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Old 11-07-2010, 01:33 PM
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searching abit on this engine, this was fitted on the ka as 1.3i Duratec OHV 1297 cc I4.

Should this engine fit easily in a mk4 escort with a 1.1 kent engine? do i need to weld new engine mounts, wiring etc. will it give decent mpg?

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Old 11-07-2010, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan_3
searching abit on this engine, this was fitted on the ka as 1.3i Duratec OHV 1297 cc I4.

Should this engine fit easily in a mk4 escort with a 1.1 kent engine? do i need to weld new engine mounts, wiring etc. will it give decent mpg?

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yes the engine will bolt up to the gearbox useing the standard gear box. they are gutless as fuck tho lol
Old 11-07-2010, 01:41 PM
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why the fuck would you bother with a 1.3?
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license tax, insurance fuel economy etc. its just a daily runner mate.

it is THAT slow??
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anyone have more opinions?
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??
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Originally Posted by Ryan_3
license tax, insurance fuel economy etc. its just a daily runner mate.

it is THAT slow??
then a moped would suit you better mate.
Old 12-07-2010, 05:27 PM
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I prefer a vehicle thankx..
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its been proven quite a lot of engines can be crow barred into that engine bay and if you dont mind a slightly bigger hike in costs and ballache then consider something like a Puma racing engine or at least something 1600 in size and you will see it transformed.

proper rockets when you have at least a 1600 to play with and they will outhandle a great number of performance cars with ease.
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point is mate, I want an economical engine to use daily, and with a bit more power than my 1.1! Im dont want to spend too much money, just something decent
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Originally Posted by Ryan_3
point is mate, I want an economical engine to use daily, and with a bit more power than my 1.1! Im dont want to spend too much money, just something decent
Fair enough mate just offering an option.as it stands if you can't move up to something like a 1600 then I seriously wouldn't bother.just learn to live with it
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Originally Posted by Ryan_3
point is mate, I want an economical engine to use daily, and with a bit more power than my 1.1! Im dont want to spend too much money, just something decent
What kind of fuel return are you getting from the 1.1 at the moment?

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approx 33 mpg
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sorry 35
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will have to calculate exactly the mpg, by filling the tank to full etc. but roughly im doing 35-38mpg
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lol at the tags, just shows theres lots of cowards on this site
Old 12-07-2010, 08:37 PM
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35-38 isnt too bad. what kind of roads are you commuting on tho? as that has a huge effect on mpg

the missus has managed 41.4mpg in her 1.8 20v petrol passat, but that was mainly motorway miles

its gonna be a ball ache wiring up the ohc KA engine thats labelled as the duratec tho, as they all have built in PATS i believe

get a 1.4 cvh and build that up with RST manifolds and turbo
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From a 1.1 to a 1.3 OHV, really not worth the time or the effort mate. Slow as shit in the ka's and will only be worse in the heavier escort. Continue saving your cash until you can afford something a bit better
Old 12-07-2010, 09:21 PM
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Hardly worth it, save your money and make the car look good and save for a better car.
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I used to get about 30-35mpg from my Efi Xr3i, obviously it's a 1.6 engine though, perhaps have a look at the costs involved for the conversion and then running costs..

As said above, no point in investing into a 1.3 really..

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The most straight forward and worth while conversion, IMO, would be a 1.6 cvh on a carb. You could retain your 4 speed gearbox but get a 5 speed in for better fuel consumption. You can do it in less than a day easily, even without much mechanical knowledge
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These are reliable engines which will go on forever if looked after properly, a bit corse perhaps, they provide low down torque, but as to your question if there is nothing wrong with the 1.1 I can't see the effot and expense in changing for 200CC extra displacement, in the real world there would be very little difference between the two. The 1.1 has around 53HP whereas the KA is 60HP.

The KA is EFI as well.

Martin
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Originally Posted by mk2 cossie
35-38 isnt too bad. what kind of roads are you commuting on tho? as that has a huge effect on mpg

the missus has managed 41.4mpg in her 1.8 20v petrol passat, but that was mainly motorway miles

its gonna be a ball ache wiring up the ohc KA engine thats labelled as the duratec tho, as they all have built in PATS i believe

get a 1.4 cvh and build that up with RST manifolds and turbo
well here we only have short roads so its everytime firt gear etc, or a hill!

Originally Posted by Rich170
From a 1.1 to a 1.3 OHV, really not worth the time or the effort mate. Slow as shit in the ka's and will only be worse in the heavier escort. Continue saving your cash until you can afford something a bit better
ure right about the weight mate. not worth the hassle

Originally Posted by mackers
Hardly worth it, save your money and make the car look good and save for a better car.
yes I want to make her abit better, have some ideas but seeing as its a 5 door, cant do much. maybe rs bumpers, some alloys and a respray in grey, like polaris.

Originally Posted by martysmartie
These are reliable engines which will go on forever if looked after properly, a bit corse perhaps, they provide low down torque, but as to your question if there is nothing wrong with the 1.1 I can't see the effot and expense in changing for 200CC extra displacement, in the real world there would be very little difference between the two. The 1.1 has around 53HP whereas the KA is 60HP.

The KA is EFI as well.

Martin
no theres nothing wrong with it actually, just need to sort a squeeking sound which i think is the alternator belt, and change a gasket from the thermostat. its 'only' done 64k kms, so not THAT much.


thankx for the replies peeps
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id fit a diesel engine ou of the escort van a turbo one pref, then run the fucker on red, wont get no cheaper than that, in monetry terms prob will work out 120 to the gallon lol
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Your engine would actually be a HCS (High Compression Swirl) unit. If you wanted to do something best bet would be change to bike carbs or something along those lines but you really won't gain alot.

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Originally Posted by billybigspuds
id fit a diesel engine ou of the escort van a turbo one pref, then run the fucker on red, wont get no cheaper than that, in monetry terms prob will work out 120 to the gallon lol
thinked about fitting one yeah, or a mondeo 1.8 tdi

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Your engine would actually be a HCS (High Compression Swirl) unit. If you wanted to do something best bet would be change to bike carbs or something along those lines but you really won't gain alot.

Martin

its a valencia engine mate. theyre were continued on the mk4
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Oh rite I guess it's an early Mk4 then?

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yeah mate its built in 1987 registered in 1988! its not in that bad nick tbh, just need some rust sorted and a respray> I am an apprentice in a body shop, maybe onedya lol thinking spraying it grey.
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