what happens if i remove lambda sensor ?
#1
just finding my feet
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what happens if i remove lambda sensor ?
ok random question
i recently changed my exhaust with decat and it didnt have bits for the lambda so i just left them off,,,,, car ran fine ( well as it used to)
now i have just changed gearbox,,,, i had to disconect the battery for it and now when i start the car it runs for a few seconds,,,,,, the just dies and if i tickle the throttle it cuts out quicker
wondering if i need to reconect up the lamdas or not or could it be another issue i have ???
take into account that it did run before with the lambda sensors in the boot but i never disconnected the battery when i changed the exhaust hence me asking
i recently changed my exhaust with decat and it didnt have bits for the lambda so i just left them off,,,,, car ran fine ( well as it used to)
now i have just changed gearbox,,,, i had to disconect the battery for it and now when i start the car it runs for a few seconds,,,,,, the just dies and if i tickle the throttle it cuts out quicker
wondering if i need to reconect up the lamdas or not or could it be another issue i have ???
take into account that it did run before with the lambda sensors in the boot but i never disconnected the battery when i changed the exhaust hence me asking
#7
competant bodger
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without the lambda your fuelling will always be incorrect and you risk running lean enough to melt the pistons or rich enough to cause bore wash, take the exhaust to someone like longlife or powerflow they should be able to weld a lambda boss into your exhaust so that you can refit it, having it disconnected will not cause your car to not run, i would say you have disturbed something whilst removing the gearbox or battery check all your connections are on plus make sure you have fitted your earth lead back on the box if it had one fitted
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#8
just finding my feet
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im gonna check all that, im just thinking of ideas at the min to save me back tracking
i just tried to start it tonight in the dark, im gonna add fuel, change the fuel filter and plugs and give it another go, just wanting ideas where to look if that makes sense
i just tried to start it tonight in the dark, im gonna add fuel, change the fuel filter and plugs and give it another go, just wanting ideas where to look if that makes sense
#9
Advanced PassionFord User
Edit: Just realised I left this on a cliff hanger! Just take your downpipe, decat section w/e to a local exhaust place and they should be able to weld in a new bung for you. You can run your car without an o2 sensor (afterall this is what happens when it is being mapped). But for decent fuel economy (helpfull when driving to Germany you could do with it). I can't see why it would stop the car from starting though as you would be running open loop on cold-starts.
Last edited by SiZT; 13-05-2010 at 11:20 PM.
#10
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[quote=SiZT;4901858]Wrong
no i aint mate while i have not a massive amount of experience with subaru's i have seen lamda failures cause melted pistons (and cats for that matter) on things like corsa's clio's and other badly made cars
no i aint mate while i have not a massive amount of experience with subaru's i have seen lamda failures cause melted pistons (and cats for that matter) on things like corsa's clio's and other badly made cars
Last edited by botters; 14-05-2010 at 01:33 AM.
#11
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botters,a narrowband lambda sensor is only used for cruise and idle conditions, it is completely ignored on load, so a faild lambda will not affect fueling under load (ie piston melting) conditions, just make the car run like a bag of shit
#12
just finding my feet
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cool, the closed loop dont work on it as its got a "mines" chipped ecu, i dont even get a check engine light on,,,,,,, that includes when i had a hole the size of a apple in the cat !!!!
now lets think of other things,,,,, oh and jim time table and nearest station to bromley as its been a while pmsl
now lets think of other things,,,,, oh and jim time table and nearest station to bromley as its been a while pmsl
#16
just finding my feet
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ok i checked everything, turns out i forgot to connect the maf sensor hose up to the inlet on the turbo,,,,, so the maf wasnt reading vacum i guess
connected back up and POOF its working again
cheers for your help guys :cheers:
and RC4, i did post on scooby net,,, i do it all the time but this site seems to answer and give me correct answers aswell with my clutch issue
it looks like i will be going to the ring,,,, downside it means i wont be borrowing vans and cars from work,,,, so back to 60 quid a week fuel bill
guess it wont be fixed for a few more days
connected back up and POOF its working again
cheers for your help guys :cheers:
and RC4, i did post on scooby net,,, i do it all the time but this site seems to answer and give me correct answers aswell with my clutch issue
it looks like i will be going to the ring,,,, downside it means i wont be borrowing vans and cars from work,,,, so back to 60 quid a week fuel bill
guess it wont be fixed for a few more days
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#20
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Have checked my info and its about the 3200rpm mark.
Although, as said will be needed for good idle mixture to keep smoothness and more than likely for the MOT emissions test,as this is done at idle.
Although, as said will be needed for good idle mixture to keep smoothness and more than likely for the MOT emissions test,as this is done at idle.
Last edited by st3v3; 15-05-2010 at 04:33 PM.
#21
just finding my feet
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it wasnt taken off it had pulled off when we jacked up the engine to tilt it and get the gearbox at a angle to get it on, never touched it hence i never checked it its only cause i was looking at plugs on sensors i noticed it
#22
[QUOTE=botters;4901896]
You are totally Wrong, with a capital W in fact, because the lambda sensor has fuck all to do with WOT operation.
But it must be a really cheap shit exhaust if it doesnt have a spot for teh lambda sensor to screw into.
Without the sensor, the car will just be very hard on fuel.
But it must be a really cheap shit exhaust if it doesnt have a spot for teh lambda sensor to screw into.
Without the sensor, the car will just be very hard on fuel.
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