FFS another group out the RSOC
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I know that the RSOC is not thought of in high regard on this site but let me tell you all something, I've done things with other so called car clubs, tried my hardest to make those clubs a success and it was like trying to piss in a gale force wind and not get it on ya leg, hardly clubs at all tbh full of people who bitch and moan and don't want to do anything that's not on their own doorstep, I was doing everything on my own and in the end it wore me down,
I saw in the background that the Middx RSOC was falling down a slippery slope and I thought to myself let me put my efforts into this club, along with other members who are passionate about the club we've turned it around over the past year, I've always been a RSOC member and used to do everything with the Middx crew, Middx RSOC at one time was massive I don't think we will ever get it back up to that magnitude but fuck are we gonna try![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
I know the RSOC is not as big and does not have as many members as say 5-10 years ago but say what you want its still the biggest Ford RS car marque club in the country and in certain international areas too
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I saw in the background that the Middx RSOC was falling down a slippery slope and I thought to myself let me put my efforts into this club, along with other members who are passionate about the club we've turned it around over the past year, I've always been a RSOC member and used to do everything with the Middx crew, Middx RSOC at one time was massive I don't think we will ever get it back up to that magnitude but fuck are we gonna try
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I know the RSOC is not as big and does not have as many members as say 5-10 years ago but say what you want its still the biggest Ford RS car marque club in the country and in certain international areas too
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glad to here the middx club is on the up and up, good luck with it all mate
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The whole "banning" for a year is totally stupid, talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face ![Rolling Eyes](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif)
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In reality, even if no one from a group attended an AGM/EGM, if the 300+ members were paying membership fees, and displaying thier cars at the shows/ bringing mates along etc, where is the problem? If you don't turn up to the meetings then you just don't get your voice heard, and have to live with the decisions that are made, it does not detract from you being a part of the club.
Out of 300 members, 294 were probably unaware of the need for them to turn up, so just to play devils advocate, if 6 people were part of the comitee, then you have lost 294 loyal paying members due to 6 people who might have bigger issues than a poxy car club
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Sorry but the whole set-up is pathetic IMHO.
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In reality, even if no one from a group attended an AGM/EGM, if the 300+ members were paying membership fees, and displaying thier cars at the shows/ bringing mates along etc, where is the problem? If you don't turn up to the meetings then you just don't get your voice heard, and have to live with the decisions that are made, it does not detract from you being a part of the club.
Out of 300 members, 294 were probably unaware of the need for them to turn up, so just to play devils advocate, if 6 people were part of the comitee, then you have lost 294 loyal paying members due to 6 people who might have bigger issues than a poxy car club
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Sorry but the whole set-up is pathetic IMHO.
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Well THAT is the job of the commitee of each group to let their members know. I certainly do and would have had 5 or 6 of us that would have gone but myself and 1 other went as each group is limited to a maximum of 2 reps.
As stated by Paul the main commitee DO NOT make this decision is is voted upon by ALL the groups that are there on the day. So if anyone is to blame its the 39 groups that were there on the day.
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As stated by Paul the main commitee DO NOT make this decision is is voted upon by ALL the groups that are there on the day. So if anyone is to blame its the 39 groups that were there on the day.
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In reality are the REALLY 300 members of the Kent group who are FULLY PAID UP RSOC members????? I have probably 50 members of the Bedfordshire group but in reality 20 are paid members of which 10 will be at every meet and every show and out of the other 30 most come to monthly meets once in a blue moon.
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Totally agree, rules are rules; but theres one group who havent attended in 3 years and never been excluded, so seems a bit unfair on the ones who have been kicked out previously.
On the plus side, I'm sure Kent and the others will be back bigger and better next year.
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If you run an annual Regional Day, you MUST attend every year, not every 2 years.
On the plus side, I'm sure Kent and the others will be back bigger and better next year.
For the record:
If you run an annual Regional Day, you MUST attend every year, not every 2 years.
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What group would that be Stu?
I would be absoloutely sure, I had my facts right before I made any allegations!
I would be absoloutely sure, I had my facts right before I made any allegations!
Totally agree, rules are rules; but theres one group who havent attended in 3 years and never been excluded, so seems a bit unfair on the ones who have been kicked out previously.
On the plus side, I'm sure Kent and the others will be back bigger and better next year.
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If you run an annual Regional Day, you MUST attend every year, not every 2 years.
On the plus side, I'm sure Kent and the others will be back bigger and better next year.
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If you run an annual Regional Day, you MUST attend every year, not every 2 years.
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If my facts are wrong then the RSOC's agm minutes for '08 & '09 must be incorrect.
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Getting kicked out of the RSOC was the best thing to happen to Middlesex in recent years, the old committee didnt give a shit about the club anymore and it allowed new blood in and charlie and ran etc have done a good job of turning it around, it was a club that REALLY needed a boot up the arse,
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I know that the RSOC is not thought of in high regard on this site but let me tell you all something, I've done things with other so called car clubs, tried my hardest to make those clubs a success and it was like trying to piss in a gale force wind and not get it on ya leg, hardly clubs at all tbh full of people who bitch and moan and don't want to do anything that's not on their own doorstep, I was doing everything on my own and in the end it wore me down,
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On the Kent issue you guys should be proud of your region as you have a great database of members and proper car enthusiasts ,however you cant tell me not one person knew about this AGM ? .
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1-pd, Im sure that lots of members knew about the AGM, what they didnt know was that no one from the committee was going.
Just like with middlesex last year for that matter, im sure several members knew there was an AGM, but none knew that no one was going, if they had known that then charlie or someone would have gone.
Its the lack of communication thats the problem
Just like with middlesex last year for that matter, im sure several members knew there was an AGM, but none knew that no one was going, if they had known that then charlie or someone would have gone.
Its the lack of communication thats the problem
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I was a very active member of a small club for several years and loved it, and now attend shows with a very small group of people, I prefer it this way and so do many others out there.
I am mearly suggesting that rather than jump through whatever hoops they need to to be reintergrated into the RSOC that these people simply don't. I don't see why that is stupid or childish.
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1-pd, Im sure that lots of members knew about the AGM, what they didnt know was that no one from the committee was going.
Just like with middlesex last year for that matter, im sure several members knew there was an AGM, but none knew that no one was going, if they had known that then charlie or someone would have gone.
Its the lack of communication thats the problem
Just like with middlesex last year for that matter, im sure several members knew there was an AGM, but none knew that no one was going, if they had known that then charlie or someone would have gone.
Its the lack of communication thats the problem
Very true ,at least its only temporary as Im sure someone from Kent will be at the next one
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The RSOC is dying a slow death anyway, this doesn't help it's popularity. Always struck me as a strange club where people were anal about finis codes, trophies and plaques and general immaterial shite really.... ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
But I guess if that floats your boat, they may have a few spaces vacant!
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But I guess if that floats your boat, they may have a few spaces vacant!
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At the 2008 AGM, I was given a free 2009 RSOC Calendar as my then car was on the front cover.
My Local Chairman and I sat across from your 'Chairwoman' and her partner.
This was at the Whitehouse @ Kegworth.
Hope this helps.
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The RSOC is dying a slow death anyway, this doesn't help it's popularity. Always struck me as a strange club where people were anal about finis codes, trophies and plaques and general immaterial shite really.... ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
But I guess if that floats your boat, they may have a few spaces vacant!
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But I guess if that floats your boat, they may have a few spaces vacant!
all I want to do is attend shows, camping,bbq and beer, have big club meets also get as many of these cars out on the fly as possible because you don't see these cars on the road nowadays
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That is comical!
Having sat on a car club committee and having to adhere to rules to retain our motorsport affiliation, they are needed within reason. We have rules around the behaviour of members with our club stickers on their cars, only in as much as they must be law abiding.
We have a membership fee which entitles members to belong to a motorsport affiliated club, discounted events, a monthly meeting, quarterly newsletter and discounted clothing. Elections for all committee roles are once a year. Each year a one off special event is held, formal dinner/ball/fundraiser etc.
No politics, no restriction on cars, no outcasting for going to a different mechanic/tuner. Just a group of guys/girls who enjoy themselves and respect one another. It is that easy.
Having sat on a car club committee and having to adhere to rules to retain our motorsport affiliation, they are needed within reason. We have rules around the behaviour of members with our club stickers on their cars, only in as much as they must be law abiding.
We have a membership fee which entitles members to belong to a motorsport affiliated club, discounted events, a monthly meeting, quarterly newsletter and discounted clothing. Elections for all committee roles are once a year. Each year a one off special event is held, formal dinner/ball/fundraiser etc.
No politics, no restriction on cars, no outcasting for going to a different mechanic/tuner. Just a group of guys/girls who enjoy themselves and respect one another. It is that easy.
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Having never actually been an Rs owners member then maybe I'm not best placed to comment regarding the rules and regs of club membership etc,I'm assuming somebody knew about this and didn't pass the info on.I suppose they did the crime so donthe time as they say,bit childish to exclude an entire group but as said this won't happen again I'm sure.
My personal experience of Rs owners club meets sadly is not that good.way back in 97 I had my first s1 which was having problems(metering head in the end!!!) and I approached the club for advice.the then chairman was helpful to be fair yet the other members simply weren't interested,as said above,wanted to know about chassis numbers etc which I found a bit odd.
Anyway,the chairman invited me over his house as his son had an s1 and lent me the fuel pump relay off the car,which was very kind.it wasn't the problem but never mind,nice thing to do.
All of a sudden and bear in mind I've known this bloke 5 mins he starts complaining about another member of the rsoc,he this ,that ,the other etc.
Uncannily,said member turns up at the property,both start bitching a different member,again unconcerned that I'm sitting there,this guy could be someone I'm related to etc.
Then,said member they were both bitching at turns up,and they start on someone ELSE.
Dissapointed,I leave and decide not to join the rsoc,felt very much like school if I'm honest.
A few years down the line and several rs' later,my mate buys an escos,does a good bit of work to it and bumps into an rsoc member who,impressed with the car invites him to a mag featured power run at interpros rollers.
Up we go early Sunday morning,meet on the m4 and head off.the chairmans in front doing 50 up the fucking motorway so we pass him as we've been before to interpro,mobile phone starts going from another member,WTF are you doing?stay in convoy!!I respond that if we keep doing 50 well never fucking get there!!
Get to the venue(back in convoy) and some little cunt comes over mouthing,don't ever do that again or well throw you out of the club!!tell him to fuck off,little fucking scroat and grab some food.near enough nobodys talking to us as we dared overtake the chaiman,grow up you sad cunts.
Anyway,car goes on the rollers and makes a cracking power,all of a sudden everyone wants to be his friend as it was the best of the day,people start being decent to us,asking where he's had the work done etc which I found quite sad really and very childish.
I had a 2wd Saph and an rs2k powered escort cab at the time but had no interest in joining as it seemed a load of shit tbh.
I'm thinking of joining now as I've met a few members on here and through the business who seem really decent people so it could yet be an option.it seems they did a good show in the summer and I noticed them in a classic car show all having a good laugh etc so it could be time to try again.
My personal experience of Rs owners club meets sadly is not that good.way back in 97 I had my first s1 which was having problems(metering head in the end!!!) and I approached the club for advice.the then chairman was helpful to be fair yet the other members simply weren't interested,as said above,wanted to know about chassis numbers etc which I found a bit odd.
Anyway,the chairman invited me over his house as his son had an s1 and lent me the fuel pump relay off the car,which was very kind.it wasn't the problem but never mind,nice thing to do.
All of a sudden and bear in mind I've known this bloke 5 mins he starts complaining about another member of the rsoc,he this ,that ,the other etc.
Uncannily,said member turns up at the property,both start bitching a different member,again unconcerned that I'm sitting there,this guy could be someone I'm related to etc.
Then,said member they were both bitching at turns up,and they start on someone ELSE.
Dissapointed,I leave and decide not to join the rsoc,felt very much like school if I'm honest.
A few years down the line and several rs' later,my mate buys an escos,does a good bit of work to it and bumps into an rsoc member who,impressed with the car invites him to a mag featured power run at interpros rollers.
Up we go early Sunday morning,meet on the m4 and head off.the chairmans in front doing 50 up the fucking motorway so we pass him as we've been before to interpro,mobile phone starts going from another member,WTF are you doing?stay in convoy!!I respond that if we keep doing 50 well never fucking get there!!
Get to the venue(back in convoy) and some little cunt comes over mouthing,don't ever do that again or well throw you out of the club!!tell him to fuck off,little fucking scroat and grab some food.near enough nobodys talking to us as we dared overtake the chaiman,grow up you sad cunts.
Anyway,car goes on the rollers and makes a cracking power,all of a sudden everyone wants to be his friend as it was the best of the day,people start being decent to us,asking where he's had the work done etc which I found quite sad really and very childish.
I had a 2wd Saph and an rs2k powered escort cab at the time but had no interest in joining as it seemed a load of shit tbh.
I'm thinking of joining now as I've met a few members on here and through the business who seem really decent people so it could yet be an option.it seems they did a good show in the summer and I noticed them in a classic car show all having a good laugh etc so it could be time to try again.
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fella ^^,thats just your personal experience as there is good and bad in all clubs ,it simply comes down to choice, so if you want to in the RSOC you abide by their rules = simples , If not there are plenty of other smaller clubs out there but I can tell you the grass in NOT greener
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I haven't attended a meet for over a year as the RS has been off the road and my membership ran out last October and I didn't see the point in renewing it and not sure what to do now to be honest. I'd like to re-insure it with Boncaster as they have all my details and haven't got the time to keep ringing around for quotes
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The thing i find quite funny is that of those who slate the RSOC dont feel its worth paying to be a member etc , moan about this that and the other and say its for saddos , 95% of them you see at the shows and ND
Top and bottom line is that they are just tight arse fuckers who want to go to the events that the RSOC make possible but dont want to pay to keep the club going and make the shows possible
Top and bottom line is that they are just tight arse fuckers who want to go to the events that the RSOC make possible but dont want to pay to keep the club going and make the shows possible
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