TimC

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I know its a Vauxhall, and it is very shit, but you will definetly need more then a Mondeo TDCi

Rs Baz

i own an astra 1.7 dti best car ive ever had its 53 plate

i wouldnt touch a new ford there fucking shit

most mondeo's around 2003 and 2004 plate sound like thay have no oil in the engine rough as fuck what about the focus worse seats ever there bloody hard to sit in,

as for the transit how many of you can say you have got a transit from 2003 on and say you have never had trouble with it i beleve there not very good,

pmsl at the comments that there rot box's or rust i think some of you are forgetting so are fords thay rot aswell

djmillsy

quite like the new vxr8 insignia thing and i like the mk3 gte my mate dads had one form new was mint but domtlike the restof them had a vectra and a corsa had them fora totral of 2 weeks and sold them

crumpet

Ah its the reliable TDDI though, never missed a beat

I know fords have their shitters aswell like the tdci engne and rust, id rather push a ford than drive a vauxhall!

caprizetec170

I had a vectra b 140 for a year thought it was cracking car once ya changed rear bushes every 10k and engine did rattle like fuck and burn oil for sport but kept on going and pulled me capri all over the place
Saying that there new vans are a pure joke me mate is kept in business rebuilding gearboxs and replacing turbos on them give me a transit anyday

S1

Mk2 Astravan were the thing to have when I started driving, they pissed over most other things a young driver could afford to run!

Chip

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My nova is the vauxhall I hate most at the moment, cause Ive got to take the fecking gearbox off yet again as the slave cylinder hyper extended and fucked

saphlover

My step dad had 1 too, I liked it too

Oranoco

I wouldn't go as far as to say I hate any especially. I certainly have a very soft spot for nicely fettled Vauxhalls. It's just their run of the mill day to day cars are as appealing as a dose of the clap.

Mate of mine has the 2.5 TD Vivaro, beats the Hell out of it every day and it's only had a couple of minor niggles in 4 years

RS_JAY

Horses for courses. I've had a few vauxhalls myself and haven't had any trouble with them. Have to admit that I love my fords, but I'm sure if there was the same topic on the vauxhall site they'll be plenty of people spotting the flaws with fords. Like I say, horse for courses.

crumpet

biggest vauxhall forum in the uk probably the world is migweb though, and its wank.

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

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[FORD BLINKERS]

I hate all of them

[/FORD BLINKERS]

tabetha

I like some vaux's, rust wise I have always found mine to be better than the same age fords by a hell of a long way, as std they are a bit dull, or rather basic I see it as, my gf's 17 y/o mk3 astra still hasn't been welded, and has no rust despite way over 100,000 miles.
I hate the very weak seats in them though, always had to weld them up, maybe it's cos I'm a fat git ?
I like the simplicity of some engines though like the j series, take all the abuse and come back for more, I'd have a mk2 or 3 astra before a mk3 or 4 escort any day of the week.
tabetha

RS Grant

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My old man had an Omega CDX V6 Estate when they were new out, was a fantastic car, so comfy, no hassle on long journeys, nippy enough, reliable all the way until he traded it in on about 180k miles. So when I needed a large runaround for lugging stuff/dogs around then I went and bought an Omega Elite Estate with around 80k on it... not the coolest thing in the world to look at, but it did everything that I needed it to and was crazy high spec (heated seats front and rear, nav, cruise, climate, etc etc) the money it cost to buy was peanuts compared to german rivals.

Only got rid because I got offered an RS2000 for a price I couldn't say no to.

I'd say that was a fairly run of the mill Vauxhall and it was fantastic, I'd have another one to smoke around in an instant.



Vauxhall (Omegas..) FTW!!


Cheers,
Grant

rog

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Signum and Belmont are top of my "haters" list! But having said that I would own a Vauxhall, they're not all bad.
When ford churn out such monstocities as the Scorpio, Cougar, Puma, Focus cabriolet and saloon to name a few, then who are we to judge?

crumpet

yea but ford also made some shit hot cars like

Rs500, rs200, rs1700t, rs2000, rs1800, mexico, saph cos, 3 door cos, escort cos, s1 rst, and probably some more!

martysmartie

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LOL yes so rubbish that they are one of the biggest car manufactures in the world, take the success of the Mondeo compared to the hideous Vectra for example, sure your entitled to your opinion but to say there rubbish is far of the mark.

Yes the older models rusted but no worse than other cars of the time, again it's technology better quality steel etc and protection etc that has improved this as we know it today.

All modern diesels suffer with problems, the modern TDCI Fords are no worse with the exception of the injector problems the Mondeos seem to suffer with.

Never known that with the Mondeos as it's a mile munching car, in fact the worse cars for this are the Vauxhall Corsa's.

I am a enthusiast so have nothing against any car manufacture, just saying what I know.

Martin

R4N SS

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to be honest i hate vaulhalls too, but after owning my astra g 1.7 diesel i can honestly say its been the most reliable and incredibly cheap to run than any other car i have owned.

Owned it for over 3 years now and no real problems and it just loves to run on homebrew biofuel with no mods needed - my fuel price is around half of what you all pay

its not the fastest or the most exciting but in terms of daily driving it does what it needs to and you can leave it anywhere without having to worry

i actually wanted a mondeo or a focus when i was at the auction but they were all fooked and most likely would suffer from DMF, injector or pump issues, which i not had with the ashtray.

mk1trb

actually they were in 1989, john cleland in the astra gte 16v. only bacause of the shitty point system used around the time.

I am ford through and through but have had my tigra runaround(it was Ł200) for nearly a year and has always started and got me where i needed to go including ford fair when my escort decided to fuck up the day before the show, yes it has shit interior the biggest steering wheel in the world ever, i bang my head on the a pillar everytime i get in and out and trying to get my dogs in it is hilarious but old skool vx's hav a wierd sort of charm about them, they just dont do corners.

martysmartie

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The DMF is an issue on any car equipped with one though, Petrol or Diesel it makes no difference, the Mondeos do suffer from injector problems though, the DPF again is another example of an unified problem.

Martin

phil_rs

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The equivalent focus compared to your astra is a far superior car IMO. Nothing wrong with Vauxhalls, I really like the look of the new Insignia's but old ones did rust but then so did old Fords

damien roe

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funny enough i own a cav gsi and a saph cossie and im happy with both tbh

syko2005

I've owned loads of vauxhalls over the years. A couple of astra gte's, cav sri's, nova gte's and sr, calibre and even an old 2.0 Carlton which was shit.
The newest was a astra g sxi and to be honest they have all been reliable, reasonable on fuel and went well for what they were.
Id rather buy a Vaux than any Renault , Citroen, or pug.

rog

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Really, I forgot about those...

dearing5

i own a corsa, my c20let has been very reliable. there's always going to be some bored twat like you sitting on his computer thinking what thread can i make next...

ford boys will hate vauxhalls an vauxhalls will hate fords, altough i love my fords but would prob never buy one....

t16coupe

i dont like the new vaxhalls the corsa and astra vxr but some of the old ones are cool the mk2 cav sri and the cav gsi 2000 fwd

chaffe

Like cosworths werent technicaly made by ford lol pmsl

dojj

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other than certain vx engines, i can't really say that vx cars are anything special in the same way that you can get into say a standard focus and have fun in it

been for a short tootle in a new corsa and it's just not the same, it's just another car rather than something you look forward to

it's like comparing going on holiday to going to work

massivewangers

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Have you ever spent proper time driving a Puma out of interest? Because I don't think it belongs on that list at all. Yes it's a bit pokey inside, and girly looking, but it handles really nicely out of the box, and is revvy and willing. To put it into the context of this thread; the Tigra (it's only real rival) was an awful car by comparison. The Puma is a fantastic little car I think. Can be had for peanuts and really fun to drive, even in standard form.

I think that sums it up in many ways. The cooking model Vauxhalls just having nothing going for them. They lack feel and any kind of excitement that a lot of basic Fords can offer. If you compare the Focus to the Astra, Fiesta to Corsa, Mondeo to Vectra, the Ford is always the better drive.

I had a Vectra CDTI and it was a decent enough car to drive about in, but by no means a fun drive. Just plain. Plain inside, plain outside, plain to drive. It was a tool, nothing more. And I think most of them are like that. Even some of the sporting ones. There's little connection.

And as for people saying modern Fords are shit; erm, are Vauxhalls any better? I had a Vectra C and had trouble with it, my friend had trouble with his. See loads of issues on the forums with diesel ones too. My friend's 2.2 was a pain in the arse as well.

All cars have their problems, people just pick up on them to help force their arguement, ignoring the ones that would hurt them.

rog

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No I haven't, but I'd never own one, and I agree with "pokey inside, and girly looking" as you put it. Each to their own.

massivewangers

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Drive one. Honestly. Buy one for a bird and steal it. My missus has one and it's fantastic. Take it for a blat down the lanes and it's a big grin inducer. Much like a Fez Zetec-S, just with more power.

S1rst

I like some vauxhalls just as much as a like some fords. And i also hate some vauxhalls just as much as i hate some fords. Lets face it, neither are high end cars so they all have therte bad points. Most of it is purely opinions though.

Go on a vauxhall forum and im sure we'd see exactly the same things said about fords, so its pointless really.

rog

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You might have persuaded me to have a shot of one but there's definately going to be no buying involved! (She would never entertain an "old" car unfortunately.)
Her last car was a Lowered 1.3i Ka and it was brilliant fun, so i can see where your coming from, not saying they're bad cars I just don't really like the look of them but I'm sure they are good to drive.

massivewangers

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Yes but the difference is; they're wrong

dojj

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no matter how good you make a vx, the ford seems to be more than just the sum of it's parts, you give a vx a big powerfull engine and 4wd and no matter how quick it is and how much tech it's got in it, it's just a powerfull car with 4wd and loads of tech, much like an audi or jap stuff, but with the ford you sense that there is just that little bit more going on but it's not quantifiable

crumpet

yea because your sad as fuck,whats the point bein here? go back onto migweb you cunt, your cars probably ''rapid'' at 12 psi on a standard k16 too aint it

mechanic28

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nothing wrong with vauxhalls!if anything ford need to catch up with vauxhall now days!

naturally aspirated

Don't forget the Mk1 RS 3100 Capri
Mines hell in a straight line!!

crumpet

z16leh engines, Yea man lets melt some pistons!! z20leh ot z20let, yeaa lets throw some rods out the block, Monaro v8, oooh were using a v8 from a chevrolet, all 1.2-2.0 engines are gutless, the cdti's are poor and the 150 cdti engines seem good but have traction control you cant turn off which is shit, plus theyre all fat and weigh more than ze moon

Rs3100 capri is so rare i forgot about it mate sorry lol

Cameron

I'll second that, sometimes drive my girlfriends and it drives much much better than my daily zetec-s even though its based on the same car