What's the normal sentence for this crime? - reason for asking is someone i know has just been charged

 

depending on the juradiction
also background reports etc
any previous history etc
i would imagine anywhere between 1 - 10 yrs

 

maximum is life (tarif set by presiding judge)
don't know the minimum


edit found this...



Attempted murder
Title: Offences against the person
Offence: Attempted Murder
Legislation: Criminal Attempts Act 1981 section 4(1)
Commencement Date:
Mode of Trial: Indictable only
Statutory Limitations & Maximum Penalty: Life imprisonment
Sentencing Range: Serious specified violent offence
Aggravating & Mitigating Factors

• How close offender(s) came to committing murder
• Any actual violence
• More than one offender or victim
• Victim vulnerable or serving the public
• Hate crime - racial, religious, sexual orientation etc

Relevant Sentencing Guidelines (If Any)

N/A
Relevant Sentencing Case Law

R v Ford [2006] 1 Cr.App.R.(S.) 36

• It is appropriate to fix the sentence for attempted murder at a level such that the offender would in fact serve about half the minimum term that would have been set for the complete offence.
• Where enactment of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 would lead to a higher minimum term for murder, there should be a corresponding increase for attempted murder.
• Because provocation and diminished responsibility are not available as defences to attempted murder, comparison with manslaughter sentences would be more appropriate in cases where such defences would have succeeded had the charge been murder.

steve

 

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/ma...errerPath=home

 

oh
kidnap aswell
they will try and hammer for everything

 

I somehow doubt stabbing someone in the face and neck is going to go in his favour either!

Is he a mate, or just someone you know?

 

5 stretch

 

My cousin got 5 year for attempt murder he never stabbed anyone just punched punched a boy & the boy got a blood clot.

 

That shouldnt of been attempted murder though,and i think your charges are different up there too....
Brammers mate will get more than a 5,he might even get a ipp sentence witch is as good as life but imo id say a straight 8 yr and out in 4...


cheers danny

 

If he gets 8 he will have to do more than 4


2/3`s after 5


Unless that changes down south to

 

Agreed danny it shouldnt have been the lad ended up in a comma for 3 days with swelling in the brain! but if someone takes somoene hostage & stabbs them thats eveen worse i agree this fella will most likley get about 8 year

 

Wouldnt you hate to be in prison for attempted murder? Couldnt even finish the bloody job!!

 

To be honest he obviosly went with the intent or he wouldn't of been carrying a blade so sorry brammer i know his your mate but i hope they chuck the book at him, your a dad or soon to be and people like that with blades etc walking around worry me as soon my kids will be at the age when i can't be with them all the time.

You can all have a pop at me now.

Pete

 

I don't think anyone is going to have a pop at you mate. Most people will share your view. Like you say there was definite intent to cause harm.

 

+1 he's obviously fucked, gonna get 8 years at least imo. The best thing is for him to do is take it on the chin, get his head down and do the time.

 

Dunno, but got the ideal xmas pressie for him

 

what i make out is that he's attempted to kidnap someone, then, when that's failed, has stabbed him in the face

5 years for carrying with intent to use, but depending on how good his lawyer is, the other stuff might not be taken into consideration if it's just him having a ruck with some other fella

depends on what happens when it goes to court and if the judge is pissed off or not

it's not big, and certainly not clever

 

hes gonna get fucked! That much is clear!

 

Every sentence here is halfed mate unless its a life sentence or ipp..
The ipp is a life sentence really but with a recomended amount say a 5 year in this case then the guy would do 5 years before even going for parole and then probably being turned down untill they felt it safe to let him out..
Once let out he would then be on probation for life and any wrong foot and he would be back..
If hes been in any violent trouble before id say an ipp is on the cards with a reccy of around a 5 yr...


cheers danny

 

serious, attempted murder, kidnap, and stabbing in the face and neck, might get a 10 bid, out in 5 on good behaviour. cant see the judge being lenient in the slightest tbh with those type of offences.

 

I met someone the other day who got seven years for attempted murder.

Charlie

 

what was the argument about in the first place?

something trivial i bet....

 

probably facebook or something else equaly shit.

 

i very rarley use facewank, i just cant be arsed to let everyone know what im doing every 5 mins....

and i just get fucked off with the inane drivel most people put on there... not looked for a few weeks infact... lol

 

Raffles resident. Say no more really.

 

I will not consider him as a mate though lol.

 

Not an immediate mate, saw him every now and then

Pete i wouldn't have a pop at all your 100% right, i will be the same as you

It's quiet-ish now Chris

Adam is a pro Thai boxer - last time i saw him he was off to Thailand, so i was told his missus bunked up with someone else whilst he was away.

What i can't understand is why he had a knife, i can't see it being his style due to his ability to handle him self. As no other info has been released it could be a different story to who actually had the knife to start with, apparently his missus got stabbed too in a tussle so this could be how the other lad was stabbed.

All in all it's a bit of a shame as he's normally a good lad, well into his cossies which i actually don't know what's happened to

 

TIT

I live in Raffles whats your point? It's not like it used to be

 

you my friend are a COCK, do you actually know or have lived in Raffles

 

id say 10 years easy, neverv worth it when we forget ourselves and screw up our lives like this

stab above the neck is classed as attempted murder, think below the waist is GBH though or something stupid like that

still a shame, a old school mate i just found out is doing 15 years for armed robbery, aint seen him for years but still is sad,,, worse when i read it in a local paper where my sister lives as thats where it happened

shite news for you though mate

 

Boys boys chill out.

I worked their for 3 years just before the £9m re-development plan got underway in 2004 so i know what its like or used to be like.

I had my work van done over 9 times by theiving bag heads, threatened with bats, knives launched at us etc and we were only their as workman helping them out.

I still have a scar where a women went nuts on me when i asked he to sign my worksheet off. She stabbed me with fucking pen knife.

My work mate had a bud bottle smashed over his head because he knocked on the wrong door so yes i know all about raffles.

As said though this was 10 years ago and sure it will have changed now after the re development plan but i can only remember it from back then.

Never been round that way for years.

Can someone tell me if Scotby Cycles is still their or shut down??

I got my very 1st bike their when i was a kid and would like to get my sons first little bike from the same place if possible.

Regards

Chris

 

Seems a shame Chris as he sounds like a decent lad who has got caught up in something that any one of us would do if your mrs had bunked up with someone else.

He sounds like a handy lad too if he is a pro thai boxer so it could be the other fella who had the knife so it could be self defence maybe??

What was the outcome of the court case chris?

Cheers

Chris

 

A friend of mine was In on remand for, kidnapping, torture, tbh, attempted murder, and a couple of other things.
After 7 months waiting for a trial he got let out Scott free.
The bloke he did it to was needed on another more important case and they had to drop the case against my mate to be able to carry on with the other case.
So you never know, he could get lucky.

 

They dropped the case to sort another one out!!!!!yeah right,
didnt want to go as a witness then??-lol

 

Depends how important the other case was doesn't it.

 

Dunno..... but the guy who murdered my mother in law got life and was out in 12 years!!!!

 

Chris it was bad apparently, before my time living there though - alright now i suppose

Scotby cycles is still there in the same place opposite the Mcvities factory

 

When Chris bought his bike it would have been down the alley behind kc superbikes

 

If thats the gaff opposite McVities then yeh its still there.

 

i take it back then Mate