vaughant

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Following on from dojj's thread earlier about that facebook shemale who,despite being a complete retard,was effectively "grassed up" by a colleague.

To me,the person who grassed her up is at the same level as dogshit under my shoe,very low!!and let's not even start on internet forum tell tales,we'll be here all night!!

There's been people in my life who have royally shit on me and I've often been tempted to phone the dss,police,council whatever just to fuck them up but I've never done it and I don't honestly think I ever could?

Personally,I was always brought up never to "grass" on anyone but if I'm honest I don't think I could go to prison knowing something wasn't my fault when I knew who had really done it was outside living it up.

What are your thoughts on it?

BM08

If it really affects your life somehow then why not grass them? if it doesnt effect you in anyway what so ever and you still grass then thats a different story

nichol4s

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If the cap fits wear it!! That's what I say!!!

JoeE30

Got no time for a grass

Mark_

depends on the situation,

MadMac

Depends, if its something petty, like Dojjs thread what people are saying on Facebook, then probably wouldn't care.

If its someone actually doing wrong with intention to hurt someones feelings, or do wrong, then yes.

RichieST

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As above, depends on the situation. I personally wouldn't grass someone who is stealing from the stationary cupboard, but if I know someone who mugged someone or similar, then yes I would grass.

Big-Dan

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I agree with Mac and Rich, if that makes me a "grass" then so be it..

Big-Dan.

Csm

Depends on the situation tbh

I dont normally like a grass but if needs must then fuck it cos it seems others dont think twice at times even whren they are wrong and dont know key facts etc etc

vaughant

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Just a note that I'm only playing devils advocate on this one,I'm not planning on becoming a grass!!!!!!

I wasn't sure if it's just a generation thing not to do it or society as a whole.

I know boys who have grassed i expect to save their own skin and I currently know a mate of mine is in jail who,although not wholly innocent by any means was certainly NOT the ringleader,yet is there for a long time.I'm assuming because he kept schtum?

xr2john

Ive been in this situation in the past and trust me it's not an easy decision to make.

I was in Situation many 15 yrs ago where I was being blamed for something that had nothing to do with me and found myself in the high court ( Scotland ) being charged with armed robbery. I was told it was likely that I would be found guilty and sentenced to between 5 & 8 yrs unless I stood up and told what I knew.
I did actually think about taking my chances on the jury but my then girlfriend told me to wise up as I didn't owe the real culprits anything and it was them that had tried to set me up for the fall to get off theirselves and I ended standing up in the dock and told the truth and THEY all ended getting off on a technicality.

But they could have went down and it would have been down too me but I honestly don't think I would have lost any sleep over it.

I suppose it all depends on the circumstances at the time and what the end result could be for yourself

fordsportjay

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not grassing probably cost me 6 months of my life in 1993.
i got involved in a large fight outside a nightclub that got very nasty-tools,people going through windows etc! out of the 8 of us on one side and the 10-12 on the other side,only 5 got dragged in.(me and a mate from my side).
the police were so desperate to get the names of the others but couldnt prove it,even though they were firing the right names at me. i kept quiet and said i didnt know....
it was brought up in crown court that i was not co-operative with the police= ended up with 12 months jail!

jamie's

if they set you up then fuck them,
they would obviously do it to you(as they did),
but the way to look at it is would they do it to you?
unless your 100% sure they would stick you in without blinking an eye
then never say anything, thats the way i see it anyhow

Neil@FastFord

I have the attitude of grasses being scum, have no time for it and they are usually spineless rats...but there are always grey areas.

john_p_b

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depends on the situation, i got called a grass at work a while back as some old twat thought it was funny to constantly fuck up your work meaning you had to start again or bin what you were doing but i'd had enough one day, it was a choice between laying him out or talking to my boss, i didn't see the point lossing my job over the kind of person he was so did the latter. to this day he calls me all the names under the sun but everyone knows what a cunt he is and he ended up back on the shitty job he was on before so in that situation i feel i was right to "grass" as it saved me potentially lossing my job.

xr2john

Belive it took a lot more balls to stand up there and tell the truth than it did to stay quiet.

When I think about it now I did the right thing. You better hope your never in that position with that attitude or you won't be seeing your kids for a while like i did in the past. It's not nice belive me m8

Jay,

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Do you and Dan get on then ? because he will grass any fucker as long as he dont get caught smoking a Moroccan cigar

rapid3door

see if they was setting you up then it dont make you a grass mate

Neil@FastFord

Wasn't knocking you mate. As said, always grey areas. I don't know all the ins and outs of your tale. Wasn't making reference too it.

Jay

No, i hate that big stinking grass!

I'm quite set in my ways and attitudes, would prefer to deal with matters directly or keep quiet myself. Depending on situations. But i did read that thread your referring to, grey areas with everything, especially grassing. My general attitude is it is a lowlife cunts trick, but depends on the situation totally.

Neil@FastFord

This slang for cock?

I know he smokes that, on the regular.

rapid3door

no one likes a grass ive seen a few get seriously hurt in prison a few times

Jay,

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xr2john

No one likes a grass ive seen a few get seriously hurt in prison a few times


Yes me to been quite a few stabbings,slashings, coshings in my younger days and it's not pretty.I saw a guys insides pretty much fall out.
At the end of the day you will always do what you think is right at the time

Shorty

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Good on you Jay. Was talking to Diva today about "grassing" and how i'd never do it, its just not right IMO.

Psycho Warren

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depends what your grassing for. although one thing i have noticed is the whole "grass" attitude and culture thing is a very working class "fuck the system" belief.

now if your neighbour has left his bin out one day too long or he did 31 in a 30 then calling the feds is pathetic. wether you choose to call it grassing or not depends on your beliefs Its just dealing with people, many minor issues should be dealt with by you personally as thats why we have a pair of balls hanging between our legs....

However, i dont see reporting serious criminals as grassing. In fact its your moral and civic duty to either report serious crime or sort the fuckers out because i cant see hardly ANY circumstances where the greater good would be served by not having serious criminals dealt with.

vigilante action is an acceptable alternative to reporting criminals to the police IMO but you have to do it properly and often a good vigilante beating of a scum bag sends a stronger message to the cuntface than getting arrested, released and an extra few hours to their community order which they disobey anyway!!

and yes i consider benefit fraud/dole scrounging/drug dealing serious crimes. it may be an ingrained part of culture and almost a way of life for the underclass but that doesnt make it acceptable.

otherwise if you dont report it/ do something about it then IMO you have NO right to whinge about the negative impact of the crime you failed to deal with.

just look at many poor areas/stereotypical council estates, if people grassed up the dealers, the benefit scroungers, burglers, scum etc then those estates would be far nicer places - FACT.

Lambchop

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Wooooaaaah.

Were they your "mates" or people you knew?

Were there no repercussions to you standing up there?

If I could be so nosey... where was the robbery and how the hell did you get linked to it?

xr2john

Aye they were so called mates at the time. There was 5 of us out one day up at hazelhead park havin a kick about when these 2 half wits decided to go and rob the caravan site shop for the huge sum of Ł18.
They then came back and told us what they had done. Anyway police everywhere and everyone got chased and lifted apart from me as I was a bit too fast for the fuckers to catch. Anyway by the time I got home the police had already been at my house.
So I handed myself in with my solicitor at the time and said nowt and it turned out they had tried to blame it all on me saying it was all my idea and my knife etc etc so I got charged.
As for repurcutions yes there was. I was labelled as a grass and the two fuckers that actually did it jumped me and bottled me. Got the fuckers back one by one and I still see one of them going about from time to time and he doesn't even look my way.
He knows what's good for his health I suppose

It's Czech Mate

What Lind of a fucking country and life is it when there's a stigma attached to doing the right thing!??

If someone chooses to act like a cunt, break the law and then involve someone else they should man up to the consequences, not use the social fear of 'grassing'. Fucking pathetic IMO

If I was being hassled by the law for something and I knew who did it there would only be one outcome. My first loyalty is to do the right thing by my family, everything else comes second.

Lloyd

+1
its people not taking resposibility,and not standing up to this sort of behaviour,that is dragging this country into the shit.

Chip

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So if someone raped your mum and I knew who it was, you would prefer I didnt tell anyone?

I dont think thats a grey area at all.

People committing criminal offences tend to be the scum, and the people reporting them are normally decent folk.



Ridiculous lower class attitude that somehow helping the police do their job against the people who really are scum is somehow a bad thing not a good thing.


I dont like the police much but I certainly prefer them to muggers and rapists and theives and drug dealers


Pathetic to think otherwise IMHO

Chip

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Protecting your mates is admirable, I would probably do the same in that situation.
Thats totally different to just protecting random criminals who dont deserve any loyalty in the first place.

Chopshop85

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Sums its perfectly.

tabetha

I think I'm a professional grass, I've grassed people fro driving ringer cars, drink driving, which was formerly my best mate, I told him I'd grass if I caught him doing it, grassed people to DWP for working whilst on benefit, no insurance, no tax, forged tax disc, no mot bent mot.
I believe that it's about time people got real, my mum moans about things but never to the people who can alter the situation, what's the point.
I keep a list of untaxed cars I've reported, it's way over 100, I report cars that I see on ebay mostly vauxhalls with larger engines still taxed as smaller, and of course uninsured as a result, get around 10 a week from ebay and I appologise for jack shit.
I report dwp claimants as it is not fair on the taxpayer, without them the genuine dwp claimants would be stuffed, I report uninsured people as I don't want someone having the hassle that I've had being hit by a uninsured policeman's car, and why the f**k should we pay but not others.
I seriously believe you have a duty to report things that are wrong, if serious enough.
I lost my best mate through drink driving, but not as you think, I "lost" him as I reported him for drink driving, after telling him if he did it again and I found out I would report him, I don't want someones death on my hands so to speak when I can prevent it, he lost his job, his house his wife left him, but HE made the choice to drink and drive.
tabetha

Chip

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Tabetha, while I admire your public spirited attitude in principle, that does all sound a bit sad TBH

v man

if someone is effecting you or has damaged your belongings or property then grassing is ok in my book

but going out of your way to grass on people when it has nothing to do with you then thats gonna make you a prick

first thing is a smack in the teeth before anything

yellowsierra

As above
Going outa ya way to grass on someone is out of order
Most of us do something that is slightly "Wrong" from time to time and there is some that do it a little often than others....so fcuking what
Grassing is just not done
It earns you fcuk all and looses friends and respect
If you are a Grass then best keep quiet about it as its bound to bite you in the bum at some point
What goes around comes around
Rant over

dojj

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i've been in the position where it was either go down for half the time for grassing or do the full stretch and in that position i'd not grass

but that was when i was younger, i'm not sure i'd be foolish enough to do something that would limit my freedom now so wouldn't need to grass up my mates

but when people get on your nerves and act like tits, then grassing up is what they get for pissing you off

the other thing to ask is this:

at work, i'm in charge of a few lads and if they fuck up it reflects badly on me, so after having words with them, if i then tell my superiors, does that make me a grass? it's effectively the same thing isn't it?

1.9 xr2 on 40's

ive been tempted many times but ive never striped anyone up
i want to call the cops over a neighbour who walks his dogs buy driving away from them and doing the 2 mile block- what a cunt!

ive nearly hit them a few times cos he drives past and i go to pull out to find 2 dogs flat out to keep up


as far as anythign else if its not harming someone then why get invloved
if i knew of a child abuser or rapist then that fucker would get striped up 2nd to what would happen 1st but someone just bein weird (i dont know the tranny story) or whatever had no bearing on me

Psycho Warren

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he has too much time on his hands clearly!! even by my standards looking on ebay for illegal cars is going just a bit too far.

no time for drink drivers so fair play for reporting them even if its a mate. A mate would get one chance with my hands round their throat and if i hear of them doing it again then id set them up with the police as they need to learn.

tabetha

Chip do you wish you could have cheaper car insurance ?, I know I do, what kind of people do you think are causing part of the problem ?
What goes around comes around ?, yes very true, and YES I have been done in the past, 100% TOTALLY MY FAULT AS I MADE THE DECISION TO BREAK THE LAW.
I apologise for nothing, it is up to each individual to do what they think is right.
Speaking from experience of having been hit by a uninsured drink driver in 83 and spending 19 months in hospital the first three in a coma I adopted this as my pet hate.
27 years later I am about to undergo yet another operation as a direct result of the accident in 83.
I think if you were quite happy to have your mates driving uninsured just to remain buddies then your a sad twat, undeclared mods void insurance pure and simple.
Tell the recent girl killed in essex who's insurance was voided in court due to loads of undeclared mods on the car that hit her, who's parents are coming to terms with it.
It pisses me off when there are al the comments about doley bums, not all people on benefit are doley bums, "they don't pay tax", biggest crock of shite ever, please let me know where I get tax exemption on everything I buy and do, I would love not having to pay 80% odd tax on fuel for example, or vat etc etc.
I couldn't give a toss if it lost me friends I'm happy thank you very much, personally wouldn't have anything to do with people that did these things anyway so won't affect me.
tabetha