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So, i attempted to replace the rear discs and pads, on my own, with no real idea what to do. Couldnt even find a step by step guide!!
Only clue i had was that yesterday i went to my mates who has every tool going, airlines, etc etc and we did the front ones.
First i had to remember what tools we'd use and go buy them!!
Then get my little jack out the boot and cross bar thing to get the nuts off, took wheel off.....and its completely different!!
Anyway, Im quite proud that i managed to replace the disc (with a grooved one) and pads (with kevlar ones).
This would have really made my abolute life if Id remembered that yesterday we took the brake reseviour cap off.
Couldnt get the piston to push back, therefore caliper wouldnt go on.
Ended up putting old pads back on just to put it all back together.
Tried on other wheel, took one bolt out the caliper and piston wouldnt push back so left it and put it back together.
Im furious now that i know it was because of the cap. I even thought it must be to do with the fluid pressure and undid the bleed nipple, clamped and unclamped the line etc etc.
AAARRRGGGHHHH.
I did do well though didnt i???!!!!!!
It took me about 15mins to get the caliper bolts out with me smashing fuck out the ratchet with a hammer!
I have to go out tomorrow aswell but now i know and all the bolts have been cleaned up ill hopefully get at least one side done tomorrow.
Hmph, cant decide if im pleased, furious or both!!!
Only clue i had was that yesterday i went to my mates who has every tool going, airlines, etc etc and we did the front ones.
First i had to remember what tools we'd use and go buy them!!
Then get my little jack out the boot and cross bar thing to get the nuts off, took wheel off.....and its completely different!!
Anyway, Im quite proud that i managed to replace the disc (with a grooved one) and pads (with kevlar ones).
This would have really made my abolute life if Id remembered that yesterday we took the brake reseviour cap off.
Couldnt get the piston to push back, therefore caliper wouldnt go on.
Ended up putting old pads back on just to put it all back together.
Tried on other wheel, took one bolt out the caliper and piston wouldnt push back so left it and put it back together.
Im furious now that i know it was because of the cap. I even thought it must be to do with the fluid pressure and undid the bleed nipple, clamped and unclamped the line etc etc.
AAARRRGGGHHHH.
I did do well though didnt i???!!!!!!
It took me about 15mins to get the caliper bolts out with me smashing fuck out the ratchet with a hammer!
I have to go out tomorrow aswell but now i know and all the bolts have been cleaned up ill hopefully get at least one side done tomorrow.
Hmph, cant decide if im pleased, furious or both!!!
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The rear piston needs wound in as you push it back as it's threaded![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
p.s. Brakes are easy to do if you know what your doing, but something that shouldn't be fucked about with if you don't, it could be the difference between life & death (yours or someone elses), sounds overly cautious but it's not unknown to happen!
Tips to make your life easier:
wire brush nut heads to remove dirt/rust. spray with WD, leave for ten mins before removing.
wire brush caliper carrier where pad's move back and forth or clean/replace shims if they are present (should be on a sub?) also copper grease where the pad contacts.
copper grease back of pad where piston touches, not loads just a thin layer.
remove sliding pins from caliper carrier (they may come out easy, they may be jammed, but they should slide easily) (where caliper bolt, bolt's onto, has a rubber boot, just give it a tug and it should come off, bit of wet and dry with some WD to clean the crap off and re-copper grease and refit, making sure rubber boot is seated back onto carrier properly)
piston needs pushed back in as said, and turned clockwise at the same time, there is a tool to make life easy but a big pair of adjustable mole grips and some carefull piston seal dodging, they can be wound back in a turn/pushed/wound back in a turn/pushed etc etc until they look home.
My advice to you would be to get the torque settings for all the bolts, and use a torque wrench. As a novice (no offence) you won't have the 'feel' for how tight a bolt 'should' be (comes with experience
) and may end up snapping a bolt/pulling threads out or not tightening it enough.
HTH.
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p.s. Brakes are easy to do if you know what your doing, but something that shouldn't be fucked about with if you don't, it could be the difference between life & death (yours or someone elses), sounds overly cautious but it's not unknown to happen!
Tips to make your life easier:
wire brush nut heads to remove dirt/rust. spray with WD, leave for ten mins before removing.
wire brush caliper carrier where pad's move back and forth or clean/replace shims if they are present (should be on a sub?) also copper grease where the pad contacts.
copper grease back of pad where piston touches, not loads just a thin layer.
remove sliding pins from caliper carrier (they may come out easy, they may be jammed, but they should slide easily) (where caliper bolt, bolt's onto, has a rubber boot, just give it a tug and it should come off, bit of wet and dry with some WD to clean the crap off and re-copper grease and refit, making sure rubber boot is seated back onto carrier properly)
piston needs pushed back in as said, and turned clockwise at the same time, there is a tool to make life easy but a big pair of adjustable mole grips and some carefull piston seal dodging, they can be wound back in a turn/pushed/wound back in a turn/pushed etc etc until they look home.
My advice to you would be to get the torque settings for all the bolts, and use a torque wrench. As a novice (no offence) you won't have the 'feel' for how tight a bolt 'should' be (comes with experience
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HTH.
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i'd say furious........even a mate for a pointer or two and let you do all the work lol....after all your still learning hun....10/10 for effort though......i struggle to pull myself to the garage lately.
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Good for you I am getting lazier and lazier when it comes to my cars,use to attepmt most things but would never touch brakes though as I tend to lose my yemper and either kick the car or hit with the hammer
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oh bugger, more tool-age needed!!
Aye, cant blame me mate though, he was on dialysis today for hours then went straight to bed bless him. I did call some scooby dude but i guess hed presumed i knew to take the bastard cap off the brake fluid ressy.
I used the hammer quite a lot. Ive learnt that whatever gets stuck (sockets and bolts) just smash it with a hammer!!
Left-Hooker- ok thanks, ill try something like that!
I used the hammer quite a lot. Ive learnt that whatever gets stuck (sockets and bolts) just smash it with a hammer!!
Left-Hooker- ok thanks, ill try something like that!
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I wish it was used on the bolts,was doinga wter pipe on an old 205 diesel mum had and couldnt get the pipe to go back on sit hit the wing with a hammer and dented,mum was not pleased
and was doing something on a old sierra estate I had once and the bolt would not go back on so kicked the door then remembered I ahd steel toe capped boots a nice big dent in the door,luckily though it popped back out after taking the door trim off.
Oh well when I buy a Puma you can do the camblet for me Ellie
and was doing something on a old sierra estate I had once and the bolt would not go back on so kicked the door then remembered I ahd steel toe capped boots a nice big dent in the door,luckily though it popped back out after taking the door trim off.
Oh well when I buy a Puma you can do the camblet for me Ellie
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Thanks Ran and RSMat!!!
And yeah, has shoes for the handbrake. Couldnt be arsed with that. Too many springs and stuff. Took me ages (and a phonecall) to locate the rubber grommet to take out so i could slacken off the handbrake cable thing!!.
Im suprised my head isnt banging!!!
Left-hooker- ill use just a normal pair of big plyer things and i dont have long-nose plyers (i know what they are) but ill try some other ones.
(i dont have a G-clamp either)
And yeah, has shoes for the handbrake. Couldnt be arsed with that. Too many springs and stuff. Took me ages (and a phonecall) to locate the rubber grommet to take out so i could slacken off the handbrake cable thing!!.
Im suprised my head isnt banging!!!
Left-hooker- ill use just a normal pair of big plyer things and i dont have long-nose plyers (i know what they are) but ill try some other ones.
(i dont have a G-clamp either)
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you'd struggle to get a rear caliper piston back in without a wind back tool! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-33606.../dp/B0001K9SSO
fair play for having a bash.
My mrs just hands me the keys and says the brakes are making a funny noise
fair play for having a bash.
My mrs just hands me the keys and says the brakes are making a funny noise
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ill try turning it whilst pushing it back then.
Yeh the front n/s bad was worn out and grinding so thought i might aswell stick grooved discs and kevlar pads on all round just incase i decide to go for a bit more power soon.
Got no fucker to hand my keys to, if i breaks or needs replacing i sort it myself!
Even diagnosed a leak on my old civic as power steering hose, ordered new part and fitted it. Job done!!
(yes im pleased with myself now!!)
Yeh the front n/s bad was worn out and grinding so thought i might aswell stick grooved discs and kevlar pads on all round just incase i decide to go for a bit more power soon.
Got no fucker to hand my keys to, if i breaks or needs replacing i sort it myself!
Even diagnosed a leak on my old civic as power steering hose, ordered new part and fitted it. Job done!!
(yes im pleased with myself now!!)
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I have had many cars ranging from a Mk3 XR3 to a MK6 RS2000 was my proper car,at the momnet own a toyota G6 and proton.
But over the years must have had 80+ cars and a couple of vans could list em all but would cnat be assed tonight Glenn
But over the years must have had 80+ cars and a couple of vans could list em all but would cnat be assed tonight Glenn
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It has indeed been a while! Been quite busy so spend most my time on here reading as opposed to replying.
Like I say, I'm glad you had a go yourself instead of pulling faces like most girls would do in case they broke a nail, or got dirty!
Like I say, I'm glad you had a go yourself instead of pulling faces like most girls would do in case they broke a nail, or got dirty!
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Nice to see ya about again Daz.
Nails are a mess like but nobody will be looking at them other than me, and then i might chew them!!! haha!!
Ill just have a go with whatever tools i find.
Nails are a mess like but nobody will be looking at them other than me, and then i might chew them!!! haha!!
Ill just have a go with whatever tools i find.
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I've always been about, just they've been a quick visit, read something and then gone again as I can never be arsed!! Nice to speak to you again by the way.
Caliper wind back tools are pretty cheap. You don't need to spend a fortune on one you might only use one or twice a year but they're well worth buying for someone who doesn't have loads of experience.
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So, i attempted to replace the rear discs and pads, on my own, with no real idea what to do. Couldnt even find a step by step guide!!
Only clue i had was that yesterday i went to my mates who has every tool going, airlines, etc etc and we did the front ones.
First i had to remember what tools we'd use and go buy them!!
Then get my little jack out the boot and cross bar thing to get the nuts off, took wheel off.....and its completely different!!
Anyway, Im quite proud that i managed to replace the disc (with a grooved one) and pads (with kevlar ones).
This would have really made my abolute life if Id remembered that yesterday we took the brake reseviour cap off.
Couldnt get the piston to push back, therefore caliper wouldnt go on.
Ended up putting old pads back on just to put it all back together.
Tried on other wheel, took one bolt out the caliper and piston wouldnt push back so left it and put it back together.
Im furious now that i know it was because of the cap. I even thought it must be to do with the fluid pressure and undid the bleed nipple, clamped and unclamped the line etc etc.
AAARRRGGGHHHH.
I did do well though didnt i???!!!!!!
It took me about 15mins to get the caliper bolts out with me smashing fuck out the ratchet with a hammer!
I have to go out tomorrow aswell but now i know and all the bolts have been cleaned up ill hopefully get at least one side done tomorrow.
Hmph, cant decide if im pleased, furious or both!!!
Only clue i had was that yesterday i went to my mates who has every tool going, airlines, etc etc and we did the front ones.
First i had to remember what tools we'd use and go buy them!!
Then get my little jack out the boot and cross bar thing to get the nuts off, took wheel off.....and its completely different!!
Anyway, Im quite proud that i managed to replace the disc (with a grooved one) and pads (with kevlar ones).
This would have really made my abolute life if Id remembered that yesterday we took the brake reseviour cap off.
Couldnt get the piston to push back, therefore caliper wouldnt go on.
Ended up putting old pads back on just to put it all back together.
Tried on other wheel, took one bolt out the caliper and piston wouldnt push back so left it and put it back together.
Im furious now that i know it was because of the cap. I even thought it must be to do with the fluid pressure and undid the bleed nipple, clamped and unclamped the line etc etc.
AAARRRGGGHHHH.
I did do well though didnt i???!!!!!!
It took me about 15mins to get the caliper bolts out with me smashing fuck out the ratchet with a hammer!
I have to go out tomorrow aswell but now i know and all the bolts have been cleaned up ill hopefully get at least one side done tomorrow.
Hmph, cant decide if im pleased, furious or both!!!
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Lewis -thanks
dug112y-haha well i was doing exactly that and even shouted 'aagghh ya fucker' when it come loose!!!
Staffy- hmm ok, ill have to see how much time i have other wise i might be best leaving it til saturday.
Stu21t-will do!!
dug112y-haha well i was doing exactly that and even shouted 'aagghh ya fucker' when it come loose!!!
Staffy- hmm ok, ill have to see how much time i have other wise i might be best leaving it til saturday.
Stu21t-will do!!