What isp to go with?
21-08-2010, 11:01 AM
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What isp to go with?
Ive always had major ball ache problems with BT and my home hub. I use my laptop wireless and i have my 2 xbox 360s also wireless.
The major problems ive been having with it is that when im on xbox live on my elite console, it randomly kicks me off then cant connect to xbox live. I purchased a new style 360 a few weeks ago and this is having issues also. Its fine hard wired in to the router, But as soon as i try and connect wireless it works for a wee while then comes up with an error saying ip address cant be obtained.
Its pissing me off a bit but ive had enough of BT. I came home from offshore once to find my hub with a red light on. 2 weeks later they fixed the problem that was at their end all along, after a lot of phone calls and having no net for 2 weeks without a refund im wanting away.
Long and short of it. I need to get someone better, will anyone be better? And cheaper. Im paying a fortune for it just now and i already have sky.
If i was to get sky am i still going to be going through BT??
Any info would be great as i need away from BT.
The major problems ive been having with it is that when im on xbox live on my elite console, it randomly kicks me off then cant connect to xbox live. I purchased a new style 360 a few weeks ago and this is having issues also. Its fine hard wired in to the router, But as soon as i try and connect wireless it works for a wee while then comes up with an error saying ip address cant be obtained.
Its pissing me off a bit but ive had enough of BT. I came home from offshore once to find my hub with a red light on. 2 weeks later they fixed the problem that was at their end all along, after a lot of phone calls and having no net for 2 weeks without a refund im wanting away.
Long and short of it. I need to get someone better, will anyone be better? And cheaper. Im paying a fortune for it just now and i already have sky.
If i was to get sky am i still going to be going through BT??
Any info would be great as i need away from BT.
21-08-2010, 11:16 AM
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Im sure i could danneth, im just wondering if its better to go through sky and get the whole lot from them, i dont like the virgin box, so im really only looking for Internet.
21-08-2010, 11:21 AM
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Virgin's net is amazing the best about by far, i have my internet with them and tv with sky, its a must if your into gaming as well 
low/stable ping, no downtime, no disconnecting etc
low/stable ping, no downtime, no disconnecting etc
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21-08-2010, 11:50 AM
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exactly why its fucking my gaming up, it usually goes up to 120 when searching for a game to play online, Is your fibre optic?
I wonder what i need to do to change to virgin?
Ill need to cancel my BT anyway, but do i still need to keep a BT line in to the flat? It does say on their site no need for a bt line. Hmm need to work it out and get switched over.
I wonder what i need to do to change to virgin?
Ill need to cancel my BT anyway, but do i still need to keep a BT line in to the flat? It does say on their site no need for a bt line. Hmm need to work it out and get switched over.
21-08-2010, 11:56 AM
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exactly why its fucking my gaming up, it usually goes up to 120 when searching for a game to play online, Is your fibre optic?
I wonder what i need to do to change to virgin?
Ill need to cancel my BT anyway, but do i still need to keep a BT line in to the flat? It does say on their site no need for a bt line. Hmm need to work it out and get switched over.
I wonder what i need to do to change to virgin?
Ill need to cancel my BT anyway, but do i still need to keep a BT line in to the flat? It does say on their site no need for a bt line. Hmm need to work it out and get switched over.
Yes virgin is fibre none of this shitty copper stuff
go on there site think you can do a postcode search to see if you can get it
21-08-2010, 01:19 PM
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If you can go Virgin, do. The net connections are so much better and the customer service (IMO) is much better.
If you can't get cable, then you're stuck with ADSL. The majority of them use BT's backbone, I think Sky has started installing its own kit into exchanges. If it was me, I'd be looking at the smaller ISP's for connectivity, someone like http://www.madasafish.com/ who have a very good reputation and have some good deals.
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If you can't get cable, then you're stuck with ADSL. The majority of them use BT's backbone, I think Sky has started installing its own kit into exchanges. If it was me, I'd be looking at the smaller ISP's for connectivity, someone like http://www.madasafish.com/ who have a very good reputation and have some good deals.
Cheers
Matt
21-08-2010, 02:43 PM
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Where do you mate, i'm a BT engineer and they have just started rolling out BT Firbe Broadband, There's only a small number of exchanges across the counrty that are live at the moment. If you go on the BT home page and search Infinity Broadband it'll tell you if and when your exchange is likly to be done.
I actually do the installs for the Firbe and there all around the 32Mb-37Mb mark with a ping of around 15 - 25 ms. Have you tried using ethernet power adaptors??? i've been to loads of ADSL faults where the customers saying it drops connect etc to wireless devices. Hard wired is so much more reliable, plus it's a faster connection.
It doesn't matter what service provider you the line is still a BT line, it's just the equipment at the exchange that is different. If you have any extensions try removing them and plugging 1 filter in with the Hub into the main socket (NTE5a). The more sockets and filters you have the slower the speed.
Ginger
I actually do the installs for the Firbe and there all around the 32Mb-37Mb mark with a ping of around 15 - 25 ms. Have you tried using ethernet power adaptors??? i've been to loads of ADSL faults where the customers saying it drops connect etc to wireless devices. Hard wired is so much more reliable, plus it's a faster connection.
It doesn't matter what service provider you the line is still a BT line, it's just the equipment at the exchange that is different. If you have any extensions try removing them and plugging 1 filter in with the Hub into the main socket (NTE5a). The more sockets and filters you have the slower the speed.
Ginger
21-08-2010, 02:44 PM
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Where do you mate, i'm a BT engineer and they have just started rolling out BT Firbe Broadband, There's only a small number of exchanges across the counrty that are live at the moment. If you go on the BT home page and search Infinity Broadband it'll tell you if and when your exchange is likly to be done.
I actually do the installs for the Firbe and there all around the 32Mb-37Mb mark with a ping of around 15 - 25 ms. Have you tried using ethernet power adaptors??? i've been to loads of ADSL faults where the customers saying it drops connect etc to wireless devices. Hard wired is so much more reliable, plus it's a faster connection.
It doesn't matter what service provider you the line is still a BT line, it's just the equipment at the exchange that is different. If you have any extensions try removing them and plugging 1 filter in with the Hub into the main socket (NTE5a). The more sockets and filters you have the slower the speed.
Ginger
I actually do the installs for the Firbe and there all around the 32Mb-37Mb mark with a ping of around 15 - 25 ms. Have you tried using ethernet power adaptors??? i've been to loads of ADSL faults where the customers saying it drops connect etc to wireless devices. Hard wired is so much more reliable, plus it's a faster connection.
It doesn't matter what service provider you the line is still a BT line, it's just the equipment at the exchange that is different. If you have any extensions try removing them and plugging 1 filter in with the Hub into the main socket (NTE5a). The more sockets and filters you have the slower the speed.
Ginger
good to see BT finally going fibre, what sort of speeds are they looking at over say the next two years???
21-08-2010, 03:25 PM
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tbh id never ever play online games wireless always hard wired, wireless causes alot probs wi connections and lag, been a gamer for 7 years or so now only on PC like but always hard wired
21-08-2010, 04:27 PM
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depends what games you play, 99% of them you wont notice it try playing cs on wireless and your recoil is crazy bad
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21-08-2010, 05:12 PM
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its why it got binned off after the first tourny it was used at and they went back to 1.6 
21-08-2010, 05:22 PM
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http://store.steampowered.com/stats/
a new game vs a 8/9 year old game and theres hardly anything in it, like i said they dropped 1.6 at the tournys when it first came out and the pro's ( who are paid to play ) whined like everyone else on how shit it was and it got dropped straight away and there back to playing 1.6 now 
21-08-2010, 08:34 PM
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ntl/virgin use thier own line from the house in to the street but use bt equipment, as most do in the exchange!
Ntl use optical, the rest use copper (bt optical is out soon, as you said).
and you fit this stuff for a living lol OMG!
PS:Ive been with ntl/virgin for the past 11 years now and have to say theres no one better out there now, at one point NTL(virgin) had shite customer service, now a days they are a lot lot better and get things sorted ASAP.
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21-08-2010, 09:06 PM
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im sure you have that the wrongway round??
ntl/virgin use thier own line from the house in to the street but use bt equipment, as most do in the exchange!
Ntl use optical, the rest use copper (bt optical is out soon, as you said).
and you fit this stuff for a living lol OMG!
PS:Ive been with ntl/virgin for the past 11 years now and have to say theres no one better out there now, at one point NTL(virgin) had shite customer service, now a days they are a lot lot better and get things sorted ASAP.
ntl/virgin use thier own line from the house in to the street but use bt equipment, as most do in the exchange!
Ntl use optical, the rest use copper (bt optical is out soon, as you said).
and you fit this stuff for a living lol OMG!
PS:Ive been with ntl/virgin for the past 11 years now and have to say theres no one better out there now, at one point NTL(virgin) had shite customer service, now a days they are a lot lot better and get things sorted ASAP.
21-08-2010, 09:48 PM
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Hmm thats not what he said, although i know what you said to be true,but the fact that he still does it for a living and couldnt explain it correctly?????
21-08-2010, 10:06 PM
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21-08-2010, 10:25 PM
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Its a known fact that 99.9% of BT know fook all about what they are doing 99.9% of the time
My next door neighbour used to work for BT along time a go in many different guieses and says exactly the same as what ive just said and hes been in Telecoms for ...27 years from when he used to commision exchanges (BT) to now where he works ATT
Chill dude lol
22-08-2010, 08:04 AM
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lol, fooking chill out dude.
Its a known fact that 99.9% of BT know fook all about what they are doing 99.9% of the time
My next door neighbour used to work for BT along time a go in many different guieses and says exactly the same as what ive just said and hes been in Telecoms for ...27 years from when he used to commision exchanges (BT) to now where he works ATT
Chill dude lol
Its a known fact that 99.9% of BT know fook all about what they are doing 99.9% of the time
My next door neighbour used to work for BT along time a go in many different guieses and says exactly the same as what ive just said and hes been in Telecoms for ...27 years from when he used to commision exchanges (BT) to now where he works ATT
Chill dude lol
Its really not...
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22-08-2010, 11:13 AM
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Too many posts.. I need a life!!
got Virgin 50mb here and id say if its available then go for it you wont regret it. The difference between the way Bt and Virgin are run etc is like night and day, plus if you want virgin can provide a phone line aswell
22-08-2010, 07:30 PM
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I just done a speed test, I'm on plusnet, but seriously considering changing to a better all in one package, I don't do games at all, so just compy phone etc.
Speed test was download 5664 kbps and upload 355 kbps, is this any good or is it time for a change ?
thanks
tabetha
Speed test was download 5664 kbps and upload 355 kbps, is this any good or is it time for a change ?
thanks
tabetha
22-08-2010, 07:35 PM
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I just done a speed test, I'm on plusnet, but seriously considering changing to a better all in one package, I don't do games at all, so just compy phone etc.
Speed test was download 5664 kbps and upload 355 kbps, is this any good or is it time for a change ?
thanks
tabetha
Speed test was download 5664 kbps and upload 355 kbps, is this any good or is it time for a change ?
thanks
tabetha
depends what package your on speed wise
23-08-2010, 07:57 AM
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I think I should be getting 8 meg, sick of the disconnections now, though I think that's more down to the wireless router possibly a thomson one lights are all over the place!!
tabetha
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