller than the Ahmed ones and still had the exact same issue.

Turbosimpsons

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you have a problem somewhere wich imo is spring related. your car should sit level with equal springs. if you take the shocks off does the car still sit lower on 1 side. i have my suspisions it will.

R5FORD

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Its not sitting lower on one side mate..Thats on a slanted surface so all the weight is on that rear corner.. My question was should it be doing that to that extent?

nugnah

if your springs are hard enough, no it shouldn't move to that extent, springs are rated by pundage, ie it takes a certain amount of downward pressure(weight) to compress the spring 1 inch. So driving onto and off your drive at slow speeds it should not move at all.

It sounds like a combination of failed shock and spring issues mate.

jas

Char1ie

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But if you had one failed shock you would see problems only on that corner.

You are saying that both rear corners are too soft?

Charlie

R5FORD

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No just that one side im assuming mate i cant even get the car out the drive way as the tyre locks up against the body. So atm its just the one side

Turbosimpsons

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no it should not move that much. i'd say the springs you have had made are way too soft.

R5FORD

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On all 3 sets? Avos, ahmed and the custom ones?

nugnah

ok so you have 3 sets of springs, AVO (reputable manufacturer), Ahmed (reputable manufacturer) and a custom supplier(probably reputable) lol , if all 3 manufacturers result in the same result i say something is really wrong with your car, i would start looking at the trailing arm or turret top to see if there is any damage or deformation.

jas

R5FORD

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When i had Coilovers on it drove fine just a little harsh iv had these problems since i fitted the konis and springs

nugnah

also check to see if the beam is secure to the chassis as they have a habit of rusting, and are you experiencing a huge amount of rearward beam movement due to the beam moving backwards.

jas