Petrol Tanks
24-01-2005, 06:05 PM
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Petrol Tanks
XR3i (or petrol injected Mk4) and RS Turbo Petrol tanks. Can anyone confirm they are different for certain and what is different about them? 
24-01-2005, 07:41 PM
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Cool, so they both must have the pot inside, or "pump" probably what the tank place were on about. But they reckon the 86-89 tanks there wernt a pump inside but 89-90 there was 
Mine is an 89 anyway so will go for the later one
Mine is an 89 anyway so will go for the later one
24-01-2005, 07:44 PM
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On this site: http://www.sel-imperial.co.uk/Select...id=65&makeid=7
Two are listed....He quoted me the second one, guess that must be the one with the pump inside?
5909 Fuel Tank - Petrol Injection Models - Large Sender 86-89 £99.73 £49.87
7287 Fuel Tank - Petrol Injection Models - Large Sender 89-90 £115.77 £57.89
Two are listed....He quoted me the second one, guess that must be the one with the pump inside?
5909 Fuel Tank - Petrol Injection Models - Large Sender 86-89 £99.73 £49.87
7287 Fuel Tank - Petrol Injection Models - Large Sender 89-90 £115.77 £57.89
24-01-2005, 07:52 PM
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Not sure about escorts m8 but the sierra tank with the large sender hole(100mm)
is internal pump,the small sender hole tank(50mm)is external pump,gravity fed.
is internal pump,the small sender hole tank(50mm)is external pump,gravity fed.
24-01-2005, 07:56 PM
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Yer, they bth listed as large sender. He did say the later one was the internal jobbie. That will do then, just don't wanna get the wrong one and run into problems of fuel starvation 
And apart from opening up the tank how can u tell if one is fitted?
And apart from opening up the tank how can u tell if one is fitted?
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24-01-2005, 08:01 PM
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on Efi models the pump/sender was 1 unit, when they say in the tank its just screwed in by 60 degrees, thats your fuel pump/ sender.
earlier mfi cars had the external bosch pumps under spare wheel well, if ordering for RS Turbo you want the early type tank from 86 on (also does the mfi XR3i), if an Efi XR3i then the 89 on tank with large sender hole.
hth
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earlier mfi cars had the external bosch pumps under spare wheel well, if ordering for RS Turbo you want the early type tank from 86 on (also does the mfi XR3i), if an Efi XR3i then the 89 on tank with large sender hole.
hth
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24-01-2005, 08:06 PM
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Hi,
this is what I got emailed....
Now...to me that sounds like shit! I know my fuel pump is under the spare wheel well, I emailed him back asking if he ment swirl pot inside knew it wouldn't be pump...
Also...
They don't list a sender size, just "large sender" he did mention on the phone 5 1/2" so I better measure it...but then he was quoting me the 89-90 tank
Maybe the 86-89 is smaller sender
this is what I got emailed....
Good Afternoon,
The difference is the location of the pump
Up to 89 the pump is on the engine
89-90 pump is in the tank.
The difference is the location of the pump
Up to 89 the pump is on the engine
89-90 pump is in the tank.
I know my fuel pump is under the spare wheel well, I emailed him back asking if he ment swirl pot inside knew it wouldn't be pump...Also...
They don't list a sender size, just "large sender" he did mention on the phone 5 1/2" so I better measure it...but then he was quoting me the 89-90 tank
Maybe the 86-89 is smaller sender
24-01-2005, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by adamS2RST
Good Afternoon,
The difference is the location of the pump
Up to 89 the pump is on the engine
89-90 pump is in the tank.
The difference is the location of the pump
Up to 89 the pump is on the engine
89-90 pump is in the tank.
24-01-2005, 08:23 PM
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Yer I am guessing....
Tank
Sender?
Now, the whole thing across as you see is about 5" not really 5 1/2" I assume that this is the sender unit which tells the petrol guage the fuel level, I am going by a haynes and the tank looks different
Tank
Sender?
Now, the whole thing across as you see is about 5" not really 5 1/2" I assume that this is the sender unit which tells the petrol guage the fuel level, I am going by a haynes and the tank looks different
24-01-2005, 08:34 PM
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if you have an RS Turbo Mk4 order the 86-89 tank(small sender) even if your car is 1990-all RS Turbos (as far as i know anyway had pump under spare wheel well).
word of warning though-if ordering from sel before signing for delivery check it has swirl pot inside, we have a trade account with them and order quite a few tanks, quite a few of the pattern tanks havent got swirl pot.
hth
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word of warning though-if ordering from sel before signing for delivery check it has swirl pot inside, we have a trade account with them and order quite a few tanks, quite a few of the pattern tanks havent got swirl pot.
hth
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24-01-2005, 08:40 PM
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Tricky,
The car is an 89 G. It has the fuel pump under the spare wheel well and connects directly to the tank, and yes like u i thought all rs turbos were like this
I will order the early one then, my next question, how do u know if the swirl pot is inside, can you spot it through the holes?
The car is an 89 G. It has the fuel pump under the spare wheel well and connects directly to the tank, and yes like u i thought all rs turbos were like this
I will order the early one then, my next question, how do u know if the swirl pot is inside, can you spot it through the holes?
24-01-2005, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by adamS2RST
Tricky,
I will order the early one then, my next question, how do u know if the swirl pot is inside, can you spot it through the holes?
I will order the early one then, my next question, how do u know if the swirl pot is inside, can you spot it through the holes?
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24-01-2005, 08:47 PM
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pmsl, is that the only trouble it will have? wouldnt damage the engine then? 
They are bad enough when getting low for cutting out!
Surely the tanks come boxed tho, i cant stand there unwrapping it can i?!
They are bad enough when getting low for cutting out! Surely the tanks come boxed tho, i cant stand there unwrapping it can i?!
24-01-2005, 08:50 PM
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Yes ya can damage engine on full throttle as you will starve it of fuel on full boost
Your tank dont look too bad anyway adam why the new one? Have that blasted and powder coated
Your tank dont look too bad anyway adam why the new one? Have that blasted and powder coated
24-01-2005, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by adamS2RST
pmsl, is that the only trouble it will have? wouldnt damage the engine then? They are bad enough when getting low for cutting out!
Surely the tanks come boxed tho, i cant stand there unwrapping it can i?!
They are bad enough when getting low for cutting out! Surely the tanks come boxed tho, i cant stand there unwrapping it can i?!
if you get stuck, i'll match there price and do the delivery at £10.
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24-01-2005, 08:53 PM
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we check everything, its only in carboard box.
if you get stuck, i'll match there price and do the delivery at £10.
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if you get stuck, i'll match there price and do the delivery at £10.
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24-01-2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by adamS2RST
we check everything, its only in carboard box.
if you get stuck, i'll match there price and do the delivery at £10.
Tricky
if you get stuck, i'll match there price and do the delivery at £10.
Tricky
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24-01-2005, 08:59 PM
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and S2?
Lee - I wanna change it as all the clips round the top of it that hold the lines on it have crumbled away and whilst it is down and off....save trouble later i hate petrol leaks!
Lee - I wanna change it as all the clips round the top of it that hold the lines on it have crumbled away and whilst it is down and off....save trouble later i hate petrol leaks!
24-01-2005, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
TrickyDicky, where fook were u hiding when i needed one
i've done them at that price for about 12 months. 
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24-01-2005, 09:37 PM
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Tricky, have u dealt with SEL before? what are their returns policy like? Checking there site seems ok, may incure handling charge tho But tanks have lifetime guarantee apparently
Checking there site seems ok, may incure handling charge tho But tanks have lifetime guarantee apparently
24-01-2005, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
TrickyDicky, where fook were u hiding when i needed one
i've done them at that price for about 12 months. Tricky
25-01-2005, 09:26 AM
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OK,
Now I am really confused, (didn't realise they had pics on the website
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Here is my old tank....
On Website....
89 - 90 tank
86 - 89 tank
Now I know I don't wan't the 89 -90 tank as it has the fuel pump in it. but the outlet on the top of the tank for the 89 - 90 model is the same as my old tank and the outlet position of the 86 - 89 tank is not the same as mine (I am guessing that is the only difference outlet wise)
I think this outlet is where one of the fuel filler neck pipes connects on, now what do you suggest I do, will the different position 86 - 89 be ok to use? Won't order it till tomorrow now....
Now I am really confused, (didn't realise they had pics on the website
) Here is my old tank....
On Website....
89 - 90 tank
86 - 89 tank
Now I know I don't wan't the 89 -90 tank as it has the fuel pump in it. but the outlet on the top of the tank for the 89 - 90 model is the same as my old tank
and the outlet position of the 86 - 89 tank is not the same as mine (I am guessing that is the only difference outlet wise) I think this outlet is where one of the fuel filler neck pipes connects on, now what do you suggest I do, will the different position 86 - 89 be ok to use? Won't order it till tomorrow now....
25-01-2005, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by TrickyDicky
we do tanks. i'm doing Series 1 tanks at the moment at £59 posted.
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25-01-2005, 03:56 PM
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That's the thing Damo.....
I hadn't bothered looking inside it when I took it off, just though't i'd get a new one now it's off, but taking pics this morning and looking inside, it is like fooking new! thought it would all be full of shite when I drained it also, but It was so clean I put the petrol straight in my run about
I am gunna keep it, and rub it down and re paint it.
I hadn't bothered looking inside it when I took it off, just though't i'd get a new one now it's off, but taking pics this morning and looking inside, it is like fooking new! thought it would all be full of shite when I drained it also, but It was so clean I put the petrol straight in my run about
I am gunna keep it, and rub it down and re paint it.
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