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Old 15-08-2010, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Pardeep
LOL Considering the knowledge Porkie does have on cars, he's also owned car that we can only dream of owning. So in all fairness, you haven't got anything to compare too and are just talking pure shite!
dont need to compare anything, ive got my own opinion and i dont give a shit so stick it
Old 15-08-2010, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wirralphil
Cunt of the week award winner.
and proud too
Old 15-08-2010, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JjCoDeX75
Hi Richie - yup! Still managed to leave it standard as well, which is nothing short of a miracle!!! Cant see that lasting much longer though hows life your end of the county?

All well thanks mate

Ali still has his GT3 to make me drool every time he brings it round

Whats the plans for yours ? ?
Old 15-08-2010, 11:11 PM
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i personally wouldnt be proud about it jon ross

basically you have just come on this thread with massive ford blinkers.

comparing a porsche to a cossie is just silly anyway you try and spin it.

for a start people who are now buying 911 turbos on this forum understand how further advanced they are compared to an old sierra with a twincam in it.

I would suggest you try another forum to spout your rubbish as you are doign yourself no favours.

and 222mph....very extreme power, 1200bhp i heard going around, rod do you know of any chasssis developments on it?
Old 15-08-2010, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Richie.
All well thanks mate

Ali still has his GT3 to make me drool every time he brings it round

Whats the plans for yours ? ?
Not a lot at the mo - just continuing to try to improve around the ring.

The wish list kinda stays the same - Trip to DMS for zorst and remap at some point, followed by X73 Suspension (Porsche mildly upgraded). Then continue to bash away at these pesky GT3s!!! (They really are rather irritatingly good around the track!)

We should catch up for beer at some point...

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Old 15-08-2010, 11:21 PM
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Jon ross im with you mate lol!!!!

Heres goes mine, 350bhp 390 lb/s 2wd saph.

against 911 turbo could have been 997 (473 bhp) cos just said turbo on back it was black to. 60mph to 130mph. In the porker there was 2, in mine i was alone.

He pulled 1 car length by the time i hit 130mph.

These porkers are 1600kg so 400kg more than the saph.

Porker with extra guy in, 1700kg. 294 bhp per tonne.
Saph 1240kg. 282 bhp per tonne.

I no wat everyone says bout power to weight an all that, and i no the porker is way better than any ford but, isent it mad how he only pulled 1 car length an wen u work it out, power to weight, there nowt in it.

Time 4 bed night all.

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Old 15-08-2010, 11:26 PM
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Jj I would look at fearnsport for a remap half the price of dms and the guys there realy know these cars.
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Originally Posted by jon_ross
ooohhh touchy!!! im not a prick im a cunt that loves winding you rich boys up!!! cossies are still alot more fun and alot cheaper and easyer to work on. i was working on a 911 once and found you gotta drop the engine to get to the last 2 spark plugs!!! (good design that one) even porsche said you gotta drop it
My favourite cossie ever, and probably one of your top ten is actually one that porkie owned and modified

You really are barking up the wrong tree trying to talk to him about cossies, he has been there and got the t-shirt well and truely, hell he even nearly lost his life in another thats probably in most of our top ten cars ever as well, martins
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Originally Posted by NEIL A
Jj I would look at fearnsport for a remap half the price of dms and the guys there realy know these cars.

Hi Neil - I must admit I would certainly consider fearnsport - they have a strong reputation! I guess I will do the rounds of the usual suspects nearer the time!


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Old 16-08-2010, 12:38 AM
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nice try, cossy dale yes, 911T (or probably 997T) definantely is out of your league, but I think you didn't feel any shame losing to it.

old family sedan vs new proper sports car with engine at the back
2.0 turbocharged vs water-cooled 3.6 twin-turbocharged

But put loads of cash into 2.0L cosworth and the porsche driver will be very embarrassed
Old 16-08-2010, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MOHAMMED
m8 go grays and give him a hard time next time
on a t35 against a 500bhp car?? i know greys can provide a lot of fuel but not that much!
Originally Posted by jon_ross
im a cunt that loves winding you rich boys up!!!
a poor cunt at that!! being a mechanic your going to be on a working class wage.... do you think porkie really gives a shit about people taking the piss cos hes got money?? really???
Old 16-08-2010, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
hahahah...

You CLEARLY know nothing about me or my history and passion and love for Cossies.

and you are talking UTTER UTTER UTTER UTTER shite.

awesome post mate!

well done. Its mongs like you that give Cossies a bad name!!!!

P.S.... 4 weeks ago MY OWN nearly standard YB engine made 467bhp!!!!! I've had a 600bhp YB engine as well so I know how good they are you prick!
Agree with everything else you've just said Porkie but 467 bhp doesn't sound very "near" to being standard lol.
Originally Posted by NEIL A
And that before you get on to the American tuned cars that are doing 230+ in the standing mile. I know someone over here that now has around 800 bhp out of his car with bolt on mods.
Facking hell that's seriously fast.
Old 16-08-2010, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by I-HATE-MINIS
Wrong..........first 911 Turbo was in mid 70s so only 35 years ago and they only had 260 bhp iirc ,so early ones not as quick as current 500bhp model ........surprisingly

august 1974. 260hp 253lbsft 0-60 in just over 5 secs and near 160mph 4 speed box not bad in 1974 i think

love these cars.the 911 turbo has evolved in to a true super car now days imo.
the new ones are real beasts but expensive to run. i still want a 1989 g50 930 turbo tbh,wanted one since i was a kid
Old 16-08-2010, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by jon_ross
listen to the rich boy eh, i think hes abit sore that were saying modded cossies can beat them, there only so much you can do to an engine and you can get as much power and touque out of a yb than you can out of a shite flat 6 esecailly if you spent 108k on one, as for speed anyone can bolt on a 7 speed box and bye bye small willy super car shit box, ha zee germans have failed again!
are you serious mate? lee knows exactly what a fast car is whether it be a ford or a ferrari.just cos he has money now doent mean he hasnt been in the "lowly cars" modifying.
you have to spend far too much to get near a good porsche and then the cossie has reliability issues and the porker dont!
the flat 6 is an awesome engine and has proved this by hardly changing since its birth.the whole package has hardly changed as it works!

take the blinkers off and have a look outside your little (rot)box.

i love cossies,i love porsches and tbh all fast cars because i appriciate what they are and why. there are far worse cars and far better cars than cossies,the same goes for porsches. its where it is in its particular placement
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Not standard ones there are not!

You are talking modified ones....

Modify the 911 and then start talking about FAST cars....

as you WELL know... the 9FF 996 Turbo CABRIOFUCKINGLET that did 222mph at Brunters.....

thats just STUPID fast. One of the only cars out there that makes yours look silly and no NOS needed on the Porsche either!

Calm down Lee , the question was had any Cossies the grunt to beat that standard car. It was not talking about modified Porsches or standard Cossies. Of course a Porsche with the same Power will beat a brick Sierra its called aerodynamics.
The ffs Porsches hold the 3 fastest times over 1.5miles in the UK they are fast beyond belief. Maybe by years end you will have a Cossie 5th on that list if we can beat 213.8mph .
Old 16-08-2010, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by m_nettleship
Jon ross im with you mate lol!!!!

Heres goes mine, 350bhp 390 lb/s 2wd saph.

against 911 turbo could have been 997 (473 bhp) cos just said turbo on back it was black to. 60mph to 130mph. In the porker there was 2, in mine i was alone.

He pulled 1 car length by the time i hit 130mph.

These porkers are 1600kg so 400kg more than the saph.

Porker with extra guy in, 1700kg. 294 bhp per tonne.
Saph 1240kg. 282 bhp per tonne.

I no wat everyone says bout power to weight an all that, and i no the porker is way better than any ford but, isent it mad how he only pulled 1 car length an wen u work it out, power to weight, there nowt in it.

Time 4 bed night all.
you have 2wd,lighter and the bhp per tonne is similar and you expect it to do what from 60-130? it pulled a car length already considering you were both rolling
i would imagine that gap would be alot bigger if you both went from a standing start the other difference is the 911 will carry on past 180 without breaking sweat while the cossie will realistically be topped at a true 160-165mph(not needle speed)
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Calm down Lee , the question was had any Cossies the grunt to beat that standard car. It was not talking about modified Porsches or standard Cossies. Of course a Porsche with the same Power will beat a brick Sierra its called aerodynamics.
The ffs Porsches hold the 3 fastest times over 1.5miles in the UK they are fast beyond belief. Maybe by years end you will have a Cossie 5th on that list if we can beat 213.8mph .
the thing i like about that 9ff,like your saff,is that they dont look anything mega special form the rest of its kind.no big kits or obvious mods to make it look fast.pretty much oe look from factory
Old 16-08-2010, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Porkie

and is now.... FOR SALE!
Old 16-08-2010, 08:10 AM
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Go on the Lee how much for the 996?
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Yeh they certainly shift! My mate has the 911 turbo and is running 420bhp, i love it! lol
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Originally Posted by gviliukas
nice try, cossy dale yes, 911T (or probably 997T) definantely is out of your league, but I think you didn't feel any shame losing to it.

old family sedan vs new proper sports car with engine at the back
2.0 turbocharged vs water-cooled 3.6 twin-turbocharged

But put loads of cash into 2.0L cosworth and the porsche driver will be very embarrassed
sorry but your sig cracks me up
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Originally Posted by Bullett
are you serious mate? lee knows exactly what a fast car is whether it be a ford or a ferrari.just cos he has money now doent mean he hasnt been in the "lowly cars" modifying.
Lees Sierra was in the 180+ club at Brunters, very few of those about also the fastest 4x4 Sierra ever tested.
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Don't be thinking a 911 turbo is a rich mans plaything anymore, most people running a serious spec on thier cossie ( trust me I know!) will have spent as much to get to that spec as a standard 996/911 costs now!! Also remember that a 911 turbo is 420bhp STANDARD!!! a simple chip/remap will give 500bhp, and do it for the next 100,000 miles.

I own 2x big spec cossies, and I have a strange feeling like quite a few ex cossie owners, a 911 turbo will be my next car. AND, I was a dedicated Porsche hater, until I had a play in one! Epic cars, and nothing in the price bracket that even comes close to one now.

Although if I could I would keep both cossies & have a 911 turbo!
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I know what you mean Will.

for the amount I sunk into my mk2 (that I never even heard running,. let alone drove!) before I sold it, I could have had one too. Just seems like such an obvious choice!
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I don't get this, on this thread people are saying well done for having a go and then on another thread on here where there has been a fatal crash, most people are having a go about what is essentially the same thing!

Weird!!!

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I'm the same as you Wil I had more money in my escos than I paid for my 996, if you look at how much it costs for a decent spec 500 bhp engine and running gear to keep it reliable.

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Originally Posted by the youth
I don't get this, on this thread people are saying well done for having a go and then on another thread on here where there has been a fatal crash, most people are having a go about what is essentially the same thing!

Weird!!!

Steve
We're making the assumption that this race mentioned with the 911 wasnt done in a 40mph limit!
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Originally Posted by Porkie
I know how good they are you prick!
Classic

And spot on if you ask me!
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Originally Posted by jon_ross
listen to the rich boy eh, i think hes abit sore that were saying modded cossies can beat them, there only so much you can do to an engine and you can get as much power and touque out of a yb than you can out of a shite flat 6 esecailly if you spent 108k on one.
Just had a chuckle at that . The ffs Porsche's are certainly over 1000bhp & probably capable of 1200bhp from a perfectly streetable engine. I have more Power than almost any street Cosworth & i can muster a mere 838bhp, even if i throw in a 200 shot of Nos i still cant beat them .
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
sorry but your sig cracks me up
I just looked at that aswell
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Originally Posted by Chip
We're making the assumption that this race mentioned with the 911 wasnt done in a 40mph limit!
So its not ok to race in a 40mph limit but its ok in a 70?

An unusual post from you
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Originally Posted by vroomtshh
So its not ok to race in a 40mph limit but its ok in a 70?

An unusual post from you
generally a 40mph will be in a more built up area than a 70mph so yeah i would say its far better in a 70
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Originally Posted by jon_ross
listen to the rich boy eh, i think hes abit sore that were saying modded cossies can beat them, there only so much you can do to an engine and you can get as much power and touque out of a yb than you can out of a shite flat 6 esecailly if you spent 108k on one, as for speed anyone can bolt on a 7 speed box and bye bye small willy super car shit box, ha zee germans have failed again!

Congratulations, You now look like the biggest twat there is!
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Originally Posted by Ebonycossie4x4
generally a 40mph will be in a more built up area than a 70mph so yeah i would say its far better in a 70
Generally yes, but not always. And from the other thread, people shouldn't ever speed.

I don;t have a problem with speeding (anywhere under the right circumstances).

I just found it strange that Chip posted that statement, after posting on the other thread. He comes across as a lot of things to a lot of people but he usually sticks to one side of the fence.
I just thought it highly unusual to post the way he did on the other thread, then come here and basically say its ok to speed as long as its not a 40mph limit
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Originally Posted by vroomtshh
So its not ok to race in a 40mph limit but its ok in a 70?

An unusual post from you
Yes in general I would say a 60-70mph limit is a safer place to race than a 30-40mph one

Not always of course, but mainly.

Still taking risks though, just smaller ones!
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Originally Posted by vroomtshh
Generally yes, but not always. And from the other thread, people shouldn't ever speed.

I don;t have a problem with speeding (anywhere under the right circumstances).

I just found it strange that Chip posted that statement, after posting on the other thread. He comes across as a lot of things to a lot of people but he usually sticks to one side of the fence.
I just thought it highly unusual to post the way he did on the other thread, then come here and basically say its ok to speed as long as its not a 40mph limit

I view the sort of racing that goes on at street racing venues (like the ones ive personally participated in, I am NOT an angel) is different to two people just happening across each other and giving it a brief go on an empty road which is how this thread comes across.

So its not that im on 2 sides of a fence, but merely that I see the two as different fences.
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Originally Posted by vroomtshh
So its not ok to race in a 40mph limit but its ok in a 70?

An unusual post from you

You can as they say 'race' only if one car is a lot slower than thy other so a winner is quickly found. Imagine two 800bhp cars racing on the road they would be a real problem very quickly with 180 comming up in a few seconds, always make me laugh these posts. If you want to compare cars go to an airfield & strap timing gear on them.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Yes in general I would say a 60-70mph limit is a safer place to race than a 30-40mph one

Not always of course, but mainly.

Still taking risks though, just smaller ones!

Agreed. Only problem is racing in a 60-70mph limit tends to be higher speeds than in a 40mph limit.

I wasnt actually arguing what you said. Just seemed a very strange post from you.
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Originally Posted by Bullett
you have 2wd,lighter and the bhp per tonne is similar and you expect it to do what from 60-130? it pulled a car length already considering you were both rolling
i would imagine that gap would be alot bigger if you both went from a standing start the other difference is the 911 will carry on past 180 without breaking sweat while the cossie will realistically be topped at a true 160-165mph(not needle speed)

wats ur point?

quoting a experience. Thats all hun!
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